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| 2000/10/24-25 [Computer/Companies/Ebay] UID:19550 Activity:nil |
10/24 What is the absolute cutoff time to leave a feedback for a user on
eBay? A stupid seller is refusing payment, eBay is not doing
anything about it, and if I leave a negative feedback right now
I will surely get one back. To protect myself I'd like to leave
a negative feedback a few hours before the cutoff so that he cannot
retaliate. But what is the cutoff time?
\_ http://pages.ebay.com/services/forum/feedback.html |
| 2000/10/24-25 [Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:19551 Activity:nil |
10/24 Can you hook up a regular keyboard AND mouse to a laptop?
Any good advice/links on laptops?
\_ USB
\_ If your laptop has only one PS/2 jack, you can get a Y-adapter
for it. I got mine at Frys for $8.99. You need to connect your
mouse and keyboard to the Y-adapter first, then connect the Y
adapter to your laptop. If you reverse the order your laptop
will not recognise the device.
\_ This depends on the laptop also. On the old Toshibas the
Y cable didn't work since there wasn't enough power to
drive the keyboard and mouse.
\_ If you have USB, the solution is easy...
\_ I do this all the time with my PowerBook G3. I plug the
keyboard into USB1 and the mouse into the keyboard and
my PSX-esque controller into USB2. If you have one of those
UBER-LAME PC laptops without USB, try the splitter mentioned
above or get a docking station (mini or otherwise), as docking
stations have both keyboard and mouse ports (usb and otherwise). |
| 2000/10/24 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:19552 Activity:nil |
10/23 on a Sun (solaris). if i use BASH and type grep i get gnu grep,
if i use [not BASH] i get the Uber-LAME grep that comes with
solaris. "which" indicates that they are the SAME grep. What
the hell is going on?
\_ Your fu is really weak, this is a $PATH problem.
\_ If your fu is so great why don't you explain WHY "which"
is leading me astray.
\_ Your problem is most likely related to "which"
screwing up when looking at $PATH (it screws up
because its a POS csh script). $PATH is set in
a shell's init scripts. Depending on your shell,
its value will be different. "which" is too stupid
to figure all this out and just gives you the lame
csh setting.
When using a Bourne shell (/bin/sh, /sbin/sh on
Solaris) or a Bourne-compatible shell (bash) use
"type" instead of "which" as God and Steve intended.
When using Korn shell, you should exec /bin/sh
and rm -f all instances of David Korn's greatest
mistake. If you insist on using a csh compatible
shell, please shoot yourself in the head or jump
in front of a car, or something to get yourself
removed from the gene pool.
\_ boy, can't everyone just get along, agree on
a friggin' standard so i don't have to be
annoyed by petty differences in execution
every time i use a new box. fer fuck's sake.
\_ There is a standard its called POSIX, barely
anyone uses it. The only shell standard
worth adhering to is Bourne Shell, as
concieved and created by the master in
tribute to one of the finest of languages
ALGOL.
Now about your GNU addition, perhaps you
should check yourself into the Betty Ford
clinic for recovering 31337 GNU/L1NUX
H@0XR5.
\_ I use tcsh because that is what the csua
gave me way back in 1992 and i'm too old
to change now.
\_ Put the following in your .cshrc (or
whatever you pagans use):
exec /bin/sh
One is never too old to renounce the
dark side.
\_ why doesn't bourne shell provide built-in
arithmetic? it really sucks when you're trying
to fix a system without /bin/expr..
\_ bc is usually available if expr isn't.
\_ but POSIX-sh does have it. And POSIX-sh is
basically ksh. So use ksh.
\_ What kind of a man recommends that David
Korn's most hateful rubbish ought to be
used?
\_ What's wrong with solaris grep (either /usr/bin or /usr/xpg4/bin)?
Are you addicted to all that non-standard GNU crap or something?
Damn kids and with thier 311T3 GNU/L1NUX B0X35.
\_ You misspelled 31337.
\_ S00RY.
\_ For starters solaris grep will not descend directory trees.
It is also lacking the -A and -B flags and others. -crebbs
\_ What's wrong with: find /dir -type f -name ... -exec grep {}
....
\_ where's the terminating semi?
\_ creates one grep per file, which is too much overhead.
Use xargs as God intended.
\_ Descending directory trees should not be a function
of grep, that would be stupid and inane and completely
opposed to the UNIX tools philosophy. Take some time
and read "Software Tools" and you will be enlightened.
Old jungle saying if you want to descend trees, use
find & xargs as the gods did in ages past:
find . -type f -print | xargs grep [options] [expr]
\_ With slight updating for correctness (it's what the
original authors would have wanted, had they wanted
their programs to actually work in the general case):
find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep [options] [expr]
\_ older versions of Solaris did not have -print0,
since the original poster didn't specify which
version of Solaris he was using, I had to leave
this out.
\_ is this considered poor style:
grep [options] [expr] `find . -type f -print`
\_ Yes, little grasshopper. If your redirect
results in more than MAXARGS matches, the
command will fail.
\_ follow up from -crebbs unintentionally deleted.
\_ Actually, I intentionally deleted it -crebbs
(it basically said: i'm lazy and i don't really
care about the "UNIX tools philosophy" i care
that grep -r [expr] is easier to type. Though
i certainly don't need to read some book to
get the point being made, regardless of if i
agree)
\_ Software Tools is a book by Kernigan & Plaugher
that explains what the purpose of a "tool"
should be. The purpose of grep is global
regular expression print, it prints out
matching lines from a *FILE* or list of
*FILES* It has nothing to do with *DIRECTORIES*.
\_ The purpose of a tool is whatever i happen
to want to use it for. The primary purpose
of grep is to find something i'm looking for
but don't know where it is. Sometimes that
means i don't know where in a file. sometimes
that means in a directory and sometimes that
means in a directory tree. If i'm just
matching lines in the way you are thinking
i'm probably not using grep i'm usin PERL.
If all i ever used grep for was in shell
scripting i might agree with you.
\_ The primary purpose of grep is not
as you suggest to "find" things
that you are looking for but don't
know where they are. The primary
purpose of grep is "global regular
expression print", it is supposed
to print matching lines from a FILE.
Its job is not to guess what the
linguistically lazy mean. Perhaps
we can enhance the next version of
grep to include a Dieana Troi mode
where it senses what you want to
match and does a big song and dance
to help your find it.
\_ bash and it's default grep sucks.
How comes it's not a mail client too?
Plus, not only should it recursively
grep directories, it should grep
my inbox and mail-folders and also
check my .tar .gz and .zip files
automatically. In fact, you should
use EMACS instead.
\_ if you need this crap, use awk.
\_ awk is for piping $2 to xargs kill -9
\_ grep is grep. If you need more use Perl.
\_ oh please, why use perl, if you need more use JAVA. A
reasonable person uses the quickest/easiest tool available
to get the job done.
\_ And that's Java? Dude, you're sick. |
| 2000/10/24 [Recreation/Food, Recreation/Food/Alcohol] UID:19553 Activity:nil |
10/23 Can somebody recommend a fancy vegetarian restaurant in the bay area?
I'm looking for something like Chez Pannese but 100% vegetarian.
Thanks.
\_ Long Life Vegi House in Berkeley (assuming it's still
there) is not quite as fancy as Chez Pannise and they also
serve seafood...but it's _damn_ good. --recovering vegan
\_ you know, all those poeple who like long life vegi house
must have been beaten as kids. The food is bland and
unispired, even the pure vegi dishes. It is true white boy
chinese food.
\_ I've observed that many "vegi" only restaurants serve
the most bland food on the planet and look at you as
if you are a grotesque sea monster from a black lagoon
on mars if you ask them for red pepper or hot sauce.
I find it frustrating to eat americanized "vegi" food.
- indian who is glad to have home cooking
\_ it's pretty hard to be a vegan epicurean...
\_ it's not very hard to be a fucking moron -pld
\_ Gosh that was a useful comment.
\_ case in point?
\_ Consider yourself invited Chez Moi. I'm not professionally
trained or anything but I'm not a bad cook and I love having
vegetarians for dinner. -seano
\_ You eat vegetarians for dinner! Damn I thought there
was a law against that.
\_ Actually, I prefer vegan meat; for breakfast and cold
cuts... but all vegetarians go well with a compliment of
asparagus bordelaise and a crisp sauvignon blanc. -seano
\_ the joke was funny until you explained it
\_ Interesting. Soda's own Jeffery Damlher.
\_ He didn't exclude women from his invite list....
\_ is he like Jeffrey Dahmer?
\_ and the nice smell of rotting food adds so much to the ambience
\_ I heard of a restaurant called Green's. Don't know if it still
exists or not. It might be in SF.
\_ Yes, Greens. Don't go anywhere else. It's in SF (Fort
Mason). Fleur De Lys is also reputed to have a good vegetarian
tasting menu according to Zagat. --dim
\_ Fleur de Lys is a pretty damn good restaurant
\_ Never been to Greens, but I have a copy of their cookbook,
VERY yummy food, but note, Greens has absolutely NOTHING
whatsoever to do with being healthy. A nice lean steak
is probably healthier than many of their dishes.
\_ Millenium - in the ground floor of some hotel in SF. (Almost vegan,
but has some dishes with cheese and/or honey.)
\_ millenium is for the hard core vegetarian or vegan. it rocks
if you hate meat. in the abigail hotel on mcallister near
van ness --chris
\_ What does hating meat have to do with begin vegetarian?
- vegetarian who does not hate meat, but rather choses
not to eat it.
\_ i meant if you hate meat, you'll like millenium. it's
almost all vegan, they have seitan, tofu galore...so if
you like the taste of meat, the meat substitutes won't
make you too happy. --chris
\_ I like the taste of meat and think meat substitutes
are disgusting. Any vegitarian who eats those things
should stop being stupid and just eat meat once
in a while. If you are gonna be vegi do it right and
eat stuff that isn't pretending. IT TASTES BETTER.
\_ just for reference, i eat vegi fake meat because
i like it, not because i hate meat or because i
want to replace it. in fact, i've never tasted
red meat before, unless you count the bologna i
accidentally ate once when i was little that made
me violently ill. -lila
\_ hey, kind of like those peas i choked on
that accidentally rolled next to my porterhouse
when i was 9...
\_ no, not really
\_ Okay, its obvious that my comment was misunderstood.
I'm a vegetarian who doesn't eat "meat" substitutes.
I've always had a vegetarian diet (indian), but I
don't hate meat and I'm not a member of PETA or
anything stupid like that. I think that one should
be free to choose to eat meat or not. There is no
point in heckling people over their choice.
\_ I don't think chris was saying vegetarians
explicitly "hate meat." i think she said you had
to be a vegetarian who hated meat to like
and really appreciate millenium
\_ saw a bumper sticker: "I Love Animals. They taste delicious"
\_ Another: "If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he
make them out of meat?"
\_ reminds me of the Far Side cartoons tofu gazelles while
the Lions looked on.
\_ Green's is a good suggestion. You may also want to try Joubet's
at the end of the N Judah line. Vegetarian French-South African
cusine. |
| 2000/10/24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:19554 Activity:nil |
10/23 Any online java tutorials?
\_ many...
\_ http://java.sun.com
\_ good online book at http://www.bruceeckel.com
\_ This book is absolutely awful. I wonder if Mr. Eckel
can even write a decent sized java program. |
| 2000/10/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:19555 Activity:high |
10/24 Gotta love people getting their trolling ass-panties all in a twist
about recursive directory-tree searches. Geez Louise!
\_ I like panties! |
| 2000/10/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:19556 Activity:high |
10/24 Vote:
User Friendly: ....
Dilbert: ..
Megatokyo: .
Crack-ho magzn: .
(yermom, that is)
Kevin and Kell (http://www.kevinandkell.com .
Blondie: .
Blondie's: .....
\_ fat slice >> blondies. |
| 2000/10/24-25 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:19557 Activity:moderate |
10/24 In tcsh, is there a difference between $path and $PATH?
\_ only in syntax/format - they automagically update each other
\_ one's in all cas
\_ one's in all caps
\_ one's in all caps __ and therefore more l337. |