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| 2000/10/18-19 [Finance/Investment, Academia/GradSchool] UID:19512 Activity:very high |
10/17 I'm a non-CS major and want to go to grad school in CS. Do grad
schools care what your major is? What kind of chances do I have (with
good grades etc.)?
\_ Yes and depends on school.
\_ I agree.
\_ I disagree.
\_ Are you serious?
\_ Expect to take a lot of undergraduate CS classes. In fact, you
might want to start already at some other (local? less
expensive?) school before applying.
\_ Talk to the graduate adminisistration folks and some profs at the
schools you'd like to attend. In many cases, attending classes
elsewhere first as suggested above can hurt you.
\_ Might not hurt your wallet. Depends on the situation.
Usually schools will want you to take remedial work with
them, but one has to question their motives at times. Taking
classes may not help but will *never* hurt in spite of the
scare tactics that Top Ten programs use.
\_ happens frequently, mostly w/ people who already have Math or
Physics degree. My former roomate, a former astro-physics Phd
candidate, dropped out of his Phd program got into a CS Phd
program back in 96. I'm not saying that anyone should give it
a try. It is for the selected few. If you don't have a good math
or technical background or don't have good grades, don't even
waste your time.
\_ Ok, so I am hoping for a really good program like Berkeley or MIT
or maybe CMU. Can anyone say if it is common here? (I'd be a
math major, so I think I'd have the background needed.)
--original poster
\_ Berkeley, MIT, Stanford, and CMU are the top 4 schools.
Washington, UCLA, Princeton, etc are second tier. Whether
or not you can get in depends on what you want to study
and how much effort you plan to invest. If you just want
a masters degree to boost your salary, then you don't need
one of the top tier schools. A master in systems from
Washington will do just as well. If you're serious about
getting a PhD, then you should first figure out what you
want to study, and it had better be something you already
know something about. Then you should figure out which
professors you want to work with at each school, and read
up on their current research. Then go talk to his/her
grad students to get the inside scoop and get a feel for
your chances at being accepted. This is just generic
advice about grad school. If you want to describe your
situation in more detail, I can expend with more free
advice.
\_ You need to do something really cool, or show solid time
investment and do something somewhat cool.
\_ oh by the way, anyone can get into a 3rd tier graduate school
like Santa Clara. So if prestige is not a big deal (e.g. if
you're not aiming for Berkeley or MIT) then go for it.
\_ what is considered 2nd tier?
\_ Santa Clerkeley
\_ UCLA, Princeton, Duke, for instance. Schools with a
developing program that's showing signs of hope but isn't
saturated enough with prestigious faculty.
\_ I would think 2nd tier are those ranked around
11-20. 3rd are those around 21-40. 4th, are places
like Santa Clara.
\_ don't go to santa clara. it's just a shit
school for rich assholes anyhow.
\_ it really shouldn't even be deemed a grad
school. just a masters degree purchase program
\_ What's wrong with being rich? Why does being
wealthy automagically make someone an asshole?
Is this one of those "too much time with bh"
communist things?
\_ Yea, I think it should be "rich dumbasses"
instead of "rich assholes".
\_ They got rich by being stupid? I'm
still waiting to hear the problem
with being rich and why the wealthy
are somehow flawed compared to the
poor.
\_ Santa Clara -> rich and stupid
because if you are poor, you
can't afford it and if you are
smart, you go to a better school.
As for why they are rich in the
first place: it's their dad
who is rich. As for why their
who is rich. As for why the
dad is rich and yet the kid is
stupid, there are two possbili-
ties: (1) genes work in funny
ways, (2) The dad got rich not
by being smart, but by being
an asshole (i.e. He is a rich
smart and an asshole (i.e.
asshole). If you are both
smart and an asshole (i.e. a
smart asshole), you get to be
really rich. eg. Billy Gates.
Got it now?
\_ I see. So this is all Santa
Clara specific? Glad you
have this all worked out.
\_ Huh? Wasn't Santa Clara
what it was about all
along?
\_ No.
\_ What about USCS, SJSU?
\_ What about UCSC, SJSU?
\_ UCSC's CS program seems to be showing signs of
hope -- at the very least, some of their faculty
aren't totally anonymous. Still doesn't qualify
as "2nd tier" to me, but it may get there soon
if they work on it. (This pertinent to grad
school only)
\_ uh, shit schools for poorer folks.
there's this one asshole at my company
from san jose state, he's a dumbass,
and my cousins went to sjsu. mind
you, they are not that dumb, just
strapped for cash. the school
you go to doesn't necessarily
determine how intelligent you are
when you leave...i mean, i left
cal, which is supposed to be a "good"
school, but i have all kinds of
pricks asking me "didn't you
already learn this in school" type
of questions at work, from place
to place. the best determiner
is mainly how much you push yourself.
\_ From your English and the questions those
'pricks' ask you, it doesn't sound like
you pushed yourself very hard, you lazy
fuck. I hope you get fired. You got
quite an attitude for someone who is
obviously dead weight. |
| 2000/10/18-20 [Recreation/Dating] UID:19513 Activity:high |
10/18 My company wants to have a recruiting event on campus, but we're
worried we'll look desperate if we have a raffle for a palm pilot
or a playstation 2, or something. What are most companies doing
these days that's not lame? --been out for a few years
\_ Good recruiters have a mix of cute (friendly-acting) girls, and
guys who can pull off back-slapping, I-was-there-I'm-your-friend
shows. Break down distrust, all that. Do it in a professional-
looking location, followed up by free drinks/food in a decent
bar or lounge you've rented. Especially for young, relatively
inexperienced tech types, there are really proven manipulation
techniques. -John
\_ cute asian girls please! - desparately seeking a date
\_ tough shit, white boy.
\_ I'm asian looking for an asian chick (perferably
one like they have on my favorite animes)
\_ Asian chicks? Keep em. sheesh.
|- I woud like 1 plz. Where can i line up ...? -ugly enginr
\_ aww man, bring on the stanford whitey cuties
instead (see above post)
get a bunch of luser who just want to win some free stuff.
\_ They aren't all that cute, and they are
high maintenance. Asian chicks can learn
to be low maintenance if you treat them
badly enough.
\_ WINNING STRATEGY: always get cute HR and marketting gals to
\_ i am a cynical grad student years from graduation who likes
to get free pens, trinkets, and pizza, and you will *never*
be able to distinguish me from a bright eyed, bushy tailed
senior cs major looking to work 80 hours a week. hahahahahaha!
hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!
recruit. Fuck this nice place nice people crap. Ugly desperate
engineers need chick. Period.
\_ Must be cute asian chicks. The traffic to our booth
increased considerably once our cute asian chicks from
hr/marketing showed up.
\_ Yeah and you want to work at a company with people so
stupid, they'd sign up thinking they'll get laid with one
or more of the hot chicks at the recruiting session.
\_ To this day I am impressed by JP Morgan because of the
attractive women in short skirts (who claimed to be real
employees and not recruiters per se) they flew out from NYC.
\_ Amen. Most Cal engineer's monetary needs = met. Sexual
needs = unmet. (I speak for myself mostly)
\_ Monetary needs = met -> sexual needs = met. You can purchase
high quality sex. It doesn't have to be a sleazy explicit
hooker either. You can date with your wallet.
\_ how do you date with your wallet? EXPLAIN.
\_ Look for gold diggers. Cal is full of them.
\_ I agree. Gold diggers are easy to come by. Just make
sure you don't fall in love (they won't make that mistake).
And in case you decided to get married, please create a
irrevokable trust and get a prenup. We have enough homeless
as it is.
\_ Too late for some CSUAers.... RIP.
\_ Trilogy threw a party at Blake's with free beer for minors. And
they're planning on getting a busload of people down to
Dave&Buster's next week. Be Like Them.
\_ What does Trilogy make goddamit?
\_ Folks in Austin call Trilogy 'Cult on a hill.' Trilogy is
evil. Think about how boring their products must be, and how
hard they must work new hires if they have such a large scale
geek courting campaign in place.
\_ I know two guys who went there straight out of school...
They said after the first six weeks, it isn't so bad...
And the first six weeks aren't more work than big
cs16[249] projects.
\_ uh ... free beer?
\_ yea. free beer. why?
\_ Hire female strippers and give lap dances
\_ yes, I agree
\_ You mean, make the strippers give lap dances.
\_ Be a lame company which does dumb and destructive things with
patents and face the Wrath of Nick outside the Woz.
\_ Things like what?
\_ RAMBUS
\_ What did Nick do to RAMBUS?
\_ Only a PP or PS2? Try raffling 2 or 3 laptops or Trips for Two
to Paris
\_ Go for TiVo's or ReplayTV's - no one needs them more than
CS students with evening midterms and all-night projects
in the labs.
\_ Why not explain that your workplace is relaxed, supportive, and
full of wonderful, interesting people? Smoke and mirrors will
only work if you want to hire bozos.
\_ Uh huh. Every place is just wonderful to work at.
\_ Not. Most startups are pretty shitty. So are most large
companies. If people knew what it was like to work at
say Cisco with its endless bickering, meetings, schedule
slips, shitty managers, crappy IS etc., they would probably
want to work somewhere else. - cisco alum
\_ 1. The question was sarcastic and rhetorical;
\_ work sucks no matter which way you make for most
of us, that's why it's called work.
2. I think you're confusing good lazy w/ bad lazy.
\_ Bring a few trinkets, pens, postit notes, keychains, lights with
the company logo and web site and give these out. When people
come to get the stuff, tell them about your company, what you do,
the kind of people who work there, etc. Explain why its a good
place to work and you will get good people, otherwise you will
get a bunch of lusers who just want to win some free stuff. |
| 2000/10/18-19 [Computer/Theory] UID:19514 Activity:very high |
10/18 Anyone here take any actuarial exams? Anyone know what its
like to be an actuary? I'm graduating with a applied math degree (CS)
next year and I hear actuary's make decent money.
\_ what does the CS in CSUA stand for?
\_ Crazy Shitheads
\_ Criminally Supercilious?
\_ Cum Suckers
\_ Cock suckers
\_ Cunt su... no, it can't be that.
\_ Computer Science
\_ It can't be that.
\_ Commuter Science
\_ Cognative Science
\_ or if you ever could spell: "Cognitive Science"
\_ Completely Silly
\_ Casual Sex
>- Cow Sex
\_ Cow Shit
\_ Creaky Sysadmins
\_ Cal & Stanford
\_ Clitoris Studs. |
| 2000/10/18-19 [Uncategorized] UID:19515 Activity:nil |
10/17 Congrats to ajani, That's a good name "Intractable.NET" |
| 2000/10/18-19 [Uncategorized] UID:19516 Activity:nil |
10/17 Somebody asked about this awhile ago-- how to find a user logged
in anywhere in soda. Read /usr/pub/gfinger.help from your
instructional accounts. |
| 2000/10/18 [Uncategorized] UID:19517 Activity:high |
10/17 _ We already loaded Dragonfly on the library network. You should
not concern yourself with these issues. Just leave it alone and
forget about it.
\_ Sorry, I couldn't resist baiting the elitist geek. -guilty |