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2000/10/3-4 [Computer/SW/Compilers] UID:19397 Activity:high
10/02   What's a good supplemental reading for the oh-so-boring
        Compilers, Principles, Techniques, and Tools, by Aho? I'm looking
        for a Compilers for Dummies equivalence.
        \_ "Compiling With Continuations", Andrew Appel.  -blojo
        \_ Compilers aren't for dummies.
           \_ Computers are for dummies, duh.  That's thhe whole point of
              the web, ebusiness, etc.
        \_ My girlfriend is using Programming Language Pragmatics by
           Michael L. Scott.  I flipped through it.  It seems much better
           than Aho.  It's not for dummies though.  Good reviews on Amazon
           too, if that means anything.
                \_ Thanks! Now I'm going to ace CS164!!!!!
                   BTW What's your gf's name?
                   \_ She is not in Berkeley, unfortunately.  Otherwise, I
                      would be more than happy to introduce her to you.
                \_ If you want to ace CS164, just date your TA.
           \_ Cool, a whole new series concept: "programming for girlfriends".
              \_ Instead of buying a Dummies book you could buy a Girlfriends
                 book. Wow!
                 \_ Don't laugh.  I regretted the day when I robbed the
                    cradle and got myself a pretty but nerdy cs student
                    girlfriend.  Don't do it if you don't want to go
                    through the whole darn CS curriculum all over again,
                    starting from implementing a string class.  Feels like
                    going through hell a second time.  Luckily, I have
                    finally reached the stage of helping her revise her
                    resume and graduate school statement.
                    \_ I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.
                       \_ I'm sure. I wnt to cry. How can *I* pick up a
                          cute female CS student that is smart enough
                          to actually graduate?
                    \_ WTF, I had to help my boyfriend through his undergrad
                       career, and when I TA'ed 164, the guys were just as
                       clueless as the girls.  In fact, due to the overall
                       M/F ratio, there are a lot more morons than moronettes.
                       Sounds to me like your girlfriend is trying hard
                       to feed your large ego to compensate for your small
                       penis.  Sign your posts you idiots, I'm going to teach
                       your girlfriend the secret 164 death grip.   -- alice
        \_ Use motd for serious + helpful info please. Humor is
           not allowed.                                 -tom
           \_ Hahaha!
           \_ tom doesn't use that many spaces.  I also don't think he
              uses '+' like that.
2000/10/3-4 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:19398 Activity:high
10/02   Anyone here using IPv6? I'm trying to set it up behind my NAT
        box at home, but I'm not sure how to go about doing it. I've
        got a tunnel to freenet6 from my NAT box, but I don't know
        how to config the other systems. Url or other pointers
        appreciated.
        \_ http://www.kame.net  I've set up IPv6, alternately IPSEC over IPv4,
           on FreeBSD with it.  Assuming they have raccoon (key mgt. daemon)
           finished by now, it works great.  Otherwise there are plenty of
           other IPSEC tools in the FreeBSD ports collection.  Kame is real
           good for tunneling v4 via v6, and ipf/ipnat work just fine with
           it.  -John
           \_ Thanks for the info. I got the freenet6 tunnel working from my
              nat box (OpenBSD) to the 6bone (at least ping6 seems to work),
              but now I want to setup my other machines with IPv6 addresses
              so that they can be on the 6bone as well. My reading of <DEAD>kame.net<DEAD>
              pages is that I need to get a subnet rather than a tunnel. Is this
              true? Who should I talk to in order to get a subnet?
                \_ No, the subnet is behind either of your kame boxes.  The
                   idea was to let you have ipv6 internal routing, and have
                   a network-to-network tunnel/VPN as opposed to a host-host
                   or host-network tunnel or VPN.  The idea here is that the
                   machine (firewall, routing PC) running kame 's internal
                   interface is your default gateway--to access a machine
                   on the subnet on the other side of the tunnel will then
                   be transparent for you, since the kame tunnel takes care
                   of the ipv6 transport via ipsec ESP.  As I gather, kame
                   also lets you connect to the 6bone, which is a bunch of
                   people also tunneling ipv6 via v4 (sort of an ipv6
                   internet on top of the internet.)  Mail me for more info.
                                                -John
                   \_ Uh, what is your email? finger -p john produces 32
                      matches. ---ranga
                        \_ JOHN GODDAMMIT AND I NEVER HAD TO DATE NERDY BUT
                           PRETTY CS CHICKS EXCEPT FOR INSANE ONES GODDAMMIT
                           AND WHY WOULD I SIGN MY POSTS JOHN IF MY EMAIL WERE
                           EMCSQUARED OR SOME OTHER BIZARRE CSUA FUCKWIT EMAIL
                           ADDRESS THAT HAS TO BE NAME-BASED LIKE "EMIL MARCEL
                           CRABOBBLE" AND REALLY CREATIVE SO AS NOT TO SCARE
                           AWAY ALL THE PRETTY BUT NERDY CS164 CHICKS WHO
                           WON'T BE DRIVING SAILBOATS BY 35 BUT STILL  CAN'T
                           READ THE GODDAMM FINGER MAN PAGE?  AAAAGH GODDAMMIT
                           COMMIES EVERY FUCKING WHERE.  Thank you.  Now
                           where is my loyal hunchbacked apprentice <fucker>?
                                                                -John -m
                           \_ Sorry if I have offended you. I did not want
                              to send the wrong person an email. There are
                              several people who sign thier actual names
                              rather than thier login name.
                      \_ -m, good sir
                         \_ Thanks.
2000/10/3-4 [Academia/StanfUrd] UID:19399 Activity:very high
10/02   Which came first (which then influences the other)?
        1 the term Stanfurd becomes popular
        2 freeway sign says Stanfurd
        I guess this is a chicken and the egg problem eh?
        \_ "Stanfurd" predates freeways & freeway signs
        \_ Isn't it called the farm?
        \_ "Stanfurd" also isn't popular except among morons.  -tom
           \_ It would really suck if you were named "Stanley Furd", wouldn't
                it.  -Stan
        \_ What about "Stanfraud"?
           \_ Making fun of someone's name is infantile.
              \_ Then what about "$tanford"?
2000/10/3-4 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:19400 Activity:high
10/02   Yes I did a 'man procmailex' and I still don't understand all the tags
        :0 ic
        :0 WiF
        :0 FuK
           ^^^ --- What are these? I guess c means copy. What about the rest?
        \_ That's why I use "filter" instead of procmail.
           PS: filter on soda needs to be upgraded.
                \_ filter is obsolete, insecure, and no longer maintained
           \_ I use slocal. Its pretty good.
        \_ man procmailrc.  It's got some (not all) of those explained.
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