9/30 Perhaps the liberals in the viewing audience can explain something
to me. Why is it that todays liberals (esp. democrats) have forsaken
the princples of the founding members of thier party? Consider the
following quote from Thomas Jefferson (a democrat for those who have
weak memories):
... a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from
injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate
their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take
from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of
good government ...
All we hear from democrats these days is that we need more government
with more spending and more regulation and more taxes and more control
over the lives of individual.
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\_ I'll ignore the fact that this is an obvious troll, but, perhaps
you missed the fact that the parties did a role-reversal.
Remember, Lincoln was a Republican. The Republican party today
looks suspiciously like a special interest group for aging white
folks.
\_ There are many republicans who still believe in the ideals that
Lincoln and Reagan set for our party. Not all of us agree with
loud mouth show-offs like Limbaugh and Gingrich. I believe
that the true spokesmen for the Republican party are men like
George Will, Tom Campbell and Thomas Soddel.
\_ Ja, die Republikaner sagen "LEBEN UND LEBEN LASSEN"
\_ Yeah, Jefferson also enslaved men and women. go figure.
\_ Jefferson founded the first Republican party in America.
The first three Republican presidents were all wealthy,
aristocratic Southern planters--Jefferson, Madison and Monroe
-- rich and privileged folks, much like today's Republicans.
Later, the Republican party split into the (1) Whig Party
(pro-expansionists/imperialists) and (2) Democratic-Republican
party (composed of diverse elements that emphasized local
and humanitarian concerns, states' rights, agrarian interests,
and democratic procedures). In keeping with the egalitarian spirit
of the times, that faction adopted the name Democratic Party.
In the mid 1800s, the Whigs eventually split up by joining
Democrats(pro-slavery) and Northern Republicans(anti-slavery).
This new Republican Party (which is as we know them) had a
presidential candidate called Abraham Lincoln who said:
"The legitimate object of government is to do for a
community of people whatever they need to have done,
but cannot do at all, or cannot do so well, for
themselves, in their separate and individual capacities."
Lincoln won the presidency without winning a single southern state.
Of course, later, in the 1960s, lots of southerners joined the
Republican Party because they feared the integrationist and
pro-civil-rights Democratic Party. So they really are the same.
Plus, FDR was a Democrat and he saved the country from
ruin during the Great Depression by using the power of
the government to assist down-and-out people and provide
regulation and stability so that economic prosperity
could flourish.
\_ FDR introduced social programs (i.e. the institution of
robbing the successful in favor of the mediocre and unsuccessful).
The insane pyramid scheme of Social Security which will plague
this country for many more years is FDR's legacy. The war
brought us out of the Great Depression, not FDR. Did you know,
btw, that FDR once remarked that all germans should be castrated
(after the war)? He was a big fan of civilian bombings also,
and he believed it was a crucial component of winning the war.
\_ Uh... FDR died before the end of WWII.
\_ And this is relevant to his views or his personality ...
how? Hitler technically died before the end of WWII also.
\_ Oh yeah, FDR is just like Hitler, huh?
\_ Contributing to two world wars does not make them favorites.
On his way to meet British Prime Minister Winston Churchill
in Quebec, FDR told reporters on August 26, 1944: "We have
got to be tough with Germany and I mean the German people
not just the Nazis. We either have to castrate the German
people or you have got to treat them in such a manner [so
that] they can't go on reproducing people who want to
continue the way they have in the past." |