Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2000:August:17 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2000/8/17-18 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:19019 Activity:very high
8/16   Anyone know where I can get a program that will show me the
       devices on a PCI bus on a Solaris system?
       \_ prtconf
          \_ This shows you only the devices detected at boot by
             open firmware. I'm looking for something that will
             probe the bus.
             \_ that, by definition, is what you are looking for.
                You are probably thinking one thing and writing another.
                prtconf -pv will show PCI devices, whether there is a driver
                installed for them or not.
                But there is also a DOS pciprobe tool somewheres
                \_ I'm working with Compact PCI, so we can hot swap in
                   cards. The of device tree (displayed by ptrconf) is
                   (AFAIK) built at boot time only and doesn't detect
                   cards that are hot swaped in and out.
                   \_ Nope, the device tree changes.  ddi_create_minor_node()
                      and ddi_remove_minor_node() can add and remove entries.
                      You should probably also be aware of devfsadm on Solaris
                      7 11/99 or later.
                      \_ Oh yeah. The key is to implement a _probe entrypoint,
                      \_ Does this apply to Solaris 2.6 as well? I can't get
                         the tree to change except when I manually change it
                         via ddi_{remove,create}_minor_node(). I know some
                         of this is solved in 7, but PHBs won't let us upgrade.
                         |_ Don't tell the PHB's you're upgrading and they
                            probably won't notice.
                            \_ Yeah, I tried that but the fscking t1 card
                               I'm stuck with ( has a really
                               stupid driver that doesn't work under 7.
                               \_ people who swear with fsck need to be slapped
                                  \_ fuck you tom
                                  \_ fsck you tom
                                  \_ f*ck you tom
       \_ is it probe-ide from PROM? --social science major
                                  \_ I wrote f*cking not fscking. Some geekboy
                                     keeps changing it.
                                \_ slapped is an odd way to spell "beaten
                                   till bloody, tied up, and then dumped off
                                   the nearest dam"
                                \_ Solaris 2.8.
        Please read _/
2000/8/17-18 [Computer/Networking] UID:19020 Activity:high
8/16    What's the best DSL service to get in Berkeley?
        \_ related note:  since there are all sorts of horror stories about
           \_ ass.
                \_ explain
                   \_ It was just vapor lock.
                   \_ ass
                      n 1: the fleshy part of the human body that you sit
                      on [syn: {buttocks}, {arse}, {butt}, {backside}, {bum},
                      {buns}, {can}, {fundament}, {hindquarters}, {hind end},
                      {keister}, {posterior}, {prat}, {rear}, {rear end},
                      {rump}, {stern}, {seat}, {tail}, {tail end}, {tooshie},
                      {tush}, {bottom}, {behind}, {derriere}, {fanny}]
           DSL in general, are there services that do not require that I
           sign a year-long agreement?  That way if they suck it won't cost
           me $$ to change provider?
           \_ Let me tell you a story.  GTE services my wire.  That means
              whichever ISP I go to for DSL, the DSL company will have to
              talk to GTE.  So I choose GTE as my ISP, since GTE is by
              default my line provider.  GTE has a 30-day money back
              guarantee.  I canceled in 10 days, got cable modem service,
              and have not paid anything to GTE for anything, except
              for my regular phone charges.
        \_ I like DNAI. I haven't had problems with it yet, and the
           customer service, when I've had to use it, is all right. -brg
        \_ firstworld
                    \_ It took over a week to get more IP's, so eventually
                       I installed debian and set up IP masq. It took two
                       more weeks after that to get them to point my domain
                       to my box. Other than that, the service is good, the
                       support guys (all guys) are friendly. Less Ass, More
                       \_ There are a few women in support at FirstWorld.
                          They were clued in as well. So far I haven't
                          had any problems with them (over 8 months now).
                          \_ I support women in IT, also, though hopefully
                             we can see more in top-tier pipelines.
                             \_ We had a few women (tech/managers) in IT/IS
                                at cisco. They were as good or better than
                                the men. I'm am not for or against women in
                                any job. I feel that the best person ought
                                to be hired for any given role.
                                \_ This has got to be the single most generic
                                   PC non-statement I have ever read.
                                   \_ Now that I re-read it, it sounds pretty
                                      dumb. What I meant to say was more like
                                      we had talented women in IT/IS at cisco,
                                      and they were generally better (more
                                      knowledgeable/nicer/faster) than the men.
                                      I'm all for getting women like that into
                                      IT field.
                                        \_ Who gives a damn?  I just want to
                                           work with/for and manage quality,
                                           talented people.  I don't care what
                                           their plumbing looks like.
                \_ firstworld is as expensive as PacBell ($79) while supplying
                   significantly less download BW:  608kb vs 1.5Mb.
                   \_ perhaps, but what good is the bandwidth if your line
                      is down for a couple of days at a time. PacBell also
                      has a shitty data backbone infrastructure, slow news
                      servers, spotty dns and CLUELESS support (even in the
                      noc). I'm not sure what service is $79, mine is only
                      $69 (was $49 but I upgraded to the faster one).
2000/8/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:19021 Activity:nil
8/16   [ tjb crap deleted ] - alum who doesn't care about tjb
2000/8/17-18 [Uncategorized] UID:19022 Activity:high
8/17    Is there a good place in/near Berkeley to go to get my monitor
        fixed?  It doesn't show red anymore.
        \_ Have you tried slapping it around a bit? This is a serious answer;
           often bitch-slapping a monitor on the side helps cure missing
           color. Use as much force as you would use to slap a human, maybe
           somewhat more.
           \_ Quiet Trevor.
        \_ try looking at the pins on the connector cable, sometimes missing
           colors are due to bent/missing pins.
           \_ It was just vapor lock.
        \_ it's very likely to be a problem with the cable and/or connectors.
           there are three wires that carry red/green/blue signals, and the
           red connection must be broken somehwere.  try wiggling the connector
           at both ends (monitor & pc) and make sure they're secure. if that
           doesn't help, try replacing the cable.
2000/8/17-19 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:19023 Activity:kinda low
8/17    Anybody on soda have more than one house?  Is the mortgage on the
        second house also tax-deductible?  I heard that mortgage interest
        deduction is lower for 2nd homes.  Can someone confirm?  Thanks.
        \_ It is less (as it's not a necessity to have a second home).  But
           you can get around this if you have enough equity in your first
           home.  Buy the second home for cash from a loan on your first home,
           then you are just extending the payments on your first home, and
           still only have one mortgage to pay.
        \_ If you intend to rent out the other place I don't think that you
           can get a mortgage deduction. The deduction only applies to your
           primary residence. Like the previous poster said, get a equity
           loan on your primary house and use the cash to buy the second one.
           That way you will have one paid off house and you will get 30%
           back on the interest that you pay for the higher loans. Also if
           you homestead the second property and/or put it in an estate it
           can't be accessed by creditors in case of bankrupcy. If things
           go south you will still have a place to live free and clear.
           \_ Well I don't have enough equity in the first house to do
              this.  Not yet at least. But I still want to cash out some
              more stock to buy the 2nd house for renting it out.  Do you
              have a lawyer or CPA do estate planning?  Or do you just read
              a book?  What book would you recommend?  I hate giving up
              control of my finances, but it get more complicated the more
              money I have.  Ugh...
              \_ CPAs, like any hired help, don't do anything without your
                 direction. They help you do what you want to do; go see one,
                 try to get a good reference. A good CPA is an invaluable
                 resource towards converting that stock into a productive
                 base you can grow on.
                 \_ I agree. A good CPA or estate/tax lawyer will help you
                    and give you decent advice but you have to set the
                    direction. The reason I know about some of this stuff
                    is that I've been investing since I graduated HS. When
                    I got to Cal my parents gave me enough to make it for
                    two yrs tops without working/investing so I gave myself
                    a crash course (necessity is the mother of invention).
                    \_ Wow, you had it so rough.  I got a job to support
                       myself for 4+ years.  Hunger is the mother of
                       \_ That was rough?  I turned down a grad school
                          admission in Palo Alto to get a job to support
                          myself and put my sister thru college (Haas School),
                          and she's paying out-of-state tuition for all four
                    is that I've been investing since I graduated HS.
2000/8/17 [Uncategorized] UID:19024 Activity:nil
8/17    nothing happens
2000/8/17 [Uncategorized] UID:19025 Activity:nil
8/17    Partha Banerjee, is there a reason why Indian people don't like sushi?
2000/8/17 [Uncategorized] UID:19026 Activity:nil
8/17    Informal Poll, how many csua'ers went to LinuxWorld?

        Results so far: 1
        Results not so far: 2
2000/8/17-21 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:19027 Activity:nil
8/17    To emacs gurus-- how do I force hilit colorization on the entire
        source code? It seems that if the source is big, it doesn't colorize.
2000/8/17 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:19028 Activity:nil
8/17    More (x)emacs question.  Currently my DEL and BACKSPACE keys are
        both mapped to do delete.  How do I map the BACKSPACE key to do
        backspace?(want to delete the char left to cursor rather than
        the one right to the cursor.
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