8.7     http://www.brumleve.com/BrownOrifice - and you thought
        java was useless - paolo

8/6     Why is it legal for magazine publishers to offer lower
        subscription price for new subscribers?  Can't renewal
        subscribers do anything about having to pay higher? (Besides
        the obvious, i.e., don't renew, start a new subsccription).
        \_ If you go through those ASUC offers for new subscriptions,
           and if the name/address matches with an existing
           subscription, they just add a year to your existing.

8/6     <DEAD>www.svmagazine.com/2000/week33/features/Story01.html<DEAD>

8/6l    [url without description deleted]

8/6     RIP.  Sir Alec Guinness a.k.a. Obi-Wan Kenobi.
        \_ I felt a disturbance in the force tonight. :(. as
         if millions of voices cried out in terror, and were suddenly
        silenced
        \_ Ok, who thought The Lavender Hill Mob was a better movie than SW?

8/6     Are there any east bay clubs which have Salsa dancing?  Which nights?
        \_ Mister E's on shattuck wed nights - paolo
           \_ They moved to Emeryville.  Any others?
              \_ Is E'ville not East Bay?  Is Ashkenaz on San Pablo still
                 around? How about UCB campus Ballroom Dancing?

8/6     Can someone settle an argument for me: what is Chelsea
        Clinton's college major? Proof would be nice... best I
        can get out of the search engines is "pre-med"...
        \_ http://www.usaweekend.com/99_issues/991205/991205whosnews.html
           says stuff about Stanford's concentration system - danh
        \_ The concentration looks like a "minor" of sorts...
           people still have majors according to the Stanford
           web site. She still has to chose...
           Doesn't anybody have a friend at Stanford that they
           can ask?
        \_ Does it matter?  She doesn't attend classes and gets straight
           A's.  Think about it.
        \_ does she let foreign dignataries 3x her age put their cocks
           in between her warm, wet and willing labia?  Maybe her professors?
           maybe she turns tricks?
                \_ how do you know that her pussy is warm and wet?  Maybe
                   she's a frigid bitch like her mom.
                   \_ i hope not. my boss said he'd double my salary if
                     i did her up the ass.
        \_ all i know is that she's looking more and more like her mother.

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        Months later, the public was let in on the joke. Naughton had
        agreed to give technical assistance, including writing software,
        to the FBI in exchange for a lighter sentence. Neither Naughton,
        the U.S. Attorney's office nor the FBI will comment on the
        nature of his work.
        \_ We'll find out the details this week.
        \_ moral of the story-- YOU ARE BEING WATCHED. Think twice before
           you post on motd, wall, email, or download porn. Everything is
           taken as literal, even in the so called internet fantasy world.
           \_ and dont forget to encrypt your pr0n
              \_ zbeny bs gur fgbel-- LBH NER ORVAT JNGPURQ. Guvax gjvpr
                 orsber lbh cbfg ba zbgq, jnyy, rznvy, be qbjaybnq cbea.
                 Rirelguvat vf gnxra nf yvgreny, rira va gur fb
                 pnyyrq vagrearg snagnfl jbeyq.
                 \_ naq qbag sbetrg gb rapelcg lbhe ce0a

        \_ Thank God I use my own encryption method to edit the motd.
        \_ I think this was all an elaborate plot by the FBI to get a
           young, extremely talented programmer to sign his life away on
           some classified government project. He was probably targetted
           because they saw that he was a super smart guy in an unstable
           marriage who visited sex channels on IRC.

8/6     How could downloading free pornography ever be considered illegal?
        It's not like you are paying for exploitation. Who's to say that,
        if it weren't so readily available, that you would somehow take
        part in nastiness to ensure its existence? And, even if you did,
        that nastiness would be the crime, not the downloading of free porn?

8/7     Want to set up my own "isp" for me - can anyone recommend a pkg
        that will  answer a 56K modem and provide me with a PPP link?
        \_ man pppd
           \_ wow, the standard $_ =~ s/how can i/man//g response.
              you could have also said man mgetty.  What are you a bot?
                \_ man bot
               \_ ok wise guy,  man mgetty too.

8/7     I have a Linux box.  postfix is pre-installed.  Should I bother
        with qmail?  Thanks.

8/7     A variation on the salary increase question from last week.  Which
        person is considered wealthier according to your standards.  I'll
        take stock options out of the picture, since both persons can have
        stock while making different salaries.
        Person A -- making 120K a year. Spending nearly all the money on
                    expensive restaurants, clothes, a BMW, fancy apartment,
                    etc.  Nearly 0 in savings.
        Person B -- making 70K a year.  Drives an old toyota, rents a house
                    with 3 other people, brings his own lunch.  Saves nearly
                    30K a year.
        \_ This question is flawed.
                \_ I agree.  The question is deeply flawed.  At best you could
                   calculate total worth at the end of each quarter/year and
                   say that B probably owns more than A and is therefore
                   wealthier but quality of life has unmeasurable value.
        \_ both are idiots.
        \_ Both are wealither than me.  I make $90K a year and I don't spend
           money on expensive restaurants (or hardly any restaurants), clothes,
           computers, AV equipments, trips or fancy car, and I only pay
           $2100K/mo on mortgage.  But I still save $0 because I have to give
           $1K/mo and all the money I made from stock options to my parents
           and they still wonder why I'm not saving any money!
           \_ Why do you give them money?  What's wrong with them?
              \_ Must be asian parents.
                 \_ Not all asian parents are like that. My parents
                    (indian) helped my buy my options. jj's parents
                    (chinese) let him freeload too.
        \_ Person A gets more pussy. Person B is more certain to have money
           when he's old, but he'll regret his boring life.
        \_ What about Person C:
           Person C -- making 80K a year. Drives pre-owned luxury car,
                       lives with parents, brings lunch that mom makes.
                       Has fast DSL/Cable line as only recurring expense.
                       Saves ~ 40K a year.
                       \_ Forgot, also has several has several hundred K
                          in options since he has the cash to buy them,
                          unlike A and B.
           \_ Wow, sounds like me.
           \_ And me. Its an economical lifestyle. I'll eventually become
              a millionare.
        \_ Person D -- wealthy in spirit and rich in life.
        \_ This is a trollish lifestyle question, not a salary increase
           question.  My lifestyle has improved from 70k --> 120k but not
           the way you have it.  I don't throw all my money away but I spend
           more now than I did to improve my quality of life.  I also save.
           \_ The question is "who is wealthier".  Not who has better lifestyle
              Lifestyle is highly subjective.  Does bill gates have a better
              lifestyle than Mother Theresa?  More money != better lifestyle.
              Wealth, however, is an absolute measure of money.  Just because
              you make money doesn't mean that you have more.  I'd have to
              say that person B is wealthier for the simple reason that he
              has more money in the bank than person A at the end of every
              year.
        \_ Person C gets no pussy, does he.  Infact, person C probably turned
           to computers as "his olnly friend" when the big bad bullies of
           jr high took his lunchmoney.  This was infuriated later when he
           tried to ask a girl out in high school and she laughed in his face
           awww, poor nerd boy.  poor poor nerd boy.
           \_ The "poor nerd boy" is laughing all the way to the bank.
        \_ Thousands ain't gonna make you rich.  You are lapping at the scraps
           that business folks are throwing at you.  Only relax when you
           can measure your net worth, and holdings and have to use floats
           - paolo
                a career.
             \_ No but options are. By living at home you can afford to max
                out your 401K and your ESPP and buy all your vested options
                which will put you into the big leagues over the course of
                a career. Yes you have no woman, but you $'s. $'s are forever.
                You can use $'s to get women at any age. 40 yr old multi-
                millionare nerd boys can get more play than 24 year old
                BMW boy.
           \_ cunt
           \_ i measure my net worth in octal, i must be poor. you moron.
              \_ no, you're just a smart ass geek.
           \_ decimals: 0.00002
        \_ person A and B are cunts.  In fact so is person C.  That's what C
           stands for.
        \_ I claim that paolo authored this entire motd entry, in a fit
           of jealous rage against kinney.

8/7     http://lumine.net/engrish
        \_ biology-- engrish is sexy in Japan. A proper Engrish will open
           door to Japanese Chicks. A poor Engrish will close doors on you.
        \_ Hmm, I wonder if there's a similar web site in Japan making fun
           of people like me who try to learn Japanese.
           \_ Learning japanese so you can watch the import anime
                 \_ cunt
              without waiting for the fansubs are you?
              \_ This sounds like jj.

8/7     Someone please interpret last night's X-files for me. Thanks.
        \_ the devil cannot be killed (thats what he said to the pastor,
           right?).  but the devil was shot to death by skully.  and
           she also 'claimed' she had no intention of doing so.  therefore
           skully is the devil.  youre welcome.  and if this doesnt make
           sense, then dont worry about it.  go outside and do something
           other than watching tv.
        \_ well, think of large hairy labia engulfing you and spitting up
           warm pussy juice into the streets of LA-wannabee-vancouver
        \_ biology-- a devil is in everyone and it wants to fuck
           \_ I believe that is the ID in everyone and it wants to
              kill and f*ck.

8/7     Does anyone have any experience purchasing from http://cardirect.com?
        \_ Yes.
        \_ cunt.
        \_ A friend of mine bought her car via http://carsdirect.com -- she got
           a great deal (cheaper than the dealership), and picked her car
           up the very next day at the closest neighborhood dealership.
           She said it was great, she didn't have to deal with them trying to
           "upsell" her (they told her they're strictly forbidden to do so
           on carsdirect cars) -- they gave her the keys, and she was out
           of the dealership with her brand new car in 15 minutes. --chris
           \_ go to LINUXBIKEdirect.  they wont provide any suful services,
           and they will make yoiu read a little red book and will
           smesll bad, but they wont make you pay a dime
           \_ Thanks.

8/7     I've noticed at work that immigrants (chinese & indian mostly) tend
        to bring their own lunch while natives (all races) tend to buy lunch/
        eat out.  The only natives bringing their own lunch are the
        older generation that grew up poor.  Is frugality something that get
        lost after one genration?  -curious
        \_ It isn't about frugality.
        \_ yes. -immigrant
        \_ It could be that immigrants prefer authentic home cooking.
           \_ not predominantly. -immigrant
           \_ some indians do. -son of immigrants from india
        \_ I just visited the main distribution center in the south (Memphis,
           TN) of a retail company (not computer related).  Everyone there,
           young or old, brings their own lunch, even thought there are
           restaurants within minutes drive.  Cost of living is much lower
           than here.  There are virtually no immigrants in that city.  -- yuen
           \_ then there're the younger natives with tight budgets.
              \_ Check out the tight budget on that one.
        \_ maybe the immigrants prefer to eat white women?
        \_ biology -- because you whities are horney and wanna meet new
           people to fuck.

8/7     Can somebody point me to a study done on the demographics
        of people surfing the web?  And what sites are popular for each group?
        Thanks.
        \_ biology -- most are lonely white male seeking for SWF or SAF
        \_ Yes.  I can.

8/7     Where is a cheap place to get APS film developed and get a
        PhotoCD too? Does costco do photocds? [motd formatting God was here]
        \_ Just a sidenote: make sure you do get PhotoCD and not PictureCD,
           which some places only offer. My $250 Epson scanner produces
           better quality images than PictureCD (I've done side-by-side
           comparisons)
        \_ PhotoCD is nearly gone.  Picture CD will get you 1500x800 rez
           images for APS.  Quality is decent, you'd mostly want it as a
           time saver over scanning yourself.
        \_ ugh, biology can't answer this one
        \_ biology -- keeping memories of the past on cd as the mind will
           deteriorate faster over time.  Using a tool to aid the body.