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2000/8/3-2003/2/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:18853 Activity:nil 86%like:10003 67%like:19764 |
**/** Mail staff for -administrative- questions. For assistance, mail help. See also: /csua/pub/jobs & /csua/pub/housing & /csua/pub/recruiting Regularly scheduled politburo meetings are 5-6pm, 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month in the CS Undergraduate Lounge in 337 Soda Hall. --Jon The next CSUA meeting, 21 Nov 2000, is a GENERAL MEETING. -lye The uncensored messages below this line may not reflect opinions of the CSUA. |
2000/8/3-2001/4/6 [Uncategorized] UID:18854 Activity:nil |
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2000/8/3 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:18855 Activity:nil |
8/2 http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/FredMoody/moody.html \_ yeah, that's why I run openbsd - paolo \_ Me too but that isn't why the guy is wrong. \_ I'm running FreeBSD instead of OpenBSD because Free has a native jdk. I know its not as secure, but I gotta have servlets. \_ By the logic used in the article, OpenBSD sucks because he'd add together all the BSD OS'es to get a "total BSD count" which then applies to all BSD's. (His "total Linux count" is Redhat + Debian + SuSE + ..., ignoring that they all share code so he's just counted the same bug 5 times.) \_ openbsd notwithstanding, this guy is a moron. perhaps time-to-patch might be a teeeny issue? or perhaps calculate damage from 99.99% of the viruses that have ever existed that were solely due to M$ OS bad design and compare with negligible losses from linux holes? \_ The linux bug count simply means that exploits are found sooner and more often leading to an overall more secure system. I bet that a well admin'ed linux machine would be close to unbreakable, whereas an M$ machine no matter how well admin'ed would have as many holes as swiss cheese. \_ MS machines don't have shell access. It's the e-mail and VBScript and the address book and the hard drive trashing yada yada yada. \_ You are wrong. Worse than wrong. MS has the cmd.exe or http://command.com (depending on 95/98 or nt/2k). If you can break an MS box enough to be able to "execute arbitrary code and commands", then the easiest thing to do is exec the command interpreter and make it work for you. All sorts of commands built right in with zero/near-zero security in one easy package. What you might have meant is that "MS machines don't have remote shell access". This is also untrue. Go read up on the Eeye hole(s). People, if you're going to talk with authority about something, at least try to make some minimal attempt to talk with authority about something you _know_ about as opposed to something you _read_ about once on the net. Don't babble rumors. Get the facts. As far as this article goes, this is just a ad banner revenue generator. I suggest not bothering. It's flame bait. \_ Your argument is overstated. You focus in excessively on the technical details in your argument, that you neglect the effective truths. That is, http://command.com "shell access" is not appealing to the script kiddies who squeal with joy obtaining UNIX root access. There are things like BO, but when it comes down to it, http://command.com and executing arbitrary code and commands is not the same as multi-user shell access. I already know about http://command.com, buffer over-runs, and GUIs to http://command.com ... but it's not shell access. \_ Really? Getting http://comand.com access doesn't allow you to execute and install arbitrary code? \_ When all the script kiddies are talking about how great their Windows NT slaves are (as opposed to FTP juarez stores), then I'll begin to take you seriously. But yes, I agree that the technology is there to get effective shell access by hacking through Windows security and installing a nice UI. And next time please restrain yourself. \_ This guy is a dip. He must have some nostalgia for the IBM vs. Apple platform wars. |
2000/8/3-4 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:18856 Activity:nil |
8/2 What are the flags to get PERL to tell me what modules are installed? Do i have to recompile PERL in order to user a PM like GD.pm or can i just put that .pm file where it is looking for it? \_ perl -e 'foreach (@INC) { print "$_\n"; }' With perl5, you can use "perl -V" to get this info and more. No, you don't need to recompile perl. Thus the term "module." No, you don't need to recompile perl. Thus the term "module." -alexf |
2000/8/3-4 [Reference/Military, Computer/Theory] UID:18857 Activity:nil |
8/2 http://www.faisal.com/geek/guns.html features jordan hubbard, while still at berkeley. |
2000/8/3 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:18858 Activity:nil |
8/3 I just read the tjb thread on http://ucb.org.csua. It would be fun to get this guy a CSUA membership and let him post on the motd and wall. We need some new clowns in the CSUA. The motd and wall has been quite boring since we kicked out a couple of fools. \_ This, too, could be yours !! Boredcast Message from 'tjb_real': Tue Jan 2 13:07:08 2001 Miss May 2000 gave me a blow job. Get off my dick. \_ But I am Miss May. \_ We should make Miss May an honorary member. \_ Miss May can have as much as she wants of *my* honorary member \_ i talked to miss may a couple of months ago. she has no idea who trevor is. \_ people rarely do. \_ that's why he carries the american express card. \_ If you were that drunk would you admit or remember what you did or said? I think I slept with Trevor once too but I can't recall the entire evening. Just some vague sense of dissatisfaction. \_ I could satisfy you. Are you an anime chick? |
2000/8/3-4 [Computer/Networking] UID:18859 Activity:nil |
8/2 anyone know of DSL w/ static ip in fremont? \_ firstworld still gives out static IP. You may need to ask them for it, but there is no extra charge. \_ still $90 is steep \_ Its $69 for 600/384 in the south bay. \_ http://speakeasy.net -chiapet |
2000/8/3 [Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:18860 Activity:nil 50%like:18375 |
8/2 What is the emacs equivalent of the j command in vi? \_ C-n \_ Sorry I ment J (join this line and the previous). \_ s-S-C-H-A-M-^ -pld \_ I think it's just M-^ \_ MOTD poll (mark all appropriate choices): My keyboard has: An Alt key: 3 A Super key: 1 A Meta key: 3 A Hyper key: 1 A Linefeed key: 1 An F30+ key: 0 An F60+ key: 0 Semen stains: 1 An apple key: 3 A USB connector: 2 A USB hub: 1 Headphone jack: 1 Mic jack: 1 Two turntables and a microphone: 1 Too damned many special keys: 1 \_ Just Ctrl-E to go to the end of this line, then Ctrl-D to delete the end-of-line. \_ If you want to join to the next line instead of the previous, just give a prefix arg to M-^. -pld \_ Thanks. |
2000/8/3 [Health/Men] UID:18861 Activity:nil |
8/3 If heterosexual men yearn for young girls, do gay men yearn for young boys? Or is it the opposite? (+ + = +, + - = -, etc?) \_ yes , they do. Which is why we need to keep our children away from gay sports instructors and boy scout leaders. \_ and priests. \_ if the mult rule applies, +*+=+, -*-=+, +*-=+, and you apply the rule of inference, then, yes, gay men yearn for old men. \_ What? "+*-=+"? \_ speak for yourself, reiffin. -tom \_ learn to format, tom. Bad formatting corrected. |
2000/8/3-4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:18862 Activity:moderate |
8/3 Trevor for CSUA Beeboy! \_ WTF is a "Beeboy"? - csua old fogies \_ It's a guy who collects... oh fuck it. -geordan \_ trevorbu@attachmate.com \_ It's a guy who collects... oh fuck it. -geordan \_ Trevor for CSUA Emperor! \_ Trevor kicks ass! - tjb #1 fan |
2000/8/3-4 [Uncategorized] UID:18863 Activity:nil |
8/3 Anybody tried a free ISP like altavista or freeinternet? How do you like it? Just how much add are they pushing down your pipe? And how much personal info do you have to give out? |
2000/8/3-4 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18864 Activity:nil |
8/3 http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu/~alexf/littleX.jpg http://www.securityfocus.com/frames/?content=/vdb/bottom.html%3Fsection%3Ddiscussion%26vid%3D1503 Oh fuck... \_ Read further: "Netscape Communicator 4.74 and Mozilla M16 are not vulnerable to this issue." \_ Yes. But. Most people will take ages to upgrade. And forcing latest NS bloatware down my throat is not something I take lightly. I *like* my 4.0[478]. Liked, rather. \_ use lynx \_ Just a picture of a little X. What's the big deal? \_ Did you read the second URL? If you open the little X picture in Netscape 4.73, it crashes. |
2000/8/3-4 [Uncategorized] UID:18865 Activity:nil |
8/3 Drinking Kava Tea is DUI! Friends don't let friends Kava and drive! \_ BTW, Just ran across this cool "Don't drink and drive" commercial: http://www.adcritic.com/content/molson-wheelchair.html -- yuen |
2000/8/3-4 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:18866 Activity:nil |
8/3 My group, Wicki 6, will be opening for the Irrationals at 8pm tonight at Anna's Place in Berkeley. 1801 University near Grant St. -chaos |
2000/8/3-4 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:18867 Activity:high |
8/3 If reiffin is a homosexual man yearning for young boys, why is he married? If he's not, why is he trolling soda's MOTD? \_ it's obviously a cover. and young is relative, so that's why he's trolling here. \_ who's reiffin? -sophomore \_ oh come on, you honestly can't bleieve anyone would marry poppy as anything but a beard. \_ She's attractive. What's wrong with you? You gay? \_ 1) she isn't attractive. 2) she could look like cathrine zeta jones and it wouldn't matter. \_ is that you jj? Get ove CZJ, she's got old foggy disease. \_ Who's poppy? \_ reiffin's wife \_ picsP? \_ Poppy's all right. She really doesn't deserve this. -ex-czer \_ Poppy is a raving, foaming, loon \_ nah, she's really all right. At least when I was at CZ. Actually, most people at CZ were cool when I was there. A lot better than the wife-beaters and self-destructive folk at the more conservative co-ops I lived in later. -ex-czer \_ I think she lost it after she started dating judd. Hell, wouldn't you? |
2000/8/3-4 [ERROR, uid:18868, category id '31298#2.5' has no name! , , Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:18868 Activity:high |
8/3 i am a 61a student working on a project. someone told me it would be useful for me to use a "slashdot" in my code. what is a slashdot? thanks. \_ when you are filled with justified anger and rant about some linux issue when it is obivous you don't know what the fuck you talking about? \_ How can it be justified if they don't know what the fuck they're talking about? And /. posters are morons about more than linux. \_ uh DUHOY that was the whole fucking point you pathetic excuse for a moron. \_ The whole point was that your statement conflicts with itself? OK! \_ aren't too bright are ya? \_ You misheard me. I said use "pound bang" -- someone \_ Slashdot got into your brain. |
2000/8/3-4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:18869 Activity:very high |
8/3 leer, anitac, tjb, kchang. Who else does the csua love? \_ dickylee \_ benco and farad \_ tom and ali \_ benco and farad and achoi \_ !psb \_ cmlee \_ yermom \_ dickylee, tom, ali, benco, farad, achoi, !psb, cmlee, yermom |
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