Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2000:June:13 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2000/6/13-14 [Industry/Startup] UID:18454 Activity:low
6/12    How do you find suid programs in a directory structure.  I've tried
        find -perm -4000 .
        as the man pages states but all I get is
        find: illegal option -- p
        find: illegal option -- e
        find: illegal option -- r
        find: illegal option -- m
        find: illegal option -- 4
        find: illegal option -- 0
        find: illegal option -- 0
        find: illegal option -- 0
        \_ Try "find . -perm -4000" instead.
           \_ Is there a list of programs that should be SUID?
                \_ Yes.  There are many in fact - a different one for each
                   version of each flavor of Unix, plus a whole other set
                   for different packages you may have added on.
                   \_ According to only mail and sendmail
                      need be suid.
                        \_ is wrong.  In fact it's really
                           badly wrong, since sendmail doesn't need to be
                           suid (though it usually is).  -tom
                        \_ su, rlogin, rsh all become pretty useless without
                           the setuid bit.  (Although for rsh & rlogin, that
                           may be a good thing.)  -alan-
2000/6/13-14 [Science/Space, Recreation/House] UID:18455 Activity:high
6/13    Probably a longshot, but I'll ask anyway.  Anybody know of a system
        for reclaiming "greywater" (kitchen/bathroom sink water) for use in
        watering lawns and plants?  I searched the web and all I could find
        was big greywater treatment plants.  I was thinking of something
        small for an single house to use.
        \_ get a bucket.  Fill from sink.  Pour on lawn.  Repeat as necessary.
           \_ "That's not greywater."
           \_ If you want whitewater, put the bucket under a Soda users desk.
        \_ That's pretty disgusting.  Don't feed anyone from your garden.
           \_ Dumbass. Ever think where any given molecule in your body
              comes from? I'll guarantee you that 99.99% are at least 10-th
              generation manure
                \_ I'm not concerned with where a particular molecule was 2
                   billion years ago.  A molecule, by it's nature is not
                   filthy or diseased.  Would you care to drink my piss?  I'm
                   sure some of those molecules come from the purist spring
                   waters.  You're pretty much just an idiot.  I feel for you.
           if you're serious about this stuff
           i know some hippie households that have implemented a greywater
           system to water their plants with water from the washing machine
           and bathtub - danh
2000/6/13-14 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:18456 Activity:nil
6/13    Why does java applets take such a long time to load.  Is there
        anyway to speed it up?
        \_ Remote java applets have to come over the net.  Local ones would
           be slow if your hardware sucks or your app is some huge bloated
           MS-ish monster.
           \_ Netscape's early attempts at the JVM were a little gimpy.  I
              recommend getting the new one or installing Java Plug-in and
              ripping out the VM inside...
2000/6/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:18457 Activity:nil
        \_ the funniest thing is
           It is hilarious man!  Try it!
           \_ Best Viewed With lynx (tm)
              I love my browser.
        \_ Bwahahahahahah.
2000/6/13-14 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:18458 Activity:moderate
6/13    Is there a way to restrict the use of a command so that you must
        be using ssh or logged in from console in order to execute it?
        For example, I want to ensure that nobody uses sudo while using
        telnet or rlogin.
        \_ no.
           \_ This is UNIX. If the request is reasonable and especially
              if is something that a lot of people might want, the answer
              is always Yes. And in fact, it's probably already been setup.
              if its something that a lot of people might want, the answer
              is always Yes. And if so, it's probably already been done.
        \_ Yes.  Wrap the command.  In the wrapper make sure whatever your
           conditions are are true before running the command.  Or just
           disable crap like telnet and rlogin which no one should be using
                \- try something like: --psb
                if ($?SSH_TTY && -e ~/.ssh.init)        source  ~/.ssh.init
                echo -n ' .ssh.init'
                set prompt="%SSSH%s-%m{%h}[%~]%% "
                alias emacs emacs -nw
2000/6/13-14 [Uncategorized] UID:18459 Activity:nil
6/12    soinc foundry's acid dj 2.0 free with rebate at
2000/6/13-14 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:18460 Activity:moderate
6/14    Where is a good place to go after you've served your time at Oracle?
        \_ any place but oracle.
        \_ Inferiorix or Diebase
        \_ Siebel is a good place.
        \_ more hard time at intel
2000/6/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Industry/Startup] UID:18461 Activity:very high
        \_ I like how they grow to great lengths to talk about "Project
           Mercury" without ever actually explaining what "Project
           Mercury" is.  This is just another moronic
           startup.  There is no new ground breaking technology here
           just like all those other stupid startups who claim they
           do but really don't.
        \_ Yet another web startup.  God, what do you guys actually do
           besides IPO?
        \_ you must be joking
           \_ no, I'm joeking. -- joeking
        \_ "universe everywhere is equally dense with idiots"
                                           \_ dans
           they got the buzzword thing down.
        \_ thank you for adding more buzzords to the industry, fuckers
        \_ it's dans's startup.
           \_ dans, you are a moron
        \_ The name is terrible and stupid, but perhaps, just maybe, that was
        \_ I'd just like to point out that there's a Bill Gates quote on
           there, and the color makes it look like a baby underwear store.
           Otherwise, it's an alright idea;  some specifics would be nice
           though.  -John
        \_ So, uhm, ok, I read the 5 or so pages.  It looks like they're
           developing a web browser.  The description could have come from
           1992 from a Netscape PR flak talking about NS 1.0.  I like how
           they got the buzzword thing down, but I'd avoid pointing out the
           value of all that student talent in a frat house basement.  And
           don't fucking edit the content of my posts you fucking asshole.
           I said what I meant.  If you want to delete the whole thing, go
           ahead, but don't chop off half a sentence and stick a period in
           to change the entire meaning of my post.  Fuck you and the college
           boys hacking in a frat basement.
           \_ what do you have against hacking out code in a basement?
              \_ You missed the point. The emphasis was on the word "frat"
                 \_ ok, i'll bite, what do you have against hacking code
                    in a frat basement (as opposed to a regular basement?)
                    The software written there does _not_ become the property
                    of the frat any more than it would some berkeley building
                    owner if they got an office in dt berkeley.
                        \_ A bunch of drunken frat boys hacking in a basement
                           is *not* considered a positive business statement
                           which might convince a VC to cough up a few million
                           bucks or a business partner to bet his company on
                           your product.  That you would ask such a question
                           explains why SV is full of Stanford founders and
                           not Cal founders.  Cal could really use some basic
                           business classes for engineers.  Practical stuff,
                           not macroeconomics.
        \_ wow, who's working at
2000/6/13 [Recreation/Dating] UID:18462 Activity:high
6/14    What are the dangers of dating soda guys ? -- asian grrl newbie
        \_ they'll insist you go down on them while they're walling; at
           least I would
                        - small penises
                \_ ahm will fuck and tell all about your pimply pussy
2000/6/13-14 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:18463 Activity:very high
6/14    I have the following in my .emacs:
        (setq load-path (cons "$HOME/html-helper-mode" load-path))
        But when I try to enter that mode, I get a file not found error.
        (the .el IS there).  Is there any way I can change this without
        hardcoding my home directory?
        \-use ~ or         (defvar HOME    (concat (getenv "HOME") "/")) --psb
        \_ Works perfect, thank you much.  Do you know how to get
        html-helper-mode to indent properly?
        \- mr. emacs despises html. --mr-emacs
        \_ You're not mr-emacs.  Mr. Emacs would never say such a thing.
           It drives people to FrontPage.
                \- M-x bite-me --mr-emacs
2000/6/13-14 [Consumer/Audio] UID:18464 Activity:kinda low
6/14    I have a bunch of voice recordings (for foreign language
        listening practice), currently in .wav format, recorded in mono
        at 22Khz.  I want to convert them to mp3, and am trying to
        figure out what would be the right bitrate/quality to minimize
        the filesizes with reasonable sound.  How does one determine this?
        \_ 32 kbps, 22khz, mono. go lower if you'd like.
2018/11/15 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2000:June:13 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>