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 2000/6/12-14 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:18446 Activity:moderate ```6/11 Anybody know if encryption routines (DES, IPsec related, etc) can be parallelized? Does adding more CPUs and writing some parallel software speed things up? \_ Look at the source code. Much of the time, what can be parallelized is done at a fine grain level (vector data, level, loop level, instruction level, etc...) in which case, adding CPU's won't do you any good. If it's thread level paralellism, then yes. Go to http://mit.edu's web site and search for Krste Asonovic (he was a PhD student here w/ Patterson). His thesis has a good explaination. Also look at the spring 2000 cs252 website. I think someone did a project on encryption algorithms. -jeff \_ IPSEC isn't an encryption routine--IPSEC ESP just makes provision for tunnel encryption and key exchange for whatever crypto you're using. -John the Nitpicker \_ No. \_ It depends on the feedback mode used. If the cyper is running in ECB mode, yes, but it's a bad mode of operation otherwise. the most common mode, CFB mode, has a dependency between blocks and can't be parallelized. -nweaver \_ is that a mathematically proven statement or a "can't _easily_ be paralellized"? \_ Do you understand what you're talking about? If step B depends on the result of step A before it can be started, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO RUN A & B IN PARALLEL. \_ Do YOU understand what YOU are talking about? There's more than one way to split a task into blocks, and parallelism need not apply at global level to be useful. A complete mathematical proof of nweaver's statement would be quite difficult. \_ Not so. It's been done before in superscalar processors using load value prediction and trivial computation predictions. \_ CFB can not be parallelized beyond the parallelism inherant in the encryption of a single block, because of the dependency. CFB of block N is computed by encrypting the value of N xor the last block. -nweaver \_ look, computation prediction is NOT trivial!! \_ CFB encyption can NOT be parallelized beyond the parallelimsm inherant in the encryption of a single block, because of the cyclic dependency. You need to completely encrypt one block before you can begin encrypting the next block. CFB DECRYPTION however, can be parallelized between blocks. -nweaver```
 2000/6/12-14 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:18447 Activity:high ```6/12 What's the difference between a 386DX and a 80386? I have a "386(TM)DX Microprocessor Programmer's Reference Manual" and a "80386 Programmer's Reference Manual", but they list different cycle counts for the same instruction. \_ It's the exact same thing. One of your manuals is wrong. \_ 386DX is the "Deluxe" version of the 80386 \_ Hmm, so the "Deluxe" requires more cycles? "REP MOVS" is 8+4*CX cycles on the 386DX but 5+4*CX on the 80386? \_ No one ever accussed the Intel x86 designers of doing things that made sense. Just look at the whole segmented memory nightmare. \_ 386SX is the "SuX" version of the 80386 \_ I vaguely remember one has the co-processor built-in and the other doesn't. But then, my memory is pretty faulty these days. \_ http://aol.pcwebopedia.com/TERM/I/Intel_microprocessors.html BTW, it was the 486SX that didn't have a co-processor. 80386's never had them. \_ just don't mention anything like this when Kahan is around \_ 486SX had an 8-bit bus, whereas the DX has a 16-bit bus. \_ I'm sorry, but that was an incorrect answer. \_ a 386DX is an 80386DX without the annoying 80 part. \_ a 386DX is, in fact, a .25 micron copper-process 68030 \_ so what's a 386SX? \_ .30 micron aluminum \_ .44 magnum \_ *giggle* \_ Or maybe it is a .8 CMOS -eric \_ the 386DX is the 80386, as god intended it to be. the DX to distinguish it from the later, lamer 386SX which is a 386 crippled with a 16bit data bus (as opposed to 32 on the DX). Both are essentially programatically identical. To confuse matters further, there was a 486DX (normal) and 486SX but the difference there was that the former had a built-in maths coprocessor and the latter did not. Bus widths were the same. \_ And there's a 486GX with 16-bit data bus. \_ Then how come the manuals of 386DX and 80386 shows different cycle counts for "REP MOVS"? \_ Why do you care? No one uses 386's anymore and the timings on modern CPUs are far different. \_ Didn't the 486SX actually have the coprocessor on-chip but was disabled by an extra pin? \_ speaking of processors, what distinguishes a 0.18 and a 0.25 micron processor (such as when some articles discussing the dreamcast processors chips vs. the upcoming ps2 processor chips? the 0.18 is supposed to be better than the 0.25 but harder to manufacture...what makes the 0.18 better, what does that number refer too? -- no-clue \_ 0.18 and 0.25u refers to the minimum channel length of a transistor. Obviously, the shorter the channel length, the less resistance there exists in the pull up and pull down network of a CMOS circuit. Changes in process technology also effects other factors like the reduction of gate oxide thickness which increases the gate capacitance per area of transistor and, therefore, increases the gain as a result of applying gate voltage. Also, among many other things, the threshold voltage changes. Take 105 or 141 and they'll tell you all about it (but by all means, avoid Neureuther). -jeff \_ Width of 'wiring'. Smaller = less heat from lower resistence but harder to make. Less heat = can run faster before dying from heat problems. \_ thanks, i didn't know what that number referred to.```
 2000/6/12-14 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:18448 Activity:high ```6/12 ANyone know if FreeBSD uses an inode per symbolic link? --PeterM \_ Use the source luke, or build a freebsd system and try it yourself. \_ which is much more efficient than asking someone who might know. Asshole. \_ I answered your question on wall already peterm (which is where you asked it originally). --jon \_ Missed your wall, jon. Doh. Thanks though. --PeterM \_ yes. pretty sure all operating systems do. -dpetrou \_ a symlink is a file. files use inodes. \_ Reiserfs can store very small files (like symlinks) without using an inode. I wasn't sure FreeBSD didn't do that. --PeterM \_ peterm sounds like a typical super bright wanna-be-tech non-tech major \_ gee I didn't know plasma simulations programming was a non-tech "major". \_ Yeah. Maybe someday he'll wise up and go back to hanging out with all his fratboy friends back at Haas, where he belongs!```
 2000/6/12-15 [Reference/BayArea, Reference/RealEstate] UID:18449 Activity:low ```6/12 Looking for 2-3 bedroom house in Berkeley/Albany/Emeryville/Oakland area that I can be very very noisy in w/o disturbing neighbors. Under \$2K a month...email sky if you know of any and I shall shower you with gratitude. -sky \_ hopefully not of the amber-colored kind \_ My urine is glow in the dark orange -sky \_ "drink my yellow spray!" \_ I don't know any home owners in that area I dislike. \_ Ok. But how about areas where you want the property value to depreciate? -sky \_ Liability is a big concern for me. \_ I think there are probably a few charming places within walking distance of West Oakland BART. -John```
 2000/6/12-14 [Industry/Startup, Industry/Jobs] UID:18450 Activity:high ```6/12 This is prob. been asked many times already, but what is the standard scale for converting from hourly/contractor to yearly/ employee? Have choice btwn stock option or bonus structure but I think i will take bonus structure... -sky \_ Hourly->Yearly is multiply by 2000, but contractor->employee is much harder. \_ hourly->yearly is correct. but for contractor->employee i usually like to do hourly * 1000. so if you're making \$120/hr, that would be \$240,000 annual. but if you want to be an employee, it would give around \$120,000 or maybe slightly more. -uctt \_ Wow! Are you saying that a company will pay twice as much to a contractor as opposed to an employee? Why? I do realize to a contractor as opposed to an employee? \_ no, he's saying that contractors have to pay more of their money to the gubmint as taxes Why? I do realize that as a contractor you have to pay self-employment tax, health insurance, retirement benefits, vacation, etc. When I account for all this it seems to me that contractors should get about 1.4--1.5 times as much as salaried employees. How do you come up with your x2 number. Thanks. -emin \_ yes, they will pay twice as much for a contractor over a salaried employee. why? 1. usually contractors are better skilled \_ Hahahahhahahhhahaa.. cough.. gasp... wheeze.... \_ contrary to popular belief, not everyone (other than you) is stupid. every day our group is looked at to make sure that we are adding value to the client's projects. and every day they realize that for every one of our guys we do the work of at least 3 of their employees. we work longer hours and more importantly, we're more productive. that's why they can justify to their C-levels the amount of money that is being spent. start your own company and maybe you'll learn. -uctt \_ Sounding pretty defensive. I'm sure each of you is a tremendous value-add and >insert buzzwords 4 through 16 here< Yep. You're worth any 10 normal men! 2. you can get them quickly. if you need 2 highly skilled java EJB developers with 2+ years of java experience, it will take you at least 2 months to interview 10+ people and find 2 good ones and have them start. with contractors, you can have 2 in your office in 1-2 weeks. 3. if you only need them for 3-6 months, you can get them to agree to that. try telling a salaried employee that "your salary is \$120k but you may have to get fired in 3 months cuz we won't need you then". 4. they usually do not give them stock, they usually can make them work, and they can usually get rid of them relatively painlessly whenever they want to. short answer? flexibility. that flexibility is worth paying 2x. the 2x comes from experience of hiring contractors, hiring employees, and hiring contractors->employees. -uctt \_ uctt, are you a contractor? what do you do? \_ contract. \_ No wonder he thinks contractors are more skilled. \_ full time employee at my own startup now. never contracted in my life. but i did spent some time in big 5 consulting managing various e-Commerce projects and our team of consultants from big 5 was always much better than the employees in the client company (that's why they were paying us \$275-\$350/hr to be there) -uctt \_ No. They were paying that so management could have someone to blame when it all falls to shit. No one pays you more because you're more skilled. They don't have a basis to judge your skill level. \_ of course that's a big part of it. we'll take the blame if it all "falls to shit". it's called taking RESPONSIBILITY and i'll take the responsiblity for a project in exchange for the big bucks that they have to pay us. i've met morons in consulting. i've met a lot more morons that work as full time employees for the client. -uctt \_ You know why that is, right? The companies that don't need your expertise don't hire you. If there's a better staff in house then likely they'll go with that. Granted, sometimes management does stupid things anyway, but I bet this helps explain your experiences. --dim \_ Holy cow! I find myself agreeing 100% with dim. Hell has just frozen over. \_ I think it's a great idea to hire consultants when the current staff is better. What's the matter with you?!?```
 2000/6/12-14 [Uncategorized] UID:18451 Activity:kinda low ```6/12 Help. For some reason I've been getting call spammed by recruiters in the past few days. They have somehow gotten my home phone number. How do I make them stop? \_ sufficiently related: http://volatile.simplenet.com/kym/humor/telerid.htm \_ tell them in no uncertain terms to go eat shit and die. If they call again tell them you will find out where they live. \_ Hassling phone calls from a single organization are subject to \$500 fines. You have to tell them that you want to be placed on their do not call lists, get their name and record the time. If they call you again you can nail them. I forget how though- I've never had to go that far. \_ http://www.nolo.com/encyclopedia/articles/ctim/nn199.html \_ "What's your name? What company? One second while I add you to my list of people I'll be certain to never work through again." \_ Same way to stop other spam. Change your phone number.```
 2000/6/12-14 [Uncategorized] UID:18452 Activity:low ```6/12 So i am looking at a packet, the header info seems right, it gets an ack packet from where it is being sent but it doesn't do what it is supposed to when it gets there. Ether-Peek doesn't seem to let me read what is inside the packet (except in hex). Where can I get a hex reader? OR is there way to do this in Etherpeek that i just haven't found? (or gnusniff or whatever, i'm not particular) \_ use snoop on solaris. \_ tcpdump -vvv will do this too, I think. -John \_ M-x hexl-mode \_ Convert hex in your head, like a real man. \_ Convert? You mean you don't already think in hex?```
 2000/6/12-14 [Transportation/Motorcycle] UID:18453 Activity:nil ```6/12 Where can i get cheap motorcycle insurance that is NOT McGraw? \_ progressive came in pretty cheap for me -shac \_ Call felder - http://www.7cycles.com I'm using some offshoot of Sullivan&Sullivan at under \$300 for full on my boxer. -jor```
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