5/9     Today's Top 10 from <DEAD>www.hillary2000.com<DEAD>  [Yes, go ahead, delete this,
        restoring it without damaging the rest of the motd is trivial]

Top ten reasons that Bill and Hillary did not adopt another child (as she
considered during their first campaign).

10. Lost the application along with the Rose lawfirm records.

9. Just got Chelsae out, why start over?

8. Hillary does not want to have to learn to bake cookies again.

7. Not worth the effort since the kid can't vote until he/she is 18.

6. Was going to but then Buddy came along and ... well...

5. Had enough servants around the Whitehouse.

4. One big baby in the family was enough.

3. All of the spare Whitehouse bedrooms were already rented out.

2. Adoption application includes fingerprints and an FBI background check.

1. Bill kept insisting on a seventeen year old girl.

05/09  mutt upgraded to 1.2; bugs to brg

5/10    If anyone has an old style powermac (serial ports, NOT usb),
        approx 200 MHz or so, and is interested in selling, contact me,
                -nweaver@csua

5/10    If anyone is interested in working in Tokyo, there are several
        positions available at Nikko Salomon Smith Barney as follows.
        * DBA
        * Web Based System Developer
        * System / Marketing Support - Bond Portfolio Analysis
        * Tokyo Fixed Income Application Support
        * Asst. Project Manager for Multi-Currency Project
        * Control / Data Security Program Controller
        * Systems Analyst/Programmer Financial Systems - Treasury
        * Programmer / Analyst - Trade Support
        * General Accounting Developer
        Details are in http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/~yumin/nssb
        \_ Heh.
           HARDWARE/SOFTWARE PLATFORMS
           *  Soralis, AIX, NT, C, JAVA, Perl, etc...

5/10    psb, you're smart. When are you going back to grad sk00l?
        \_ Obviously someone who knows nothing about psb.  - psb #1 fan

5/10    Has anyone actually seen sky's girlfriend? Does anyone have her
        contact information?
        \_ interested in his hot babe?
          \_ who isn't?
             \_ I am not.

5/10    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/updates/lat_gay000510.htm
        \_ http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/2680/index.html

5/10    http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/2680/index.html

5/10    I ordered DSL through Rhythm 3 months ago and I still don't have it.
        They keep blaming Pac Bell.  Anybody had similar problems with
        Rhythm?  How long did it take you to get a DSL line from PacBell?

5/10    Speaking of old games, how do I slow down old games on a faster
        PII or PIII machine?  Old ==  games designed for 8088 or a 286?
        \_ moslo
           \_ what exactly is moslo?
              \_ it's a little erratic (can make games jumpy) but I
                 think it's the best thing available, allows you to
                 specify % of processor speed to use for a (dos) game.
              \_ Try looking it up on http://www.google.com
              \_ http://www.hpaa.com/moslo

5/10    This is a question for soda RPG fans.  What are some good, hardcore
        RPGs to buy (old games ok, naturally).  I am thinking maybe the
        Wizardry Archives...  Anyone have any thoughts on how good wizardry
        games are?  Are there other recommendations?
        \_ Wizardry was pretty cool.  Rumor has it it was written in Pascal.
           Also, Ultima series, Pool of Radiance, other SSI type of Dungeons
           and Dragon Games.
        \_ Ultima 4 and 5, maybe 6.  3 on my old mac was good.
           Wizardry and SSI games, yes. You can get an SSI games
           collection that has about 12 games in it, maybe 6-8 worth
           playing, but even moslo won't help on a pentium, with those.
           Bard's Tale 3.  Maybe Darksun (1, not 2).  Fallout /
           Fallout 2 if you don't mind futuristic stuff.  Betrayal at
           Krondor was very good and is now freely downloadable. -niloc
           \_ I generally agree especially Ultima 3,4,5 and Wizardry and
              SSI games.  I forgot about Bard's Tale.
        \_ GOLDBOX!
        \_ DAGGERFALL!
                \_ Sorcerer.  100% spell absorbtion, shield spell, point at
                   ground, launch fireball.  Infinite mana.  Thus infinite
                   shields, healing, etc.  Tough character to start but a
                   cake walk after that.
        \_ The ol' Hellfire Warrior from SSI, very early 80's on the Apple
           IIe
           \_ You don't know anything about Apple //'s until you've played
              Montazuma's Revenge.
        \_ Out of the recent stuff, Fallout I and II. Download patches.
                -muchandr
           \_ Planescape: Torment beats the utter crap out of any other
              RPG released within the past few years.  -blojo
              \_ I agree, it was brilliant.  I forgot to mention it.
                 But Fallout was good.  I'd rank it second, of recent
                 games.  -niloc
           \_ Wasteland!

5/10    Any good south bay/peninsula/southeast bay (Fremont/Newark, etc.)
        dining places with good food, service, and a good place for a "date"?
        \_ I had a good time at Nijo Castle in fremont.   Its more of a
           Benihana clone though.
         \_ I liked the food at Nijo Castle better, but the "show" is better
            at Benihana's if you want to see the flashy cooking style. --oj
             \_ Nijo Castle is not a good "date" place if you want to have
                a private conversation though.  At least not at the
                teppanyaki table.  And I thought it was too expensive
                compared to other teppanyaki places.  -cheap date

5/10    Is it just me, or there are simply not enough plugs for the modern
        world?
        \_ wouldn't it be nice to have wireless batteries or wireless power?
           (ludicrous)
                \_ you mean like the sun isn't wireless power?
                   \_ Solar panels on every roof! And a wind turbine that
                        sounds like a jet plane in every back yard! Uuuugly.

 5/10   Anybody have experience planting/growing a ginkgo biloba tree?
        I'm planning to grow several around my house.  I'm wondering if
        there are any gotchas with those types of trees.
        \_ Make sure to get a male plant.  Female plants STINK TO HIGH
           HEAVEN.  This is true of ginkgo plants in general. -- ilyas
                \_ Tell us of the stars, ilyas....
                        \_ ok I'll bite.  What about the stars and ilyas?
                           I see this dog him everywhere.  What is up?
                \_ there was a wall conversation where he was claiming
                   that stars might be sentient beings.  -tom
                   \_ Stars are sentient beings.  -John
                      \_ Unfortunately not every anonymous idiot who posts on
                         the motd is.
                   \_ there was a really cool quote in Don Quixote that
                      went something like "who is crazier? the one who
                      claims that they might be giants, or the one who
                      absolutely refuses to believe that there is a
                      possibility they might be?" sorry for butchering it. -ali
                      \_ Did the obvious band use this reference, or is their
                         name a coincidence?
                         \_ The 't' is 'they', not 'there'
                         \_ sort of. apparently, they got it from a sherlock
                            holmes-in-the-modern-world movie in the 70s,
                            which is pretty cool flic. after reading,
                            http://www.tmbg.org/band-info/faq i'm wondering
                            if i ever saw that quote in cervantes book or if
                            i saw it in the movie. -ali
                        \_ I'm pretty sure it was from the movie.  At least,
                           it was definitely said by George C. Scott in the
                           movie.  -tom

5/10    I am getting a PC to play games, run quicken and surf the net.
        Should I specify Win 98 SE or Windows 2000 (no price difference)?
        Would Windows 2000 give me the same functionality but a little
        more stability?  My current Win95 system crashed way too often.
        \_ Win98SE if you want to play lots of games.  Not all games
           work under W2K.
           \_ My experience dual-booting both has been that 98 is less
              unstable than W2k.  Even IE is flakey under win2k...
                \_ Are you mad?  98 is total crap.  w2k has issues but
                   nothing like 98.  98 is _only_ good for games.  I disabled
                   the net for my 98 install because it's such a POS.  Most
                   games will do ok under w2k, but not all.  As newer games
                   comes out, more and more will run under w2k.
           \_ My experience is Win2K is much stabler than 98/98 SE.
              I never want to go back to 98 again.
              \_ Also keep in mind that there are 98 programs that may
                 not work correctly on W2k so you may be out of luck until
                 they put out an update.  Personally I'd stay with W98SE
                 unless there's a reason you want W2k.
        \_ Buy the playstation 2 for games.  Don't buy a PC.  Buy
           a Mac for surfing the net and running quicken.
                \_ The playstation is only good for twitch games.  There are
                   tons of non-twitch games for the PC that don't exist for
                   the PS and probably never will.  The Mac?  Stop trolling.
        \_ macs rule.  pppplllllt!