4/35 Is it ethical to date a girl who is in a serious relationship?
P.S. her bf is a major f*** luzer. Does that make a difference?
\_ Sure. Just as long as he's willing to have a twosome.
\_ Sure. Just as long as he's willing to have a threesome.
\_ If it's a question of honor, just ask yourself ... "What
\_ OH, yeah. Of course it's OK. I have no doubt that you are
rescuing this girl from a fate worse than death. You go,
Romeo. "Et tu, luzer?"
\_ Just give the BF luzer an offer he can't refuse.
-Michael Corleone
would Worf do?" If it's a question of being cool, ask
yourself ... "What would Fonzie do?" Those guidelines
apply to everything in life.
\_ don't bother to read this next bunch of crap, and fuck the bitch
\_ Maybe she's just confused and wants to make the bf jealous
so that he'll show his love for her by kicking your ass.
Once she's "woken him up" and made him "realize how much
he really loves her", she'll dump you like
already. Dumbass.
\_ Is it ethical for the woman who is in
a serious relatiosnhip to be dating you? wtfyta?
\_ http://www.girlfriendstealer.com
\_ If you can stand the CHAOS (re: drdrew), then always remember to
be the GUEST STAR -- so BRING a friend. (Sex and the City). -robin
\_ Look, she's not married to him, right? She's willing to date?
There's a reason why she's willing to date, because she wants
something better than what she's got. Is it unethical to offer
her something better than what she's got?
\_ If you don't mind some other guy in the future thinking the
same way about you and her, go for it.
\_ If she fools around on her current bf, who's to say she won't do
the same thing to you?
\_ Ethics has nothing to do with it. She has free will. You're not
do anything she doesn't already want to do. Don't be an egotist.
forcing her to do anything. Even if married, she has the right and
option to get a divorce. You do not have the power to 'make' her
do anything she doecsn't already want to do. Don't be an egotist.
Don't be a manly prince doing The Right Thing by following some
bizarre standard of ethics only you adhere to. Don't be the
patronising idiot you sound like. She has a choice in the matter.
It's *always* ok. Even to pursue a married woman. She has the
option to tell you to fuck off if not interested. I'm a married
man and have no problem knowing my wife is getting hit on at work
you want this woman. If you thought the boyfriend was an OK guy,
everyday by both men and women. They have the right to try and
yourself.
she has the power to blow them off.
\_ My rule on this is simple: don't break up a good thing. Besides
the obvious meaning, there is the underlying belief that, if you
break up a good thing, someone else will come along and break up
something good that you have later. This raises the question of
how do you tell if something is a good thing? If the bf is a
luzer, then I'd say no, but don't be so quick to make that
judgement. Of course you think the boyfriend is a luzer-- afterall,
you want this girl. If you thought the boyfriend was an OK guy,
then you'd have a much harder time justifying your actions to
yourself. Ask a friend what he/she thinks, perhaps a mutual friend
of yours and the girl you're interested in. Better yet, ask the
girl about the bf. There's almost always a bit of idealizing that
goes on when describing a significant other, but you'll probably be
able to tell pretty quickly whether the faults outweigh the
benefits. One last thing: corollary to my rule that you shouldn't
break up a good thing. You're obligated to break up a bad thing.
-dans
\_ You're confused. You *cant* break up a good thing. You don't
have that power. Your entire line of reasoning is patronising
and demeans her ability to choose for herself. She may be with
the biggest loser on the planet but choose to stay with him no
matter what you do. She may be with the biggest winner and
leave him for a total loser like you. Again, it's because she
has chosen to do so. Making yourself available and pursuing her
has *zero* ethical implications for the guy hitting on her. None.
Zip. Nil. She has free will. Stop your patronising bullshit.
She'll stay or go as she pleases no matter what you decide, do,
or think. She isn't an object. No wonder so many young men
have such a hard time getting laid. You completely and totally
fail to comprehend this one simple fact. She's a person.
As far as your theory about someone else coming along later if
you do it now.. that's total bullshit. Your actions now have
absolutely no bearing on what some other guy will do down the
line. There is no cause/effect relationship between you and
the future actions of an unknown individual.
\_ I think dans is saying "This is the way I think people
should do it," and the responder is saying "That's what
you think, but don't feel guilty if you want to hit on a
spouse, because that person can decide on their own."
\_ What the free will wanker is missing is that free will is not
a given. She can think for herself? I don't take that for
granted. And no, I'm not being sexist. Plenty of guys can't
think for themselves either. And even if someone generally
has a good head on his/her shoulders in day to day life, most
people get all fucked up when it comes to relationships, and
there capacity to decide goes out the window. In immature
relationships (and one can't judge if the relationship in
question is mature or not without more information), one
person usually has a not wholly insignificant degree of
control over the other. In said situation, the "other" has
had his/her will subverted, and it cannot accuartely be said
that he/she can think for him/herself when the relationship
is concerned. Hence, the obligation to break up a bad thing.
Free will is a choice. Even if you are born free, which,
despite your rosy enlightenment-inspired worldview, is not
guaranteed, you are only free so long as your will is YOUR
will. This is not always the case. -dans
\_ Say what? Being with someone has zapped them of their
free will? Do you even know what free will is? Unless
drugged or put through a Soviet era brain washing program,
she has free will. You're a patronising idiot.
\_ You're basically correct, but you're missing the other
implications of the fact that she can think for herself.
From how I read the original question, he asked "is it
ok to date a girl..." not "is it ok to hit on a girl..."
The implication being that he can DEFINATLY date her,
presumeably because her bf is such a goon. But that
raises the question of, why doesn't she just dump him?
If the guy is so bad, she should just flat out dump him,
not go looking for people on the side. The fact that
hasn't just dumped him means she hasn't got he head on
straight, and you shouldn't date her because she's a
fruitcake, not because it's not ethical. And no, I
\_ There's a big difference between "should I?" for silly
pseudo-ethical reasons and "should I date a nutcase?"
Some of us like nut heads. That's just a personal
preference and is an entirely different issue. Her
current relationship status has nothing to do with her
state of nuttiness. -likes em nutty
\_ Actually I just want to sleep with her and see what it is like.
I don't want an actual relationship. AdviceP?
\_ Hahahahahahaha. This is the question about "ethics" you had?
Forget about the girl, you should go hook up with Alanis
Morissette and start making "ironically ethical" babies
left, right, and center. -- alice
\_ *LAUGH* I agree. To ask about ethics and all this other
philosophical bullshit when all he really wanted was the
motd's permission to get off is pretty fucked. The boy
needs to grow up or just visit a hooker if he wants to
know what sex feels like. I don't think Alanis is
available any time soon, though.
\_ Fuck ethics and whatever else you want then.
You could die tomorrow, why waste an opportunity to live
and share some loving and pleasure (however brief) with
another human being? Unless, of course, it permanently
maims/disfigures/diseases you.
don't care how beutiful or kinky she is, crazy girls is
trouble. -jrleek
\-Should you steal your friend's CDs while he is taking
a shower? He has free will and can lock up his CDs.
What if he is a wanker or stole the CDs in the first
place? what if he stole them from someone who is a
wanker? What if he didnt like the CD and it is your
favorite CD? |
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