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| 2000/4/25 [Uncategorized] UID:18106 Activity:low |
4/24 http://www.bertisevil.com/bert035.htm - Curious in Cali \_ Adult Check ID required to see Bert in XXX scenes. |
| 2000/4/25-26 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:18107 Activity:high |
4/24 I'm having some computer troubles. I turn it on and for a second it
seems like it's booting up, but then it just stalls. The only thing I
did was attach a new fan. There are some more details and I don't
want to clutter the motd, so if you can help me out, mail me. Thanks.
-edhui
\_ Please include details. Put it in a /csua/tmp file is you want.
\_ Details in /tmp/edhui
\_> cat /tmp/edhui
> cat: /tmp/edhui: No such file or directory
\_ Details in /csua/tmp/edhui
\_ Your CPU is fried. K6-2's are notorious for being super-hot
chips (cf. Unreal). Next time, use thermal compound. Just a fan
\- GAME OVER, DUDE --psb
is never enough for that CPU.
\_ OK, then most likely I'll be replacing the CPU. What
exactly is thermal compound? -edhui
\_ Pasty stuff that sig. improves thermal conduction between
the heat sink of your fan and the surface of the CPU
die. At times it means the difference between
65 and 30 deg C die-surface temperature. Buy it
at Fry's.
\_ It should have come with your chip/fan. It probably
did and you threw it out.
\_ There's a teeny tiny itty bitty chance that you simply munged up
a cable connection when installing the fan. Pull the fan, check
all cables. Try again when CPU is cold. Do not ice. If it still
fails, then yeah, like the above says, your CPU is probably shot. |
| 2000/4/25-26 [Uncategorized] UID:18108 Activity:nil |
4/24 What is the equiv. of top for seeing io stats?
\_ iostat, vmstat
\_ stupid! you're not suppose to put anything useful in motd! |
| 2000/4/25-26 [Science/Electric] UID:18109 Activity:high |
4/24 Does anyone have an extra lego mindstorms motor that I could
borrow or buy? -dlwhite
\_ i think lego sells them for about 10-15 dollars.
\_ Where? I have seen packages that happen to have a motor
included, but never just a motor. If you know where I
could get just the motor, that would be great. -dlwhite
\_ goto http://www.lego.com/catalog
the interface blows ass, but the motor is there under the
Service tab
\_ "blows ass"... aaaah ... I see. Yet another charming
little phrase of today's youth. Nearly as fun and free
wheeling and lower class as "sucks ass". Does Cal have
a quota for trailer park trash?
\_ Ass.
\_ Uhm -- if you're so offended by the motd,
sanctimonious twit, don't read it. It's not a
difficult problem. Try growing up before posting
to the motd again -- either that or maybe you should
get permission from your mom.... |
| 2000/4/25-26 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:18110 Activity:very high |
4/24 Are there instructions on how to use the Java SSH client at
http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu/ssh - clueless
\_ got that right
\_ You need instructions on how to use this? This is a joke
right?
\_ OK - this is one of those cases like you're the only person that
hears any weird sounds coming from your car, but your mechanic doesn't
when you bring it to the shop. What happened was that when connected
to certain networks, say at work, the Java ssh client would not know
http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu, and return an error to that effect. Thus, the
cause for clueless-ness. However, on less prohibitive networks, say
at home via dial-up ISP provider or dsl, I have no problems, which
would invite a "got that right" comment. So, now another clueless
question is - does this ssh client run over http or another protocol?
Why does it work in some cases and not others? More than happy to read
all about ssh if you got a pointer/url, especially for this Java ssh
implementation. - Longer than necessary, clueless
\_ Well it runs ssh's network protocol, to port 22 on soda. Odds are
if its not connectin you're behind a tightwad firewall that blocks
outgoing tcp/22. -ERic
\_ You might also being having DNS troubles resolving names from
behind the firewall. I know Sun's firewall does wierd DNS hiding
and you need a super special ssh client to get out. - seidl
\_ might also try running ssh in verbose mode to gather clue |
| 2000/4/25-26 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:18111 Activity:nil |
4/25 Where can I get a Win32 version of "less", the cool UNIX text
file viewer?
\_ Cygwin.
\_ MORE! MORE! |
| 2000/4/25-26 [Computer/HW/IO] UID:18112 Activity:moderate |
4/25 I'm looking for a box that will let me use the same keyboard and
mouse on multiple machines - I was wondering if anyone has
seen one that supports the latest Logitech mice? (like the
Mouseman Wheel) - everything that I have seen so far only supports
very basic (microsoft) mice. Thanks! - mds
\_ The decent boxes from BlackBox should support everything.
The cheesy "four wires and a switch" boxes might not. -tom
\_ This is true. I bought this generic switch box from Fry's,
attempting to share keyboard / mouse between my PC and UNIX
station, but whenever I switch back to the UNIX box, the mouse
refuses to work until I unplug/replug the mouse cable.
\_ My company just bought some OmniView PRO 8-Port boxes by Belkin.
One box lets you connect the same keyboard, mouse (serial or PS/2)
and monitor to up to eight PCs. -- yuen
\_ I use several Omniview-PRO 8 ports in colocation sites. They
are very useful, and if you interconnect them you can manage
upto 64 machines from a single keyboard+monitor station.
KVM switches in general are often expensive, but the omniviews
look to be amon the cheapest. If you want to search out other
options, do a web search for KVM switch. Slashdot also had
an article not too long ago on KVM setups. -ERic
\_ raritan, cybex, nti --jon |
| 2000/4/25-27 [Health/Dental, Health/Women] UID:18113 Activity:very high |
4/25 Everyone watch 60 mins II tonight at 9 on ch 5 and watch their
report on Ecstasy. See my arch-nemisis emmanual sferios. -sky
\_ Just another media expose with the alarmist perspective
on alternative culture.
\_ Is he aware you're his arch nemesis? That seems unlikely.
\_ He is aware. He forced my gf to resign from her position
because she refused to break up with me. He was crying
and stuff and he also thinks I am out to destroy him.
--sky
\_ You're a psycho. That's the wildest shit I've heard on the
motd in over 3 days.
\_ Heh...most people do think I am psychotic. I prefer
it that way. But it is true. He told her in no
uncertain terms that if she didn't stop seeing me,
she would not be allowed to participate in dancesafe.
First off, he criticizes me for doing crystal, but
he did some before the 60 minutes interview because
it he feels it makes him more talkative and personable.
But he was also hurt because she had always put DS first
in her life and never had much of a life outside of
work until she met me. And he has a crush on her.
Then there are a whole other host of reasons I wont go
in to. -sky
\_ All 3 of you are way too far gone into the drugs.
Only some druggy fucks would behave like any of
you.
\_ It doesn't follow that because emmanuel is sky's arch-nemesis,
sky is emmanuel's arch-nemesis.
\_ What do you think "arch" means? Duh. --i386
\_ chief/principal. What do YOU think it means?
\_ lame-ass drug testing
\_ We know what it means, you don't. For example:
Bill Gates is Scott McNealy's Arch-Enemy, however
Bill Gates' arch-enemy is not SM, but Janet Reno
\_ Wow, you're all idiots. This was a joke.
\_ What's your issue with Sferios? The cop seems like more of a
bastard. -dans
\_ Wants to take away your drugs and put your dumb ass in jail?
\_ Drugs are bad, mmkay, don't do drugs. Do you think this
actually works? All my friends went through drug scare
education, and that didn't stop any of them from
getting into some serious shit. If they were taught
something sane, like abstaining from drugs is best, but, if
you're going to use, use responsibly, they would have been
saved from a world of grief. And if you think this is just
about drugs, it isn't. The biggest substance problems I've
seen are associated with alcohol, and hey, that's legal, so
it must be okay. Please. Drug scare education is insane
because there is no recourse when it fails, and it almost
always does. Locking people up doesn't work. Methods like
harm reduction that teach responsible use are far more
effective. Want living proof, look at sex-ed programs that
teach only abstinence versus programs that encourage
abstinence, but also teach about safer-sex. The bone-headed
communities that teach abstinence-only consistently have
higher rates of teen pregnancy and stds. -dans
\_ Don't put words in my mouth. I simply think you're a
whiney "make my drugs legal" cry baby.
\_ Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say anything
about legalization. I did say something about drug
scare education being about as intelligent as you
are. I simply think you're brainwashed reactionary.
-dans
\_ Which was a response to me saying your stupid
druggy ass belongs in jail, not in school.
\_ He is willing to jepoardize the collectives that supported him
in his quest to spread harm reduction. Plus he had a big
crush on my girlfriend and made her resign for not breaking
up with me. And he talks a lot of shit behind peoples backs
and lies and twists their words around as he sees fit. -sky
\_ Made her resign? Over you? Don't be ridiculous.
\_ She was the first dancesafe volunteer and one of
only a handful of salaried DS employees. Yes,
she had to resign for not breaking up with me.
He has issues, trust me. -sky
\_ I still question "had to resign". Or else what?
\_ Good answer. So, in your opinion, does that completely
taint DanceSafe, or is it still a worthwhile organization
to work with? -dans
\_ Well, he is the national director...There is no longer
a Bay Area chapter...it was disbanded after my gf left.
If you want to help spread harm reduction nationally,
then it is definately a worthwhile organization to
work with. If you would rather help practice and
spread harm reduction in the bay area, my gf is
organizing a group that will continue to do was the
ds bay area chapter did...distribute harm reduction
literature, answer questions, and do pill testing at
local raves and you might prefer working with her.
I have a big mouth...I really shouldn't talk shit
about him like this. Email me if you want to talk
about it more... -sky
\_ So you're an active supporter of kids doing only
moderate amounts of damage to themselves?
\_ Emanuel rocks. The war on drugs is expensive and completely
ineffective; harm reduction is the only rational answer.
There are a number of other groups involved with it, which 60
minutes choose not to mention (despite interviewing them). -kurtz
\_ I am all for harm reduction. But emanuel is willing to fuck
over the people who supported him (im not talking about me)
in order to achieve those goals. He is also a hypocritical,
delusional, arrogant, closed minded, meglomaniacal bastard.
But yeah, they didnt include their interview with Shulgin,
the national police consultant on dance drugs that supports
dancesafe and pill testing, or the Dutch Nat. drug prosecutor
supporting pill testing. And the dude that possibly took
5 pills and died most likely had DXM. Plus their was no
evidence given on ecstasy causing brain damage...All that
was shown was that overheating causes brain damage. Over-
heating is an effect of too much dancing/notenough water.
Even then, personally I think its not the E that causes
compulsive dancing (whatever that may be) but rather
speed that the E is mixed with. When I am rolling on
good MDMA, I can barely stand up, much less dance.
-sky
\_ You're just fucking whacked.
\_ You don't the half of it -sky
\_ Don't want to, either.
\_ update: emanuel is no longer my arch-nemisis. He asked my gf
back as ba director and blames switching from paxil to another
anti-depresant causing his OCD to flare up. -sky
\_ MDMA has been shown to cause permanent physical changes to
brain matter. (unlike many other drugs out there) Is this
damage? Well, it's not what nature intended, and I would
find it hard to believe that these changes would be for the
better. Simply because the piece didn't cite the evidence
doesn't mean it isn't there.
\_ The evidence is unclear with regards to normal usage
patterns -- the evidence for damage which I've seen used
either large or repeated doses. 60 minutes claimed
there's evidence that suggests permenant (discernable)
differences after a single dose, which contradicts the
studies which i've seen.
In addition, there is significant evidence that using
SRIs (prozac, zoloft, etc) 3-6 hours after dosing
can prevent damage. I've also read one study
\_ Heh, do you use SRIs when you take MDMA? Have
you ever seen people take SRIs after taking
MDMA? What is the optimum time frame vs. dosage
to take to avoid damage? This is all way to
experimental and the consequences too dire for
the average Joe messed up enough to actually
be in the drug scene to be playing with.
\_ I try to take prozac within 6 hours of dropping.
20 milligrams is best for most ppl. It depends
on how much u dropped and how regularly you do
mdma. --sky
\_ I have seen people using SRIs after using
MDMA. I wouldn't (and don't) say that
this makes it *safe* -- but I do believe,
based on the current evidence, that it is
likely to make it safer. Given that the
people I talk with about this are already
using MDMA on a regular basis, I don't
see any harm which can come from suggesting
that they try measures which appear --
based on current scientific evidence --
to be helpful.
The useful timeframe is 3-6 hours after
dosing. In animal studies, this prevents
all toxicity.
So far, there is little evidence of dire
consequences in terms of behavior or other
areas. New studies may change that, though;
I have seen individual case histories
where extremely high doses may have been
related to *serious* problems. I always
tell people not to do high doses.
indicating that only one of the two isomers is the one
responsible for the neurotoxicity -- I don't think
it's easy or cheap to produce just one isomer, but it
might be possible given sufficient economic incentive.
Anyway, these suggest that if MDMA were legal, it
\_ Uh, hello logic? How does this suggest anything
of the sort?
\_ Simple. Chemically it seems that it may be
possible to have the high without
neurotoxicity. If it were legal, I think
there'd be quite an incentive to provide
it in form which wouldn't be neurotoxic.
Right now, there isn't.
might well be possible to make it much less harmful
(beyond the simple measure of making sure it isn't
mixed w/ DXM, etc.).
MDMA may well be harmful even with low and infrequent
doses -- it is certainly possible, and caution is in
order -- but alarmism is no better than blindly
ignoring evidence of danger.
I have some references available, btw -- I believe in
providing information about this, since there are real
dangers which users should be made aware of. I think
that providing false information will make users ignore
the very real dangers. -- kurtz
\_ What false information are you referring to here?
Some studies have shown neurological changes
after a single dose. Perhaps these studies were
flawed, but who knows? The point is that MDMA
\_ Reference, please? I'd like to see the study
which demonstrates long term neurological
changes after a single dose. I can
find you a study which shows no observable
differences whatsoever after a single dose.
\_ OK I'll call your bluff. Can you please
show me that study that shows no observable
differences after a single dose. - tpc
is a neurotoxin and that message is not out there.
People are making irreversible changes to their
brains and they can't know what the consequences
will be. (I believe studies are showing no
recovery in the affected tissue 7 years out
at this point)
\_ What studies are you referring to? That a TV
news magazine airs a soundbyte saying that
"Studies have shown that a single does of
MDMA can cause brain damage" is pretty weak
proof. Show me the study(ies).
\_ A study by George Ricuarte of John Hopkins
found that in lab rats and 2 human subjects
that MDMA can cause long term damage to the
terminals of seratonin-releasing nerves.
Keeping the rats body temps down protected
them from the neurotoxicity. Some ppl think
that in the presence of MDMA, the super oxide
and hydroxy radicals combine with extra
seratonin and when this molecule is neurotoxic
when reabsorbed into the cell. Heat speeds up
this reaction. SRI's are absorbed into the
cells instead of these molecules which is one
explanation why SRIs help prevent nerve
damage. --sky
\_ There was a Navy study that proved
using the Dvorak keyboard users could
see significantly more productivity. - tpc
\_ Hence, the need to see the study. If
you actually read the Dvorak studies,
it's pretty clear that a) they used
flawed methodology, and b) The dude
conducting the study had a vested
interest in it going the way it did.
\_ The message is definitely out there -- the
media always refers ecstacy it as a drug
associated with potentially serious
neurotoxicity. But the way it's being presented
is ineffective -- IMO because it is not a
balanced treatment. (How could it be, given
that it's intended as a scare tactic?)
\_ I don't really care if users ignore the real
dangers. Sometimes dead is better. A state
sponsored cremation and dumping is cheaper for
society than having these wastoids walking around.
\_ there was a man in Germany who was really Austrian
who was trying to do what you were saying.
\_ MDMA is closely related to methamphetamines (chemically
speaking, MDMA can be derived from some methamphetamines,
iirc) -- it causes the release of two of the same
neurotransmitters (dopamine and norepinephrine), so
it will have some of the same effects.
\_ MDMA causes the release of seratonin and
dopamine. The level of dopamine released is
insignificant in comparison to the amount
released by methamphetamine. Meth also causes
an increase in endorphin (adrenalin/
norepinephrine) production, which doesn't occur
with MDMA. Dopamine causes the euphoric feeling
associated with crystal, while endorphin
accounts for the increased level of energy.
--sky
\_ Um, you've got dopamine and endorphins
mixed up (endorphins cause euphoria,
dopamine causes 'energy', ie. it is a
stimulant). I don't know about the
relative amounts, but the papers I've
read suggest they're not insignificant.
Btw -- MDMA does also cause the release of
norepinephrine. But speed doesn't trigger
the release of endorphins -- heroin does.
Some info about amphetamines:
<DEAD>www.pharmcentral.com/stimulants.htm<DEAD>
Some info about norepinephrine & MDMA:
http://www.doitnow.org/pages/360.html
\_ Fuckin' a, man. I just drink beer. It's easier. If somebody tells
me "beer is bad for you", I just say "okay". I don't have to get a
graduate degree in biochemistry to argue with people why beer might
just *possibly* be more or less worse for me if I drink it at a
certain body temperature while using a combination of other drugs.
Like, mellow out, everyone.
\_ "Beer: the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."
-- Homer Simpson
Wow. A whole *herd* of emacs users must have been here. |