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| 2000/4/23-24 [Uncategorized] UID:18085 Activity:high |
4/22 Can someone please post the most frequently asked Taos interview
questions? Thanks. -joe
\_ Dont worry. If you know any UNIX and are reasonably normal
they'll make you an offer.
\_ will you work for 17.50 an hour?
\_ You should get offered about twice that, or more DOE
\_ Not at Taos you won't
\_ I did with limited experience. What's your problem?
\_ don't sell yourself short, work for MindSource (http://www.mindsrc.com |
| 2000/4/23-24 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:18086 Activity:insanely high |
4/22 Ultra 10 440Mhz UltraSparc-IIi, 256MB DRAM, 2MB L2 Cache, 9GB disk,
floppy,cdrom,Creator3D Graphics,keybd/mouse/etc. for $3200 brand new
from Sun. Thinking of buying one, for personal use. What do you think?
\_ I'm so pleased that you asked. This machine gets 18.1 SPECint95,
22.7 SPECfp95. For $3500, you could get a dual
Pentium-III/750E, which gets something like 36 SPECint95 per CPU,
256M of memory, an Nvidia GEFORCE 32M video card, a DVD drive,
27G of disk, and a decent 19" monitor.
check out http://langmuir.eecs.berkeley.edu/~peterm/BB.txt
--PeterM
\_ I thought that Windows98 does not support MP.
\_ We won't runn Windows on it. Windows 98 is so that I
can install Winblows on another machine. --PeterM
\_ But you're running winblows 98 on it. EEEUUUWWWWWWW.
\_ No, you're running an OS that has useful applications that
are fully compatible with the applications your clients,
customers and other business partners have. Nothing else
matters.
\_ 1 256MB DIMM instead of 2 128's.. really.. you're going to
want the free slots. Ditch the SuperMicro and PIII and get
a K7V and Athlon 850 for less. Ditch Win98. Everything
else looks perfect.
\_ AMD doesn't do SMP. We can get more CPU power in less
space by going dual. Had AMD gotten out a dual K7 chipset
which worked well, my config. would have used K7. --PeterM
\_ please sign your name so l33t sodans can belittle you.
\_ Don't get an Athlon. Sheesh. At least wait until the
'Thunderbird' chips are out in a month. Lamer. Stop
Giving out the generic 'kewl' advice on the motd when you
giving out the generic 'kewl' advice on the motd when you
obviously have no idea wtf you're talking about.
\_ The Thunderbirds won't be out in a month. What was that
about having no clue what you're talking about?
\_ Athlons are out of stock most places now anyway.
\_ That was the last announced timeline. You know
better than post the URL or fuck off. Either way
it doesn't matter. A K7 is stupid choice right
now.
\_ Because it's faster and cheaper?
\_ No SMP. Loses ground at higher speeds due to
1/3rd speed cache. !/4th speed at 1ghz. And
because it has compatibility problems that
Intel's chips don't have. And because a
dual P3 will be cheaper *and* faster *and*
run all your software without compatibility
fears with a modern, non-beta motherboard.
How's that?
\_ Wait until summer when Sun releases the UltraSparc III workstations
and slashes prices on the older Ultras.
\_ Good. Another question, will SUN stop using those crappy video
chipsets with 4MB of ram and crappy IDE controllers with no
UDMA support both of which are obsolete even by PC laptop
standards?
\_ To be fair, the SuperMicro MB doesn't support UDMA or
4X AGP. Intel is lagging on the chipsets. The BX is still
a high-perf. Intel chipset though. --PeterM |
| 2000/4/23-24 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:18087 Activity:high |
4/22 Do they allow laptops on airplanes? can I use one when it is in
the air?
\_ yes, but they have this ridiculous rule about not allowing
them to be used in takeoff or landing. they also have a
stupid rule not allowing radio recievers during flight since
they might "disrupt" radio communications and cause a plane
to fall out of the sky. obviously the faa doesn't know the
first thing about electrical engineering. either that or
they're just assuming that most flight attendants are too
stupid to distinguish between an fm radio and a bomb
\_ this stupid rule of theirs has always pissed me off
\_ Yeah, not crashing the plane or delaying take off
because every fucking idiot insists that *his* 2-way radio
is airplane safe is really stupid. Grow up.
\_ Yes. Why dont you call your airline and ask to make sure?
\_ Yes they do, but they ask you not to use CD/DVD drives. -John |
| 2000/4/23-24 [Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:18088 Activity:high |
4/22 Does using arrow keys instead of "hjkl" make me a wonnabe vi user?
\_ No but mispelling "wannabe" makes you ... something.
\_ i used to use arrow keys, but then noticed that auto-repeat on
arrow keys is much slower, so i switched to hjkl. this was back
in the 2400 baud modem days, when sending "^[[C" was noticeably
slower than sending "l". so, if you have a 2400, then yes, you
are a wannabe. if not, the answer depends on what's in your
.exrc. -ali
Trim, don't nuke.
\_ NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! I'M A BIG BABY AND ANYTIME THE MOTD HAS STUFF
I DONT LIKE IM GOING TO NUKE THE WHOLE THING JUST BECAUSE I CAN!
I CANT TAKE IT WHEN ANYONE DISAGREES WITH ME SO I DESTROY AND
CENSOR EVERYTHING EVEN THOUGH IM KILLING GOOD STUFF TOO!!!!!!!!!! |
| 2000/4/23-24 [Recreation/Food/Alcohol, Recreation/Food] UID:18089 Activity:insanely high |
4/22 What good restaurants in SF do people recommend?
\- is this a serious question? are you looking for "deals"
or the best restaurants in town? taqueria san jose ($5)is a
good deal. acquarello is the best italian place in town ($100)
and pastis is a nice place in the middle ($50). there's a
start. --psb
\_ Cha Cha Cha on haste is really good cuban/jamacan food,
on Haste near golden gate park. Long lines and no reservations,
however, so go on a weekday. The best Ice Cream is Joe's Old
Fashoned Ice Cream on 18th and Geary. -nweaver
\_ How about "Thirsty Bear" on Howard/Hawthorne? Does anyone have
any commments on that place?
\- is this a serious question? are you looking for "deals"
or the best restaurants in town? taqueria san jose ($5)is a
good deal. acquarello is the best italian place in town ($100)
and pastis is a nice place in the middle ($50). there's a
start. --psb
\_ Italian in Northern California sucks compared to the stuff
you can get on the east coast, which, in turn, sucks
compared to the stuff you can get in Italy. -dans
\-have you been to acquarello? otherwise what is the
relevance? i think this generalization usually applies
most to low to medium "end" places. --psb
\_ this coming from a man who thinks House Of Nanking is
the best Chinese in SF.
\_ Cha Cha Cha on haste is really good cuban/jamacan food,
on Haste near golden gate park. Long lines and no reservations,
however, so go on a weekday. The best Ice Cream is Joe's Old
people's place. Food is best when it's a communal experience.
Fashoned Ice Cream on 18th and Geary. -nweaver
\_ a second Cha Cha Cha's has opened in the Mission,
same food without the lines
\_ no way, man! Mitchell's on Guerrero.
\_ House of Nanking. IMHO, the best Chinese food in SF. The
\_ Bwahaha! Maybe cuz yer gwailow.
ambiance isn't too great (i.e. non-existent), but the food more
than makes up for it. Afterwards, wander (literally) around the
corner to Little Italy(i.e. North Beach), and get desert at The
Steps of Rome (overly trendy, always busy, but tasty). Stop at
City Lights bookstore on the way if you so desire. Makes for a
nice evening out. -dans
\_ Sucker! You enjoy standing in line to get herded into a cramped
little hole that serves shitty, bland, tastes of generic sauces
food? Look at the crowd sometime. Notice how it is 100% white.
there is a reason. HoN may once have been good, I dunno. But
if so that was a LONG time ago.
\_ Name something better. Have a cookie, troll. While you're
at it, sign yer name, twink. -dans
\_ I like seeing trolls like dans use my "have a
cookie line". Gives me the warm fuzzies all over.
Tinglies up my spine. --fellow troll
P.S. I like cramped dining. You get to eat off of other
peoples' plates. Food is best when it's a communal experience.
And even though your statement about the crowd being 100%
white is flat out wrong, it doesn't carry much weight? What,
white folks aren't allowed to have good taste in food?
\-Eric's chinese, an otherwise pretty good restaurant,
totally screwed up a dish once and when an associate of
mine inquired was told "white people like it that way"
[this was clearly a fuckup ... there was so much pepper
in the dish, nobody could possibly "like it that way.
although the conversation took place in chinese, given
that 3/6 people at the table were white, you had to
wonder if the staff person thought the "explanation"
would not be translated for whitey]. --psb
\-Eric's Chinese, ton kiang. --psb
\_ let me guess, you are from Orange County aren't you?
\_ My Chinese friends told me that my taste in Chinese food
is like that of white folks. What does that mean?
They seem to think that this is funny. - confused Chinese
\_ You have lousy taste in food. Take the hint.
--white boy who prefers real chinese food
\_ re: Thirsty Bear. It's a tapas bar/brew pub. The food is ok and
reasonably priced; the beer is quite good (esp. their wheat beer).
It's now a SoMa hang out, so it's very crowded Thurs-Sat eve. |
| 2000/4/23-24 [Computer/SW/Mail] UID:18090 Activity:high |
4/23 Which of the standard console mail utils support POP without
fetchmail's help?
\_ mutt is the only one you need. -tom
\_ So how do you get mutt to support POP?
\_ RTFM. -tom
\_ Which particular FM? grepping man page for POP yields nil
\_ So how do you get RTFM to support POP?
\_ nmh
\_ mutt is the only one you need. -tom
\_ So how do you get mutt to support POP?
\_ RTFM. -tom
\_ So how do you get RTFM to support POP?
\_ nmh |
| 2000/4/23-25 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18091 Activity:very high |
4/23 The must-have O'Reilly nutshell book
http://www.ora.com/catalog/evilgenius
\_ Have you showered or had sex at anytime in the last 15 years?
Have you learned to use the TAB key, yet? Acquired the smallest
shreds of a sense of humor, maybe? Keep working at it.
\_ Do the books have new stuff are they just the online stuff in
book form?
\_ the online stuff. But this is worth the $12 just to show
the genuine o'reilly title on your bookshelf :-)
\_ Worth it if you're tripping all over yourself to show people
that you're a total fucking loser geek, I guess. I'm sure it
fits nicely in that blank space on your bookshelf right
between the English-Klingon dictionary and the binder that
holds your lovlingly xeroxed SCA guide on how to make your
\_ KA'BAH! You want 'The Tragedy of Khamlet,
Son of the Emperor Qo'nos', by
Wil'yam Shax'pir.
holds your lovingly xeroxed SCA guide on how to make your
own armor.
\_ umm, user friendly is like hte definition of not funny
\_ I tried to read it a few times. It was a waste. I've
since purged my mind of the unpleasantness.
\_ it's amazing how many non-UNIX folks still manage to aquire,
and then use, soda accounts. Or maybe you just feel offended
that iliad could dare make fun of the Open/Net/FreeBSD
wars.
\_ ANY student enrolled in UC Berkeley may apply and receive
csua membership and an account on the machine at soda.csua
- paolo
\_ Paolo, read the CSUA FAQ for once in your life:
1. How do I get a soda account?
Soda accounts are ONLY for members of the CSUA. The CSUA is not an
account provider -- we are an organization for people with an
members of the ASUC may be active (voting) members, but other
eligible folks are welcome to participate in CSUA activites and
make use of our resources. We expect our members to be at least
somewhat computer literate, and to have an interest in learning
and experimenting. Because of that, and the fact that our staff
are all volunteers, we don't serve the users in the same way
someplaces like the OCF does. This doesn't mean soda is
especially unreliable or uncared for, it just means we expect
people to be better able to fend for themselves.
that iliad could dare make fun of the Open/Net/FreeBSD
wars.
interest in computers and computer science. Any U.C. Berkeley
living everyday thanking Tourvalds.
student, faculty, or staff is eligible to become a member. Only
\_ thank you for agreeing with me
\_ user friendly is about as funny as being stuck in a
room with a bunch of soft, puffy, geeks who last
showered in '93 and keep parrotting bits from monty
python and hitchhicker's guide. -aspo
\_ Dude, these are the sort of people who wrote the OS
you run, the networking protocols you indirectly
make a living off of. So they can't all be rectally
fixated biker studs like you. Go hangout with your
well-adjusted loser friends and leave the geeks alone.
\_ well for one I don't do ecommerce crap. Networking
protocols don't have anything to do with what I do
for a living. And yay. So a bunch of smelly,
need-to-die geeks have written a bunch of computer
software. Some of that software is worth using.
%99.99 percent of it is as much crap as the worthless
lives of the sad little sexless acne-scarred twits
who wrote it. -aspo
\_ What the fuck are you doing on soda, you evil
little twit?
\_ Uh, yeah, tell me more about "Illiad", uber-hacker
extraordinaire. Perhaps Illiad was an early member
of the CSRG, responsible for most of 2BSD? Or maybe
Illiad stood at the shoulder of timid young newbie
hacker Richard Stallman, making gentle suggestions
that would later form a life philosophy? Or did he
write one of those Johhny-come-lately "DUD3, L1NUX
1Z WAY K-RAD!!!1!!" 10-dimensional 76-bit-color
window managers that you wannbe-UNIX-folk are always
so fond of arguing over? Real men use twm. And
they don't read User Friendly.
\_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD!
\_ so geeks, wrote the OS, they have fame and they have $$$. I'm not
living everyday thanking Tourvalds, Behlendorf, and Ylonen.
\_ It's likely I was a "UNIX folk" when you were still in
grade school. I find the comic to be painfully unfunny
because it simply lacks any form of humor. It just isn't
funny and not in the Berkeley, "How many lesbians does it
take?" way.
\_ Ah. I see your problem is just that you're an old
curmugeon, who has already heard every joke in existance,
back in 1950.
Yes, there are stupid ones. But only about 1%.
\_ http://www.sluggy.com is much more amusing.
\_ sluggy is just as bad.
\_ <DEAD>www.spacemoose.com<DEAD> is much more amusing.
\_ http://www.chick.com is much more amusing.
\_ http://www.mycomix.com to choose for yourself.
\_ http://www.jerkcity.com is better than stoned gay sex.
\_ http://hotzp.com/badboys/archives/021900.html
\_ BBoCS!
\_ http://www.yomomma.com
\_ http://http://www.angryflower.com is better than flying fetuses |
| 2000/4/23-24 [Uncategorized] UID:18092 Activity:moderate |
4/23 http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~summerm \_ Bwahahahahah \_ Sure, I guess. |
| 2000/4/23-24 [Computer/Networking] UID:18093 Activity:very high |
4/23 So, talk to me about TCP/IP stack implementations. Under what type
of attack will a linux tcp/ip stack fail but a bsd one survive? (
something about the number of bits in a field)
\_ None.
\_ Wrong.
\_ care to elaborate on either? What data structures are messed up
in such away to allow for a buffer overrun? Since the tcp stack sends
tcpRST on packets going to a port not in use, and drops the rest
how can you get by that? Seems to me the worst you can do is DOS the
box. - Show me why I'm wrong.
\_ Care to pay my consulting fees?
\_ this is as silly as asking when will emacs fail but vi survive.
there are different, valid beliefs on how a system should
react to and cope with pathological loads. |
| 2000/4/23 [Uncategorized] UID:18094 Activity:nil |
4/22 [elian discussion killed due to redundancy. everyone talks about
it everywhere. talk about something else.] |