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2000/4/19-20 [Transportation/Car] UID:18047 Activity:kinda low
4/19    ME question. What is the difference between an engine of different
        styles but of the same volume displacement.  Like, what is the
        difference between a 3.0 liter inline-4 and a 3.0 liter inline-6.
        How is 6 cylinder better than 4 in terms of performance and
        efficiency?  Same question for a 3.0 liter inline-6 vs. a 3.0
        liter V-6.
        \_ The smaller the engine, the more efficient.  The larger the engine,
           the more powerful.  Therefore the most efficient engine doesn't
           exist and the most powerful would fill the universe.
        \_ More cylinders == higher revving.  Fewer cylinders == more torque.
          \_ ???? The Honda S2000 is a 4 cylinder that revs very very high.
             What are you smoking ? -eric
          \_ Fewer cylinders does NOT give you more torque.
          \_ For the same engine size, it tends to.  Look at twin bikes.
                \_ RIDE BIKE!
        \_ and where do valves come in?
                \_ In the engine compartment, normally installed at factory.
        \_ This is all wrong.  Fewer cylidners means higher revving because
           there is less rotational mass in the camshaft, valve lifters, etc.
           4 vs. 6 vs. 8 and inline vs. V refers to the stagger of the pistons
           and firing orders, etc.  So you get different power strokes per
           rotation of the cam.  The 8 will be smoother and deliver more
           power strokes per rotation.  The 4 can produce similar power but
           demands higher RPMs to do so.  If you had an inline 8, then the
           camshaft would lift 2 cylinders at a time, in 45 degree increments
           which means any 2 would be at the bottom, half-up, half-down, and
           about to fire...it makes no sense.  You could fire 4 together but
           there would be a long compression stroke with no power delivery.
           This is the kind of stuff that V, inline, 4, 6, 8 determines...
           Not horsepower.  Horsepower is purely determined by the surface
           area of the piston getting shoved down...the bigger the piston,
           the better except for mass and interia...it all balances out.
2000/4/19-22 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:18048 Activity:moderate
4/19    Raid storage.  WHere Can i buy 100 GB of NT accessible raid storage?
        \_ Go buy 100 GB of disk and use the built in disk manager.
        \_ Metastor
        \_ http://www.3ware.com
        \_ http://www.netapp.com
        Sorry, i should have been clearer.  Ok, what is needed is a isp/
        service which will provide 100 GB of storage on a raid online,
        accessible via nt shares.  Currently I'm paying $70/Gig with very
        slow bandwidth - anyone know of anything better.
        \_ Well duh!  The internet is slow - if you need speed, get local
           storage.  (What internet connection do you have?  DSL?
           something else equally pathetic?)
        \_ Rent cage space at Exodus Communications or AboveNet.
        \_ This sounds incredibly stupid.  Take your $7000/month payment for a
           few months, buy a cheap PC with NT & 200 GB disk and get much better
           performance, much better security (SMB over the open net? the
           horrorr...), and save a big bundle of money in the long run.
           \_ sounds like paolo
2000/4/19-21 [Consumer/PDA, Consumer/CellPhone] UID:18049 Activity:low
4/19    The programming crew is getting new 19" monitors.  Any thoughts on
        the following, or recommendations?  Thanks ...
        Eizo FX-D7      Mitsuibishi Diamond Pro 900u    NEC FP 950
        Iiyama VisionMaster Pro 450     MAG 800v        LG 995E
        \_ Liked my Iiyama until the tube went fitz and they didnt fix it
           properly.
        \_ Mag sucks.  Get a Sony 400PS, excellent picture + reliable.
           \_ i dont think they make the PS anymore.. the Sony G400
                 is much nicer than the 400PS ever was.  -shac
        \_ Though it isn't on the list, I have a viewsonic g790 that has
           been excellent.  The only caveat is that I have not had it all
           that long, about 9 months.
        \_ Do Eizo's still have syncing / settings problems? The old Nanaos
           I've used tend to forget my prior custom settings when I change
           resolutions.
        \_ Cheap bastards.  Don't settle for anything less than 21".
2000/4/19-20 [Uncategorized] UID:18050 Activity:moderate
4/18    stupidity deleted
           \_ question is, how do you log finger attempts to you?
                \_ People still use finger?  Who cares?
                \_ this is by far the more useful question - i know at the
                ocf you used to have fingerlog information. anyone
                know how this was implemented?
                \_ We hacked the finger source.  -alan-
                \_ roll your own
                \_ finger blojo.securityhole
                                         \_ ooh!
              \_ Something like making .plan a pipe and having a script listen
                 to it.  I think achoi showed me how to do it.  -- yuen
                        \_ Doesn't work if your home dir is NFS mounted or
                           your system's finger is smart enough to only open
                           real files for .plans.  (If the program on the other
                           end of the pipe dies, you'll end up with lots of
                           hung finger & fingerd processes).
2000/4/19-20 [Academia/StanfUrd] UID:18051 Activity:nil
4/18    Found an mpeg of Ian Goldberg's talk at stanford:
        http://stanford-online.stanford.edu/courses/EE380/000412-ee380-100.asx
2000/4/19-20 [Reference/Law, Politics/Foreign] UID:18052 Activity:high
4/20    On Monday April 24, two cyberspace and intellectual property
        specialists from Australia, Brian and Anne Fitzgerald, will be
        visiting Berkeley and giving a talk on recent developments in
        software intellectual property law in Australia.  They are both
        very smart and charming people, and I think you'll find it very
        stimulating to hear what they have to say about issues we've been
        studying through the lenses of another advanced industrial
        economy's laws.  The event will be at 4pm in Rm 124 of Boalt Hall
        (which is on Bancroft near Piedmont).  Hope to see you there.
        \_ Another advanced industrial country?  But you said they're from
           Australia.  I'm confused.  Are they from an advanced industrial
           nation or not?
           \_ Many words for dumb joke.
                \_ What joke?  huh?
                   \_ Redundant
2000/4/19-20 [Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:18053 Activity:moderate
4.19    this is not a troll, but a question about "clue".  Since UCI
        offers the trade-school version of cs (i.e. a class on sysadmining,
        a class on c++, java, a couple of lectures on how to use vi) would
        you argue that the average UCI ICS student has more "clue" than
        a average berkeley EECS/CS student? - paolo
        \_ what is "clue"? --jon
          \_ you havre been eaten by a grue.
           \_ The clue that can be told is not the Clue. - laotzu
                        \_ if you have to ask, you don't know
                \_ clue has nothing to do with what you learned in school. -tom
                   \_ That's silly, clue can be learned in school.
                        \_ But clue cannot be taught - it must develop on it's
                                own.
                \_ wrong.  clue has very little to do with knowledge.  -tom
           \_ What is diff btw "clue" and "Clue"?
              \_ clue == open source, Clue == commercial
                 \_ I don't get it -- is this like sendmail(.org) and
                    Sendmail, Inc.?
                    \_ oh.my.god.
                        \_ Wonder when they'll have a .god TLD and I can start
                           my own net.religion?
                \_ Clue(TM) is a trademark of Milton Bradley.
        \_ good question paolo. UCB trains you to kick ass in GRE,
           do well in grad school, and get a good position in academia.
           UCI trains you to kick ass in repetitive industrial jobs that
           pay XXXX dollars. Dropping out in UCB =~ UCI. Dropping out in
           UCI =~ dumb ass. At any rate, both schools train you to have
           clue in two very different world.
           \_ I read "UCB OS, Compiler, and Theory in 21 Days" and now I'm
              getting a Phd in Caltech!                 -ali #1 fan
        \_ Knowing how to use vi is not clue.  Knowing why & when to use vi
                is clue.  Teach that at UCI they do not.
                        \- teaching vi in this day and age is insane. --psb
                                \_ using emacs in any day and age is insane.
                                   \_ Yeah, but can vi do Towers of Hanoi?
                                   \_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD!  Text editor.
                           \_ teaching any editor is stupid. if you need to
                              be taught the editor, you need a new editor.
                              \_ No, you need a new clue.
2000/4/19-20 [Computer/SW] UID:18054 Activity:nil
4/18    Does anyone know how to get Netshow to save an asf file for
        faster/later viewing?
        \_ Just download porn from the net.  It's easier.
2000/4/19-20 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:18055 Activity:nil
4/18    Hi, I'm looking for a site that has compiled sun binaries like
        trn, screen, etc.  Not standard GNU stuff.  All I can find are
        FreeBSD or Linux binaries for the stuff I want.  Thanks.
        \_ http://www.sunfreeware.com
        \_ http://www.sun.com/bigadmin
2000/4/19-20 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:18056 Activity:kinda low
4/18    winNT question:  everytime my NT stations boots up it sets up the
        local hard drives as shareable.  I have to manually set each drive
        as not shared.  Where can I set this so that I don't have to do that
        everytime I reboot the box? Thanks.
        \_ Delete the shares.
        \_http://www.ntfaq.com/ntfaq/network21.html
        \_ I have heard rumors about a commercial package existing that fixes
           some of the most stupid and glaring NT holes, including this one.
           I don't recall what it's named, though.  Also, I'm told by one
           of my NT-admin colleagues that there are some tools in one of the
           NT accessory discs you get with an MSDN subscription which let
           you fix this en masse.  Or you can just edit the registry.  -John
2000/4/19-20 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:18057 Activity:high
4/18    How does one print bold characters to the terminal?  Specifically,
        is there any way to do it from a shell script command such as
        echo or printf?
        \_ The code on most terminals is <ESC>[1m. To stop bold, use
           <ESC>[0m. To input "<ESC>" from a modern shell, use ^V-Esc.
           [1mHere[0m is an example (will not work under less; use
           cat or head to view the motd to get the effect). -alexf
        \_ man tput. Then look for examples, because it will be
           incomprehensible to a termcap newbie.
        \_ ~ali/discourage.c is an example. you get the "make it bold"
           character from termcap then echo it. -ali
2000/4/19-20 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Functional] UID:18058 Activity:nil
4/18    Does anyone remember the name of the professor and/or grad student
        that had that statistical matching program to look for copied code
        in assignments?  Can someone point me to where i might find more
        information about the program itself or the algorithm used...
        Thank you.
        \_ thought it was Prof. Tom Anderson
        \_ It's MOSS by Alex Aiken. Digital Integrity
           (<DEAD>www.digital-integrity.com<DEAD> is his startup based on the ideas of
           MOSS. They recently created http://www.findsame.com as an example of what
           they can do. Ugly interface, kind of cool technology.
                \_ Ah yes, once again tax dollars being used and abuse for
                   yet more personal gain.
        \_ see also http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~aiken/moss.html
2000/4/19-20 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:18059 Activity:nil
4/18    Looking for recomendations for laptop bags. Let's say, less than
        $150; but if there is a convincing reason to go higher, i will.
        Thanks.
        \_ I have an old IBM one I really like, but most people find them
           too bulky (I carry loads of stuff.)  Port makes some pretty
           robust bags, but they don't have a lot of compartments.  -John
        \_ Just go to Macy's.  Tumi.
2000/4/19-20 [Computer/SW/OS/Misc, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:18060 Activity:nil
4/18    Does anyone know how to configure vxWorks to boot using bootp
        instead of ftp or rsh? URL is fine. BTW, I'm using Sol2.6/2.7
        as my bootp server.
        \_ do you just want to configure or are you a code developer?
           How about using "vwman" or read the manual?  Perhaps change
           the boot parameters too?
        \_ Set the flags (f) option in the bootrom to 0x40.
           It is a bitfield, so if you have other options that you
           want to keep you have to OR them together. See section 2.5.4
           of Tornado User's Guide -- daveh (david.holloway@windriver.com)
        \_ Yes, someone knows.
2000/4/19-20 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:18061 Activity:nil
4/18    Is there a Perl-DBI for dos/Windows9x machines?
        \_ yes
            \_Great.  Where can i get it?
                \_ Install/use activestate perl.  http://www.activestate.com
        \_ perl dbi is the database package right?  I know there are really
           easy to use perl to odbc libs that are standard.  Maybe that is
           perl DBI?  I dunno.  Been too long.  Thank god I don't know this
           crap anymore.
2000/4/19-20 [Politics/Domestic] UID:18062 Activity:high
4/19    http://www.techlawjournal.com/educ/20000415.htm
        Somebody fire this dumbass. More realistically, go write your
        congressman.
        \_ Even better, please fire this interviewer.  He doesn't know how to
           ask good questions.  Even better than that!  Just write /. instead of
           the full URL you moron.
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