2/18 Does anybody here know if there are any inherent advantages
to fighting with a weapon in each hand vs a single weapon?
Or is that just a hollywoodism?
\_ Guns or swords?
\_ I was thinking more in terms of swords/clubs/tonfa/sais etc.
I've seen a lot of crap extolling the virtues of both one-
handed styles and two handed styles, and was wondering if
anyone out there had training and an opinion....
\_ For 2 swords at least, it's called "Florentine style".
\_ You keep your two sais. I'll keep my two .38's or my
one .45. We'll start at 10 paces and see what happens.
\_ In wooden weapon fighting, with two swords, I kicked ass
over anyone with a single weapon. The exception was
one guy who was *very* good with a spear. (and long-ass arms)
I just barely managed to edge him out in the competition.
Summary: It's good to be able to independantly block
AND attack at the same time.
\_ What kind of swords were you using?
\_ chinese curved wooden practice ones.
\_ was this SCA? Were there any restrictions on
the type of strokes allowed? I've heard that
AND attack at the same time.
the SCA doesn't count sword-point based moves.
\_ .45
\_ The standard. Handgun caliber.
\_ 9mm is the standard caliber for both Army
and law enforcement, dumbass. (though I think
the FBI uses a cut-down 10mm) As for the idea
of a 'standard' pistol (I assume that's what
you mean by 'handgun' -- as opposed to a
submachine gun) caliber -- get a clue. There
hasn't been anything approaching a standard
caliber for pistols for about 100-150+ years --
you know...since the old west. Fuckwit.
\_ The beretta is not a real gun. It choked on
politics, .45ACP is about reliably killing people.
sand in the Desert Storm, and people brought out
the old 1911's that worked. 9mm is about NATO
politics,.45ACP is about reliably killing people.
You don't want to get into this argument with me.
\_ Right on! A man with clue! I didn't claim
the beretta was a good gun -- it's merely the
\_ .45
\_ What kind of competition? Don't people get seriously
hurt?!?
\_ The point is to hurt your enemy and save yourself.
\_ If I was to have a "competition" with the
people in my school, someone would end up
either dead or severely injured. Unless you
got to wear lots of pads and had lots of rules
about where you could strike. - mikeym
\_ It takes a lot of practice to effectively manage a 2 front
attack, but it can be very challenging to deal with if
you've only got 1 thing to defend with. That's why I say
attack with 5 things at the same time (limbs + head).
\_ My experience with swords: if you use a sword two-handed
you can use the leverage between your hands to get a lot
-- mikeym
more speed and power. Your blocks are also much stronger
when you use a sword two-handed, and there's all kinds of
cool stuff you can do with one sword if you use it one-
handed and put the other hand against the back. Using a sword
one-handed gives you extra reach, and using two swords
lets you parry with one. I personally think that if
you're going to use two swords it's best to use one long
and one short so you can operate at different ranges.
I only have experience with Japanese swords, though.
E-mail me for more if you want. -- mikeym
\_ I just remembered something. If your opponent is wearing
armor, I think that two-handed is better, because your
strikes are much more powerful. -- mikeym
\_ The katana and wakasahi(sp?) are excellent tools, but
rarely were they used at the same time. Usually, the
wakasahi was used in close quarters or when your katana
was otherwise unavailable. There is a famous story of a
samurai who did fight with 2 katanas and did quite
well. Perhaps we should hold an experiment.
\_ I think that in general, they used one sword for
duels. When they did use two swords at once, it was
normally in combat with many people. However, I have
seen one-on-one practices where one person uses
both the long and short swords at once. -mikeym
'standard'. It just bugs me to see some
little snipe trying to be clever about
something he's TOTALLY clueless about. |