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| 2000/2/10 [Uncategorized] UID:17476 Activity:moderate |
2/9 Any comments on Sun Ray 1 appliances?
\_ I think it's a decent but not fantastic name for marketing
purposes. |
| 2000/2/10 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17477 Activity:high |
2/9 Informal survey: I love
-ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD! Informal survey. 2
-yermom nightly backup
-psb 0
-tom 0
-my large breasts 1
-tjb 1
-"the greedy regents" -33333
-perky breasts 1
-twm 0
-fvwm 1
-fvwm95 0
-afterstep 1
-gnome -2
-kde -1
-enlightenment -50
-emacs 2
-vi 1
-pico 0
-jove 0
-Linux 2
-RedHat 1
-Debian 2
-SuSE 0
-Caldera 0
-Corel (must be over 18) 0
-FreeBSD 0
-BeOS 1
-M$ Lose[NT,95,98,1900] -50
-you 1 |
| 2000/2/10-11 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17478 Activity:low |
2/9 What exactly is HTTP Keep-Alive Connection?
\_ HTTP1.0 made a TCP connection for every http file received.
HTTP1.1 can use a keep-alive extension to the protocol to
use the same TCP connection to grab more than one file.
How do you tell a browser to extend it's normal request timeout,
like when e-commerce servers process a credit card transaction?
I am going to invoke something in my Java servlet that takes forever.
\_ Wrong. 1.0 has keep-alive in the spec; 1.1 formalized it
\_ Wrong. Keep-alive was NOT in the 1.0 spec, it
was added on by netscape & picked up by others
before 1.1 was finalized. |
| 2000/2/10-11 [Industry/Startup] UID:17479 Activity:high |
2/9 Someone recently asked me to join their net startup. They've
already got three programmers, an internal prototype with the
requisite software and hardware, but only did the incorporation
paperwork about five months ago. I have their business plan and
they seem to have pretty good connections. The programmers are
all grad students and the others are MBA students and they seem
pretty knowledgable and cool. If I don't put any money in, what
can I, as a fourth programmer who's also a grad student, expect as
fair compensation? (I was thinking $40-60K as opposed to $60-80K
for a corporation or better-funded startup, but I'm really not
sure what I should get in terms of equity ...)
\- IMHO, anyone giving you advice [as opposed to meta-advice
like me] is deluded ... I dont think you can possibly give
advice based on this info. I think the only way to decide what
if fair is to compare your skills, contribution and risks to
the other people and find out what they are getting compared
to you. --psb
\_ This company should have funding by now unless they don't for a
particularly good reason. If they have funding, there is NO reason
for the startup to pay full fair. As a graduating undergraduate,
I'm looking between 55k and 80k. 60-65k seems to be about what most
startups are offering. Being a grad student, you should be able
to get about the same salary, perhaps with a bit more equity, but
not necessarily. If they don't have funding, you probably won't
be able to get paid for a while, and you should get a lot more
equity. Maybe something like 0.2%-1.0%. If they have funding,
expect between .03%-.25%.
\_ psb nailed this one.
\_ ppl seem *really* adverse to talking about stock options
that is too bad since so many are in the dark about this
sort of thing and often get screwed by the beancounters.
You have to ask "how many oustanding shares exist?"
You have to ask "how many outstanding shares exist?"
Then you ask what range the negotiator was thinking about.
Then you put out what you were thinking, in a way
where you don't come off as demanding, but also to
let him/her know you are not to be fux0red with.
Given the circumstances you describe (I don't know
what kind of work experience you have or how many
years) I'd ask for .25 to 1%, with 2 to 4 year vesting
given that the company has 10 to 50 million
outstanding shares, which is about what I've gathered is an
industry standard. Call me delusional. - tpc
\_ They won't give you 2 year vesting at a company
this young. You'll be fully vested before they
go public. Not a chance. 1%?? You better be
prepared to live on site for the next two years
for that. This shit doesn't come free. I'd rather
have my .20% and a life, thanks. The odds are so
heavily stacked against a startup making it that
you'd have to be ice cold brain dead stupid to give
up your life for it in the slightest. -startup guy
\_ For a fresh hire to get 1%... that's a lot. But
if you're a senior guy, you can get 1% and keep
a 40-50hr work week. Most fresh hires I know
get offered 10k shares but think that is really
good and don't even know how many are outstanding
\_ 1% is stunningly high. If you're a senior
guy and getting 1%, you're living on site.
If you're not, the company is dead because
they didn't give you 1% to sit on your ass.
You're getting 1% to do 5 people's worth of
work. They can give that 1% to 5 or 10
other people (.2% - .1% each) so no you're
totally stupid if you think you're getting
a huge number like that and going home at
5pm. They don't have enough options left
to give to others if they give every 40
hour/week slacker that much. I've been
there and done that in several startups and
am a "senior guy". I'd like to know the
name of the funded startup that's giving
away options like water in a rain storm.
\_ This is all absurd! When negotiating and asking for percentage
of common stock, you gain very little. You do not know what
dilution will do to your share long term. The only people that
can demand PERCENTAGE ownership are the first X formative guys...
If you want to get it right, you need plans, business case data,
etc. and then take a guess at what anti-dilution various investors
(a co-founder) - but let's say on the 1st floor (< 6-months-old)?
will get...give it up. Just take the number, the total authorized
shares, and the outstanding. Then ask for the current valuation,
and the est. IPO price (you prolly can't get this either). Then
decide how much you would stand to make and pad actual salary
accordingly. Get it up front as cash or get in at the start for
like 5-10% and ridiculously low salary if you believe in the
product / can afford to play.
\_ hello, reality check. You guys are talking about 6-person,
< 6-month-old startups, right? I'm getting the impression
people are referring to 20-50 person startups already past
their first round of VC funding. Is it really .1-.3% vested
in (let's say) 3 years for a company that young? Is that
what's normal for being - not necessarily on the ground floor
(a co-founder) - but on the "1st floor" (< 6-months-old)?
\_ What's normal is how well you negotiate and nothing more. The
"industry standard" is a myth. |
| 2000/2/10-11 [Computer/Networking] UID:17480 Activity:moderate |
2/9 What would be the most efficient way to check if a DNS server is
still up (i.e. still resolving names)? Does nslookup help?
\_ nslookup http://blah.com your_dns_server.
\- you need to define exactly what you want to test. i mean
you can do anythign from a ping, to seeing if someone answers
port 53 to doing a zone xfer. i would just do a zone xfer if
allowed and see if it seems to be about the right size.
[i am assuming you mean from a remote machine] --psb
\_ The guy is having trouble with nslookup. You want him to
do a zone xfer? He'll be happy when nslookup returns.
\_ To just make sure the daemon is running and getting your queries:
"dig @ns1.domain.com version.bind chaos txt". *Then* start making
sure it can answer queries on real domains.
\_ ;; ANSWER SECTION:
VERSION.BIND. 0S CHAOS TXT "Surely you must be joking"
Real admins use protection.
\_ Any answer means the name server is working, the actual
string reported is irrelevant in this case. Real admins
know how to read what they're replying to. |
| 2000/2/10-11 [Uncategorized] UID:17481 Activity:kinda low |
2/10 If jwz buys DNA, will they still have Spencers on Sat??
\_ Spencer stopped doing Spencer's a long time ago.
\_ please explain... |
| 2000/2/10-11 [Recreation/Dating] UID:17482 Activity:insanely high |
2/9 I thought sparky was in prison or something for being the anti-gubmint
radical rebel without a clue that he is, yet the last logs show kewl
b0y logging in almost everyday. Escaped and found a floppy to boot
from?
\_ he smuggled a palm and a ricochet up his ass
\_ Sparky and others are in jail. I was detained and released cuz
I am an 31337 h4x0r k1d and I used pgpdisk and a paper shredder
so there was no evidence to arrest me. Anyways, fuck all yall.
Me and moutchkine are going to go back to getting little 15
year old raver/goth chix high on meth and taping them having lesbian
sex. you may now return to your regularly scheduled program,
wage slaves. -sky
wage slaves. -sparky
\_ I am a slave to the glass dick. -sky
\_ are you a slave to not being a slave?
\_ I am a slave to the glass dick. -sparky
\_ The question is still open how do I fuck sky's girlfriend?
\_ Not really. You're just a dick. Not glass. Not
a slave. Just a dick.
\_ The question is still open how do I fuck sparky's girlfriend?
\_ proposition her with a more lucrative illegal porn
OPPRESSION!!! -sky
\_ sky couldn't have written this about himself. It's
moneymaking scheme.
\_ She sure is hot. Wonder why she ever fell for him.
\_ It must have been my 12" dick of WHITE MALE
OPPRESSION!!! -sparky
\_ sparky couldn't have written this about himself. It's
too stupid even for him.
\_ He just said: 'high on meth and...' A loser like
that couldn't get a chick like that without
drugging her.
\_ She stayed even after the meth wore off? Gee, I
and anonymous fashion. -sky
\_ Amen! Tell 'em brutha jesus! -sky
should work harder on becoming a loser then.
\_ Yeah, I can't believe it myself, with
people like you alive and making your
remarkable magnanimity available for all
the csua to see, but in an elegantly subtle
crack at responding to that one. -sky
and anonymous fashion. -sparky
\_ Uh oh. It was anonymous. Therefore it
months of sky slandering in the motd,
must be false. Uhm... no. If that's
your best reply, stay off the motd and
Either I am hated by a bunch of wussy netstalkers or
recognize^(*&#$^*&^!! -sky
hands. It is my deam that, one day, I may have the
honor of joining the ranks of geek infamy alongside trevor
and dickylee. -sky
the crack pipe.
\_ ok, u got me. I let seano have a
It worked for sky.
crack at responding to that one.
But yeah, over the last several
be driving that bitch. -sky
\_ Again, this can't be sky. This
months of sparky slandering in the motd,
pretending to be sky. It's bad
the only person to actually sign a
post was tom. F00lz best
recognize^(*&#$^*&^!! -sparky
\_ I signed a very eloquent
sparky slander but it got deleted
by seano. -John
\_ Nah, just download some asian chik pic off
the net and say she's your gf. Much easier.
It worked for sparky.
\_ You ain't nothin' but a PLAYA HATA!
\_ Just cuz he got a car he want to
be driving that bitch. -sparky
\_ Again, this can't be sparky. This
is too embarassing. Please stop
pretending to be sparky. It's bad
enough with only him being him.
-sky
\_ Are you broke? Do bitches
look at you like some kind
of joke?
csua'r: Straight up!
What you need is a PHD.
csua'r: Playa Hata's Degree?
tone. Mother, is that you? -sky
Ah hell yeah!
[Next week]
I may be ugly, least
I ain't got no money,
BITCH!
alongside trevor and dickylee. -sky
\_ Foolz best back on up! -sky #1 fan
-sparky
\_ LOL! Yeah whatever. Thanks for
making me laugh, though.
\_ Really!? He even made up a story of how
\_ So Dr. Tweakaseti....we meet at last.
he picked her up. Gee.
\_ It was an http GET request.
hosers think because you are all persona
non-grata, 2) because I dont have some feeble
\_ I send myself fake letters and take
to defend every one of your weak accusations, and
fake pictures and all the times i
all your no-life anklenbiters.
pretend i am talking to her on the
him? sky isn't smart enough to play the part.
phone i am just talking to a dial
tone. Mother, is that you? -sparky
\_ Drugs can do that to you.
\_ Wow! 20 flames and not one person signed their name.
Either I am hated by a bunch of wussy girlie-men or
one of you is way psycho and has too much time on your
one free hand. Some day, if fortune smiles upon me, maybe
I will be lucky enough to join the ranks of geek infamy
alongside trevor and dickylee. -sparky
\_ Foolz best back on up! -sparky #1 fan
\_ Trevor is smarter than you and dickylee had a
certain special something. You're such the current
dork of the week. Either of them would have easily
provided page after page of amusing babble both
attacking others and defending themself (sort of)
with much better stuff than "You're all anon so you
just suck!@!@!111". I thought you'd be more fun but
hope to have. -sky
even the best of us get it wrong sometimes. You're
just a dull witted sap. Where's Trevor when I need
him? sparky isn't smart enough to play the part.
\_ So Dr. Tweakaseti....we meet at last. Just
goes to show, you never really know who your
friends are. You are here-forth all declared
persona non-grata.
I don't write pages and pages of babble defending
myself because 1) I don't give a fuck what u
hosers think, 2) because I dont have some feeble
insecurity which would make me feel the need
to defend every one of your weak accusations
so you all think I am so very very very kewl, and
3) I am too busy having a life to keep up with
all you pissant no-life anklenbiters. As to my
intelligence, who the fuck are you to say? Lack
of judgement I confess, but I lost more
brain cells sniffing the crack of your mom's
hairy lice infested anus than you can ever
hope to have. -sparky |
| 2000/2/10-11 [Computer/SW] UID:17483 Activity:high |
2/10 Computer Science: For the love of it? Or for the money?
\_ For the love of AHGLHAGULHALUGLUGHALUGHL
\_ For the money. If you want to code for free and release source
to make my life easier, I'm not going to complain. Thanks for
the assist.
\_ What do you mean by computer science?
\_ software engineering or research in CS
\_ Research CS and software engineering
are both interesting when done on one's own time,
at one's own pace. They are both boring and/or
stressful when done for someone else at someone else's
schedule.
\_ you got that right. Unfortunately, most jobs,
in CS, you are told what to do and what
time schedule to do it in.
\_ So, to answer the question, I "do computer
science" for fun in my spare time, and
for money on the job. I don't think it's
possible to do better except in rare cases.
\_ For the love of ED! ED IS THE ANSWER! |
| 2000/2/10-11 [Uncategorized] UID:17484 Activity:nil |
2/10 What's with the recent hacker/Amazon talk? Can anyone point me
to an URL that describes this incident? - clueless
\_ See http://fullcoverage.yahoo.com/fc/Tech/Hackers_and_Crackers for
a list of news articles. |