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| 2000/1/11-13 [Computer/SW/RevisionControl] UID:17210 Activity:very high |
1/10 How do you keep more than one person from having a file open at
the same time? (separate but related question...) What is the
easiest way to do version control on a unix box?
\_ CVS.
\_ Single-user: RCS/SCCS, Multi-user: CVS
\_ RCS and/or SCCS dont "break" if you have multiple users.
It just gets very inconvenient if you expect more than one person
to be working on a particular at the same time.
to be working on a particular file at the same time.
\_ If you want to be hard core: cp, diff and compress.
\_ ClearCase
\_ I use ClearCase at work. It's a broken piece of shit.
(Though the UI is pretty nice, I have to admit). -- ilyas
\_ It's the GUI that is the broken piece of shit. All the
command-line utils are completely functional.
-- spent several months writing tools that interface with
it, never had any problems.
\_ It also costs a gazillion dollars or something. -- ilyas
\_ BFD. I have a gazillion dollars in my pocket.
\_ Then what are you doing choosing a version control
tool!? Go on permanent vacation.
\_ Because a gazillion dollars won't buy you a
cup of coffee. Anyway, I'm using RCS which
works just fine for my needs.
\_ what fucking country are YOU in, asshole?
\_ The United States of America. Last
I checked, we didn't have 'gazillion'
as a currency unit.
\_ The U.S. also doesn't have a
million as a currency unit, if
you want to start splitting hairs.
\_ A million is a word that is
symbolic of 1000000 units of
something. A gazillion could
fit in my pocket and won't buy
you a cup of coffee and no I
don't feel like splitting hairs.
\_ There's no such thing as a gazillion dollars!
\_ Perforce is pretty good too.
\_ lock the file with an exclusive lock. see flock(2) |
| 2000/1/11 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:17211 Activity:high |
1/10 Why don't we use SSH Ver.2? (I think there was an explanation
somewhere but i can't find it)
\_ No one supports SSH 2.
\_ SSH2 costs too much
\_ Exactly. SSH1 is freeware while SSH2 is available for purchase
only. |
| 2000/1/11 [Computer/SW] UID:17212 Activity:nil |
1/10 once again: if you work for OrCAD or Cadence, fuck you. Your software
sucks, and better software could have been written by a kid on an
apple ][e. I hope someone starts writing good sofware in competition
and buries this shitty excuse for a software company. |
| 2000/1/11 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Reference/Tax] UID:17213 Activity:kinda low |
1/10 You can't hide Hillary's crimes. As soon as she's out of the WH and
doesn't have my tax dollars to illegally spend on herself it'll all
come out and then we'll finally get the truth.
\_ Clinton will have her killed off like the hundreds of others he has. |
| 2000/1/11 [Uncategorized] UID:17214 Activity:kinda low |
1/10 Watch "Freaks & Geeks" tonight at 8 p.m. on channel 4 -- swings
\_more /etc/motd.public
\_ ^more^less !
\_ Whoa! Turned it on just now and those kids remind me of how several
of you act today! They've totally nailed the geek boy of today! |
| 2000/1/11-13 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:17215 Activity:high |
1/10 I'm a non-tech major but would like to be a sys admin. Are there
local classes (e.g. @CSU, Santa Clara, etc) that I can take to
perform basic, entry-level sys admin tasks?
\_ never took any but found it better to learn by doing;
install linux or fbsd or nt or solaris on a home pc and play.
\_ You'll be unhappy if you're doing this just for the money.
\_ This is such a bullshit response. You'll be just as
unhappy working some scut job for $30K. working as a sys
admin may bore you, but twice the cash will make the rest
of your life that much better
\_ Ask Tom.
\_ Isn't this true of many a worker-bee?
\_ Yup. Frankly, the "you'll be unhappy working
only for money" thing is a bit hackneyed. How
happy are you going to be at 70 with no cash and
a pile of medical bills? Maybe the illegal they
have at the home will roll you over once a week
if you're nice to her and haven't shit on your-
self too much.
\_ You can be a BOFH, but I'm sure they don't teach that
in any sysadmin "class".
\_ Nice in theory. In the RW you get fired. Why you'd
want this in the first place is a mystery.
\_ I'd like to have a BOFH more than I'd like to
have the nimrod in IS who thought that my
problem could be solved by upgrading to the
latest version of Eudora for my (Solaris!)
desktop. I'd get just as much help from the
BOFH, but I'd be more entertained.
\_ Why would you want either? It's like trying
to choose between getting run over by a red
or a blue SUV.
\_ In my world, there are no BOFHs, nimrods,
or SUVs (red, blue, or otherwise);
everyone rides bike, uses Linux, and does
their own admin (unless you're part of
the 3l33t overclass; then the admins are
h0t ch1x!!1! who also happen to have
more UNIX clue than any currently living
human. I, of course, lead the
overclass).
\_ Enjoyed your nap? Now back to work,
slave!
\_ http://www.unex.berkeley.edu/cert/unix.html
\_ Well, that depends, you can oftentimes make little (or even
not-so-little) projects for yourself to liven up the daily
routine. Other than that I don't think there's any way that
sysadminning can't be boring.
\_ I get paid to surf. But I get paid a lot more than
the other people at work with jobs even more boring
and tedious. -sysadmin
\_ sure. tom will teach you how to properly swap a backup tape.
\_ AND INITIAL THE TAPE LOGS, DAMN IT!
\_ UC Santa Cruz Extension offers a bunch of evening programs for
this sort of thing.
\_ Gotta retrain all those secretaries from the typing pool to
install win95.
\_ I would suggest learning the UNIX basics from a friend,
then take the UNIX Sys Admin Architecture and other more
advanced classes later. |