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2000/1/7-8 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17181 Activity:nil
1/6     I'm presently a General Sys. Admin. who has just begun doing a lot
        more Unix stuff (which i enjoy a lot). My boss has offered me the
        junior DBA position (+ some unix admin stuff on the side) with the
        advantage of being able to get out of the telcom area (which i
        stupidly got myself mixed up in).  Unfortunately I don't have a
        firm grasp on what a DBA even DOES, let alone if i would like it.
        Any Advice? -phuqm@hotmail.com
        \_ DBA's are thos guys that quit their jobs after a week after
           realizing how amazingly boring it is.  There's a reason why
           you get paid a lot and it's not because of your wonderful
           skills.  It's about the most boring job in the world and I
           would suggest you look somewhere else.
                \_ they get paid A LOT. What is your point? $ = motivation.
        \_ If you can stand the boredom and the responsibility, go for it.
           As the junior guy, they'll teach you the basics, so don't worry
           about that.  They understand you know nothing.  The hard part is
           that if you break the DB, everyone will know it instantly and the
           whole company could be fucked even if you've been doing backups.
           \_ true. even shorter summary: If you can live being as anal
              about change control as the NSA is about security, its
              a good thing. Otherwise, move on when you get the chance.
2000/1/7 [Uncategorized] UID:17182 Activity:nil
1/6          \_  Thanks.  I'm an idiot.
                 \_ And you're a moron for not removing your entry.
                    \_ Which of course makes you twice the moron for not
                       removing it either.
                       \_ I hope you never breed.
                    \_ Then he would not have recieved my invaluable
                       thanks, it did not kill the sodans to have the
                       mesg up for a few more hours.
2000/1/7-9 [Uncategorized] UID:17183 Activity:high
1/7     Looks like the Best Buy thing was real. I hope you got in on it
        if you wanted to:
        http://www.latimes.com/business/updates/lat_rebate000107.htm --dim
        \_ It seems to me that taking advantage of this loophole is
           unethical.  I guess it is a moot point by now, though.
                \- why is it unethical? do you think it is unethical
                for companies to bite you on the ass because you didnt
                read all 12 pages of fine print when you buy some minor
                item? is it unethical becaues it will hurt msft? --psb
                \_ I didn't go for it because I figured MS would find some way
                   to screw me on it.  Ethics be damned.
           \_  Right because an add which declares $500 PIII and fine
               prints (well, except it is really $1100 -200 in rebates and
               $400 that you have to pay back to MS for a crappy service
               you don't want, is SO ethical.
           \_ It's unethical in general, but hey, this time it's Micro$oft!
              I feel bad that I didn't take advantage of Gates.
        \_ "At the Best Buy in West Los Angeles, the result was four-hour
           waits with hundreds of people in lines snaking through several
           aisles."  I don't feel like I missed out on anything, thanks.
        \_ Not if four hour wait is involved.
        \_ My friend went to the Milpitas one and said the inventory
           was all but cleaned out. Two hour waits.
           \_ A two hour wait to get nothing?  How lucky can you get?
              \_ The 3L!73 did it before all the LU23r5 found out.
        \_ Bill G bought me a Rio 500 w/32MB flash card. Total Cost: 400.50
           Cost to Me: .50 Chump Change.
           \_ You're going to Hell upon death.
              \_ Plus the one month of MSN.
2000/1/7-8 [Recreation/Travel] UID:17184 Activity:moderate
1/6     Can anyone recommend good (possible cheap) cabin lodging at Lake
        Tahoe near the Heavenly slopes?  I've skiied at Tahoe before so I
        don't know the area too well.
        \_ Yes.  Someone can.
        \_ There are scores of cheap small motels off the California entrance
           to Heavenly (though you may still want to drive to Nevada side.
           \_ Can you read dumbass?
                \_ Having difficulty reading your dumbass over the net.
        \_ I've stayed at Motel 6 in South Lake quite a few times. ~40 bucks
           for 2 queens. You + 3 friends = Cheap lodging and no long drives in
           the morning (but wait til they get some precip)
        \_ I much prefer northshore tahoe.  Granlibakken weekday rate is
           $70/person, double occupancy, including breakfast & lift ticket
           to squaw or alpine.  And it's a REALLY nice resort.
2000/1/7-10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:17185 Activity:nil
1/6     In Java, I can declare huge static string (e.g. static String
        mesg[][] = { {"error1", "Disk error"}, {"hello", "Welcome!"} }.
        How do I do the equivalent in Java Hash table?
        \_ The hard way, i.e. manually adding things in.  Java ain't perl.
        \_ Java is dead.  XML is in.
                \_ Spoken like someone who understands neither.
                        \_ Spoken like a Java fanatic who doesn't understand
                           that the pace of technology has destroyed Java
                           before it ever took off.  Bye Java.  Nice to almost
                           know you.
                                \_ No, just someone who knows the difference
                                   between a programming language and a
                                   document formatting language.  XML is very
                                   cool & useful, but has nothing to do with
                                   writing programs.
                                   \_ No one is going to pay big bucks for last
                                      year's Java coders once XML is in.  It
                                      has nothing to do with writing programs
                                      or document markup.  It has to do with
                                      cold hard cash and the Java folks are
                                      soon to be out.  You're all wrapped up in
                                      the technology.
                \_ Ah, but writing XML parsers in Java is *very* in...
                   a possible motivation for the above post.
                        \_ Doesn't matter what you use to do your XML.
                   \_ EXPAT! EXPAT! EXPAT IS THE STANDARD!  XML parser.
               \_ almost everything you now use employs Java in some fashion,
                  technopeasant.  Java is still very in.  See also "enterprise"
                  Java.         -javaHead
                  \_ Don't be stupid.  Almost everything I now use employs C
                     and some small shred employs C++.  For every line of
                     production Java in the world there's about 300 million
                     in C and 10 million in C++.
              \_ You're dead. Homo sapiens is in.
2000/1/7 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17186 Activity:high
1/6     Ring noise purged.  Summary: don't be a cheap bastard, you won't miss
        the few $k in 20 years but she'll miss not having a nice rock.  Don't
        kid yourselves about taking a vacation instead.  The ring is forever.
        \_ until the dumb broad loses it.
                \_ Uh... ya.  One, you insured the ring, right?  Two, that's
                        \_ Is a replacement really the same?
                                \_ It is if you feel it is.  Is a lost ring
                                   and tears forever better than a replacement?
                                   I'll take the replacement.
                   your wife.  If the troll married a dummy, he deserves what
                   he gets.  Also, sometimes shit just happens when you're
                   wearing a 4 figure rock on a finger.
                   \_ funny, I still have MY ring. - male
                        \_ So uhm your point is what?  Or is this just some
                           out of context factoid for the round file?
        \_ Aspo trolling for anti-aspo comment purged.  Nice try, though.
2000/1/7-10 [Politics] UID:17187 Activity:high
1/7     I am trying to find a host in south africa, hostname sfw_pe.pe
        (perhaps sfw_pe.pe.sa?) but can't. Anyone else have this problem
        or know whats up?
        thx
        \_ Doubt this is the problem, but you should be warned that underscores
           are not legal in domain names and nothing is guaranteed to support
           them.
        \_ Racism.
        \_ .pe is Peru. South africa's TLD is .za (for Zurafrika). -alexf
                \_ RACIST!
        \_ Deleting my comments about this being racist doesn't make it
           less so.
           \_ This is too dumb even for a troll. You must be a genuine moron.
                \_ RACIST!
                   \_ RACIST!
                      \_ RACIST!
                         \_ RACIST!
                            \_ RACIST!
                \_ RACIST!
                   \_ ETHNIC STUDIES MAJOR!!!
                        \_ Yeah, so?
                           \_ DUMBFUCK!!!!!!
                   \_ Uhh... what is racist exactly?
2000/1/7-8 [Uncategorized] UID:17188 Activity:nil
1/7     my company is looking for a sysadmin and engineers. see:
        http://www.bitmo.com/btabs_jobs.jsp     -vann
2000/1/7-8 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:17189 Activity:high
1/7     Is it possible to install JDK 1.1.7 and 1.1.8 together? The Solaris
        pkgadd always always installs in /usr/java1.1, and unfortunately,
        both 1.1.7 and 1.1.8 installs it in /usr/java1.1.
        \_ just install it elsewhere and link it to /opt/java .  Since I
           have to use three or four different installations at a time, this is
           what I do.                   -brain
           \_ gee brain, what are we going to do tomorrow night? -pinky
                \_ We're going to do what we do every night, Pinky....
                        \_ you mean like fucking my brains out? *poit*
                \_ Can you pose some pix of yours in your home page, Pinky?
2000/1/7-8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:17190 Activity:low
1/7     I have a Alpha Station 4/166, but it appears that the powersupply
        is dead. Anyone know where I might be able to get one cheap?  I
        have already tried WierdStuff and Halted with no luck. I don't
        want to pay the support price for a Genuine Dec/Compaq one either.

        Alternately, if any of the current CSUA officers think that they
        can get it fixed, I wouldn't mind donating it.
          \_ try http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com
               they have a 300W one that I think fits the bill, search
               for "alpha".   -nick
2000/1/7-8 [Uncategorized] UID:17191 Activity:nil
1/6     Ring noise purged.  Summary: don't throw your money at a company
        which supports aparthied and hobbles its workers.
        \_ But that keeps diamond prices low!
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