Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:December:18 Saturday <Sunday>
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1999/12/18-21 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:17060 Activity:nil
12/18   Jello. I am trying to dual boot a athlon-500 w/ nt and fbsd but am
        getting a bunch of bsods and SIGSEGVs (during gcc)  o
        when i install / buildworld (respectively)  Anyone have any luck?
        I already tried turning down the memory timing. - paolo
        \_ You're overclocking?  Sigh.
           \_ it's really sad to see that the only people care about these
              days are clock speeds.  if you overclock your cpu you start
              to get diminishing returns in exchange for having a hotter
              cpu and higher risk of failure.
           \_ No  I'm not.  I see no need to overclock.  I would just buy
              a 750.  Not My Money(tm)
                \_ If it's not your money, buy an Intel dual or quad MB and
                   don't worry about it.
1999/12/18-21 [Uncategorized] UID:17061 Activity:nil
12/17   Finally dug up the Muffin documentation.  Here're descriptions of all
        the builtin filters: http://muffin.doit.org/doc/filter/index.cgi I'd
        also like to take this opportunity to invite you all to SIGN YOUR
        FUCKING POSTS! -mogul
        \_ Sign your fucking posts. Phillip
        \_ Junkbusters will sometimes cause IE to reload the current page
           instead of the bookmark I've clicked.  It doesn't do this often
           and a few reloads fixes it but this is disappointing.  -why_care?
1999/12/18 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:17062 Activity:high
12/16   Emacs automatically goes to the next line when I enter ";", "}".
        I want to stop this behavior.  How?
        \_ use notepad.exe
        \_ use cat
                \-what mode? probably C-q and then ; or } will do it. --psb
           \_ use dog
           \_ USE ED!  ED IS THE STANDARD EDITOR!!!!
               \_ It should be: "ED!  ED!  ED is the standard!!!"
                  \_ Sigh.  ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD!
                     Text editor.
1999/12/18 [Industry/Startup] UID:17063 Activity:kinda low
12/18   Hello, I work at a small internet startup, and all I can
        do is think about my stock options, at least twice a day,
        I think about how much I'd get if they were worth $$$, and we
        IPO, and I think about how many stocks my coworkers have, and
        whether they have more, and whether I should ask for more
        since I now only have 0.25% of the company and I feel I am vastly
        overperform them.  Stock Options! Is something
        wrong with me?   -daytrader
        \_ If *all* you do is think of your options, pretty soon you won't
           be "vastly overperform" your co-workers.  Then you'll get fired,
           and you'll have other things to worry about besides options --
           like how to stop those damn punk kids who live on the other side
           of your underpass from stealing *your* shopping carts all the
           time.  Damn kids!
1999/12/18-21 [Recreation/Food/Alcohol, Recreation/Food] UID:17064 Activity:low
12/17   Are there any delivery services, like takeout taxi, that deliver
        food from vairous restaurants around Berkeley?  Anyone have a
        phone number or URL? -forest
        \_ Dominos.
        \_ Waiters on Wheels?  Not so sure it serves Berkeley though.
                http://www.waitersonwheels.com
        \_ I found this: http://www.slip.net/~john/delivery  -forest
        \_ http://www.food.com http://www.dine.com  we've used http://dine.com, it takes
           a long time, but it gets done, sure beats driving across town
           to pick up food.  http://food.com was recommended to me by a respected
           coworker, we have yet to try it out. --chris
           \_ good thing is wasn't referred by a loathsome coworker.
1999/12/18 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:17065 Activity:nil
12/17   http://www.fox.com is now netscape for unix compliant(tm)
1999/12/18-20 [Reference/Celebration] UID:17066 Activity:kinda low 66%like:18435
12/18   Happy birthday, peterm!
        \_  Thanks for the thought, you're one day late on the date, though.
            But it's 11:51pm on the 17th, so the wish is on time. -PeterM
            \_ You're forgetting we're on Berkeley time. So it's really 12:01am
               on the 18th.
                \_ berkeley time is offset the other direction.
1999/12/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:17067 Activity:nil
12/18   It is Friday night. I am drunk. yay CSUA. yay motd.
1999/12/18-21 [Industry/Jobs] UID:17068 Activity:high
12/18   Could i get some people's comments about working at Taos Mountain?
        thanks.
           \_ Why do they have the bad rep? Is it only because of the
              fact they act like some employment agency? (How much do
              they get paid for you?) Or is it because you dont learn
              anything? Does it look bad on the resume to leave soon?
                \_ You'll probably get somewhere in the range of 30%-40%
                   of what they're paid for you.
                \_ They're a contract agency.  Contract agents and head
                   hunters aren't bad people, they're just primarily
                   interested in earning a living;  like in any job situation,
                   the other guy will consider his interests before yours.
                   Act accordingly.  -John
                   \_ Taos takes about 45 cents on the billing hour, after
                      they pay your FICA and benefits.  For some contracts
                      that's probably higher.  This is probably ok for a
                      jr/mid grade SA.  The norm for staying there is about
                      2 years, but it won't look bad or good if you leave
                      sooner.  They're just an agency. Always remember that
                      you're a contractor, not really an employee.  -jor
                   \_ Exactly.  And they don't have a bad rep, per se.  They
                      just don't have your interests at heart.  You have to
                      fully understand and appreciate this before going there.
                      I have never held short time contracting against someone
                      when considering a new hire.  YMMV but I think it's ok.
        \_ giving the above poster/baiter the benefit of the doubt:
           i would rather comment privately -- it has its pros and cons.
           email me, i used to be a recruiter there. --chris
           \_ Are you the same person quoted in the sfgate article?
        \_ She'll just try to recruit you to some lame job.  Don't email her.
           In public: Taos is ok if you have zero job experience and need to
           put something on your resume fast but don't stay more than 3 months
           or 6 on the way outside or you're missing out on real jobs that will
           be much better for you in the long run.  Taos keeps getting paid
           more for you with each contract but you don't see any of it.  Pity
           the fool who stayed at Taos long enough to get the lamer jacket
           (one full year).  Use them like they intend to use you then leave.
           If you already have job experience there's nothing they can offer
           you, don't waste your time on them.
           \_ Why do they have the bad rep? Is it just because of the
           \_ Don't flatter yourself, dear anonymous poster.  I would rather
              just talk "offline" about Taos.  It's good, and it's bad.  I have
              anything? Does it look bad on the resume?
              my personal opinions, and I would rather not air them in public.
              If you're an intermediate SysAdmin, it is a great way
              to build a career for yourself, any more detailed info, ask me
              yourself.  --chris
                \_ If you're a beginner SysAdmin it is an ok way to start a
                   career.  As far as flattery, how many recruiters such as
                   yourself are really careful about who they're willing to
                   try to place?  "Oh, I don't think I'll make $20k+ from
                   trying to place you.  You don't meet my high standards."
                   Get real.  Any recruiter such as yourself would place any
                   warm (or cold) body anywhere they could make a fast buck.
           \_ Why do they have the bad rep? Is it only because of the
              fact they act like some employment agency? (How much do
              they get paid for you?) Or is it because you dont learn
              anything? Does it look bad on the resume to leave soon?
                \_ They're a contract agency.  Contract agents and head
                   hunters aren't bad people, they're just primarily
                   interested in earning a living;  like in any job situation,
                   the other guy will consider his interests before yours.
                   Act accordingly.  -John
                   \_ Exactly.  And they don't have a bad rep, per se.  They
                      just don't have your interests at heart.  You have to
                      fully understand and appreciate this before going there.
                      I have never held short time contracting against someone
                      when considering a new hire.  YMMV but I think it's ok.
1999/12/18-21 [Health, Health/Men] UID:17069 Activity:high
12/18   We're in Thailand!  We found an internet cafe!  We're living in
        an alley!  No kidding!   -raytrace, brain
        \_ Jokes, like whores, age quickly.
        \_ Yawn.
        \_ internet cafes are pretty common in tourist areas. I was in
           Koh Samui last year which isn't too highly developed like Phuket.
           There were several combo Internet/long distance/laundry/currency
           shops. --vchang
        \_ Is the movie "Anna and the King" showing there?  How much of the
           story is real history?
        \_ Is the movie "Anna and the King" being shown there?  How much of
           the story is real history?
                \_ the horny king slept with Anna, but because we're in
                   Hollywood/Broadway, we can only show white men w/Asian chix
                   \_ Not in "Dragon: The Bruce Lee story"
                   \_ Really?  In one of the Don Wilson's movies, Don, acting
                      as a Chinese-American doctor, slept with the sister of
                   \_ Really?  In one of Don Wilson's movies, Don, acting as
                      a Chinese-American doctor, slept with the sister of
                      his white opponent.
                   \_ that wouldn't be don "the dragon" wilson would it?
                      i can't ever stop laughing about this one character
                      who proposes to stop a gang feud by using "thai-style
                      boxing", meaning rope wristbands with chunks of glass,
                        \_ in The Lover a studly asian male plays hide the salami
                           with a much younger white chic
                      in a private match.
                      \_ Yes, it's indeed Don "the Dragon" Wilson as the
                         doctor.  The character you're laughing about is the
                         doctor's cousin.  I don't know the name of the actor
                         though.
                      \_ "Racism, blah, anti-asian, blah, anti-whatever, blah,
                       Political Correctness, blah, thought control, blah, no
                       free speech for people who don't agree with me, blah,
                       blah, blah, blah, blah, noise, stupidity, blah".
                        \_ in The Lover a studly asian male plays hide the
                           salami  with a much younger white chic
                           \_ read "14" (12?)
                              Portrayed by Jane March. sexy. Not her visually,
                              the whole way they did some scenes.
                              And dude, learn about 80 columns. I fixed your
                              problem. Supposedly autobiographical, by
                              ... "Maureen Dumas"? Marguerite Duras?
                           \_ Can't find "The Lover" in http://www.imdb.com
                              \_ thats cause its got "Lover" in the title
                        http://www.eonline.com/Facts/Movies/0,60,28411,00.html
                        It was a bitch to find. Also,
                        http://www.jane-march.com
                      \_ Neither Don Wilson's movie or The Lover are popular
                         or are of Hollywood/Broadway quality.
                         \_ "Hollywood quality" is rather oxymoronic.
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