12/8    I am trying to come up with a gift for a good friend who is very
        into    setting up computer/network at his home.  He has linux, NT,
        or whatever (I am not into this things myself).  Any suggestiongs
        for a gift within $100?
        \_ No, but I corrected your annoying typos.
           \_ What were they?
        \_ are you saying he's very into getting a home LAN set up or that
           he already has one up and you're looking for a supplement gift?
                \_ They were corrected.  Just be thankful.
        \_ A pair of ethernet cards?
        \_ a copy of VMWare software
        \_ are you saying he's very into getting a home LAN or that
           he already has one and you're looking for a supplement gift?
                \-a life, you can start with a $100 one
                \_ They clearly said "he has linux, NT, or whatever".
        \_ A nice hub, and some shockingly colored network cables.  I think
           you can get bright green, pink, whatever ones.  -John
        \_ A copy of Batman.  Starring Jack Nicholson, Michael Keaton,
           and Kim Basinger.

12/8    The OCF is looking for a few cheap 19" by 84" (seven feet tall)
        racks.  If you have any leads, mail jones or gm@ocf.berkeley.edu
        \_ what type, two post, four post?  Stationary, mobile? Freestanding,
           or bolted to the floor?  how many shelves? --Jon
            \_ freestanding single unit, no shelves needed, mobile or not.
               (not the post kind) -jones

12/8    Be sure to install a carbon monoxide detector if you want to live.
        \_ I don't have one yet I still seem to be here.

12/8    Anybody remember the exact date of Netscape's IPO?  I remember it
        was august of 1995.  But what day?  References on the web would
        be great.  Thanks.

12/8    tjb's "sweetie": http://playboy.com/oncampus/pictorial/index.html
        \_ She's got huge tits, a pretty face, shaved pussy, and she appeared
           in Playboy.  She did not fuck tjb.  Boys like that don't get action
           with women like this.  I seriously doubt tjb is anything but a loud
           mouthed virgin.  Anyone actually getting laid on a semi-regular
           basis wouldn't feel the need to post to usenet about it.  Sex just
           isn't that big a deal.  I don't post about how often I have lunch,
                 Public policy, if I remember correctly.
           even when I have a really great lunch.  It's just lunch.  What we
           really need for some serious low brow entertainment is tjb here on
           the motd.  That'd be good for some laughs until he got squished.
           \_ You need to eat less
                \_ Then I might turn into a tjb clone posting about how great
                   my last meal was at McD's.
           \_ was she shaved before, or does playboy "encourage" them?
                \_ Does it matter?
                  \_ definately. I want to know how common it is to find
                     a girl with big tits and a shaved puss, who hasn't
                     already done photo spreads
                        \_ Unlikely.  Shaving is for better pussy eating and
                           lots of sex without getting as rubbed raw from the
                           hair on both her and her partners.  Most women
                           aren't having *that* much sex.  It's also a fetish
                           thing for folks who have a little girl fetish.
                             \_ wanting better pussy eating is unlikely?
                                \_ No, but most people aren't aware of this and
                                   aren't that kinky.  They'd be more likely
           party bs.  A lot of good looking women attend cal.  Just go
           to the IHouse or southside.
                                   to do it if they understood the effects.  Or
                                   maybe not if they understood they have to
                                   keep it smooth or it'll itch like hell.
                     \_ I've dated a couple of women with big tits and
                        a shaved puss who weren't doing photo spreads. They
                      they drop, at 14. I'm sure you've had a lot of
                      experience at that.
                        were all into sex.
                        \_ Yes.  Just like I said above.  It's an anti-friction
                           thing.
        \_ I've had better.  Ok but a bit saggy even for a 'big' girl.
           \_ Anything less saggy would be implants, I'd think.
                \_ You'd be incorrect.
                   \_ Thats right. you've got to get them before
                      they drop. [get them at ] 14.
                      \_ They don't drop at 14.  I've never illegally touched
                         a girl.  I've been with 14 year olds.
              \_ Actually what I wanted to say is "anything less saggy at her
                 age would be implants."  I've seen very full and firm ones on
                 some teenage girl that are real but look like implants.
        \_ I never realized girls like this attended Cal. I guess she's
              probably not an engineer, huh? --dim
              \_ She dropped out after the pictorial to do some sort of
                 modeling work in LA. And no she was not in engineering.
                 Pubic policy, if I remember correctly.
                 \_ She didn't go out with Buckingham, though.
                    \_ Actually, disturbingly enough, the claim he posted
                       on the newsgroup is correct; I know 3 people who
                       were witness to the event. And they were surprised
                       no less than the rest of us to hear it, too.
                        \_ You can hire a hooker to do almost anything.  What
                           would it cost to get a chick willing to show her
                           shaved cunt to the world to walk around the dorms
                           with you once or twice?  I figure about $5.00.
        \_ Sigh.  Why don't you ask csuaers who know brooke?  Ask your
           current treasurer, Twohey, or bensch.  Fuck vi and this 3rd
           party bs.  Take your own advice and consult the src.
           \_ okay, then another question for "the src",
              "HOW did he scam her into going out with him?"
                \_ $5.00.  Don't be naive.
                \_ Actually, it was pot.  Brooke used to be a sweet and
                   innocent little girl with "a boyfriend back home" and then
                   she became a stoner.  Yay pot culture.
                \_ Ok, so she's a stoner with bad taste in men.  And now she's
                   in LA working as a call girl.  I wouldn't brag about this
                   if it were me.  "Yeah, I dated this one stoner chick with
                   big tits who dropped out and now 'dates' a lot".
        \_ A lot of good looking women attend cal.  Just go to the IHouse
           or southside.
           \_ IHouse is all foreigners.  Southside is all drug addicts.
              \_ Fuck off elitist white boy.
        \_ At the time I was surprised at it. But today it comes as no
           wonder to me that after I stopped hanging with CSUAers socially
           not only did I start dating more, but I started dating attractive
           women. The women associated with the CSUA tend to contrast
           pretty significantly with the arrogant pricks the men tend to be.
           \_ I've been saying this to my friends who socialize in the CSUA
              for years but they're too afraid to join the real world.  There
              are some really great women out there.  Out there = not in the
              CSUA.  Just don't discuss the latest kernel patch on your first
              date and you'll be fine.
                \_ The right woman will be the one to bring up the latest
                   kernel patch in the first place
                   \_ Get some sun.  Not the workation kind.
                   _/
          _ http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99dec/19991208.html

12/8    http://warlock.blackops.org/~msk/T

12/8    Are there any more CSUA "got mips?" T-shirts, like Dan was showing
        off at the general meeting? --Galen
        \_  Yes, last time I looked.  I think there about 20+ left.  --PeterM
        \_ They would have sold much better if the words "Undergrad assoc."
           were left OUT of the back.  I.e.: front says: Got Mips? and the
           back SHOULD've said: Berkeley Computer Science.  It's all about
           marketing the product.
           back SHOULD've said: Berkeley Computer Science. Someone needs to
           take a marketing class. =P
        \_ Thank you Mr. Anonymous Marketing coward.  We'll be sure to consult
           the motd for your advice before producing any future t-shirts.  If
           we wanted CS department t-shirts, we'd make CS department t-shirts.
           Seeing as these are CSUA shirts, it makes sense that they say CSUA.
           -dans
        \_ who should we be contacting if we want to buy a shirt?  -oj
           \_ contact dans@csua, alternatively, you can come by
              the office (343 soda) and buy one. - paolo

12/8    If I want to run perl should I do it in NT4SP5 or 98?  Is there a
        signifigant performance differance?  I am mostly interested in
        learning to program without having to buy a compiler.
                \_ perl will run the same either way.  NT4 works less badly.
        \_ perl will run the same either way.  NT4 works less badly.
        \_ Performance?  If you want performance you don't use perl.
           \_ Nor Windoze.
              \_ Nor anything else from M$.
        \_ Who said you had to buy a compiler?
           <DEAD>sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin<DEAD>
           -brg
        \_ The most noticible difference between NT/98 for Perl is how awful the
           command shell is under Win9x.  If you can choose, go with NT.  The
           scrollback is much better (i.e. existant) and you can actually
           redirect stderr.

12/8    What is the solaris "listen" service?
        \_ Did you read the man page for listen? This sounds like a
           stupid question.
           \_ listen?  sounds like?  HAR!  You're funny.

12/8    In elisp, when I do a match of ("\<!\-\-[.]*\-\-\>" nil comment),
        I can't match that [.]*. Instead I have to use [a-z0-9\n_\ ] and
        explicitly tell it what I want to match. Why doesn't [.]* work?
        \_ Don't put [] around the '.'  But you don't want a . anyway,
           since the greedy * will likely chew up more than you want.
                \_ Hi, I tried .* but still couldn't get it work. Do
                   do you have a better regexp than mine to match <!-- -->?
                   Thanks.
                        \_ Try [^-]* or look at what the html or w3 modes do.
                           \_ WOW COOL THANKS! How do I look at the regexp
                              (official ones) that describe w3? I'm writing
                              my own since its not built in and it is a pain

12.09   Got Perl?  2 unit perl decal class for Spring 2K.  See your fellow
        csuaers teach a useful course!
        http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~darin/perl

12/09   got mips?  The CSUA has a new t-shirt design.  Front has got mips?
        design and back says "U.C. Berkeley Computer Science Undergraduate
        Association".  Contact dans or drop by the office if interested.
        Price is $10 (we can probably arrange to mail you one for a few bucks
        extra)

12/8    Anyone know any reason not to put Netatalk on my Sun?  (e.g. huge
        security holes, some other better product, etc.)?
        \_ last time I read the netatalk documentation it said it had crappy
           support for Solaris and there were a lot of people on the mailing
           list talking about kernel panics.  -tom