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| 1999/12/2 [Uncategorized] UID:16989 Activity:very high |
12/2 At Tuesday's WTO protest, 20 demonstrators from Humboldt County
used lock boxes to link themselves in a circle. As supporters
gathered around them, you could see thick clouds of tear gas at
the next intersection down the hill, where police were dispersing
a crowd. Calls went up for vinegar and rags to cover the faces of
the blockaders, who calmly sat and waited. An hour or so later,
the police arrived and asked the blockaders to leave. When they
refused, cops went around the circle, pepper-spraying the
activists in the face. They didn't unlock. The police sprayed
again. Still the blockaders stayed firm. After two more attempts,
the police finally gave up, ceding the intersection to the
protesters.
\_ of course, this idea does not exclude the similar idea that
the WTO rioters all deserve a swift kick to the head while
being dunked in toilet water diarrhea. Moron fuck-ups. (again)
\_ these weren't rioters
(Why isn't this considered brutality?)
\_ Ok, smartguy, ignore the fact that this was a WTO protest.
Think generically. Protesters refusing to leave. How, as a
policeman, would you have made them move?
\_ cut locks. Pick them up. Move them. I am thinking generically
\_ My incredible mental powers. Barring that, my magnetic
personality and incredible good looks.
\_ Well gee, I guess I would have pepper sprayed them right in the
face a few times in violation of my training on the correct and
safe use of pepper spray and then just left to go get some beer.
What would you have done, not ignoring the fact that no matter
their politics, they are still human beings and you don't do
that to another human being, especially for some stupid reason
like "they were blocking the street"?
\_ They were blocking the street to get attention. They got
their attention. They knew the risks. (If they didn't,
then they're incredibly stupid, given the history of
protests and police action). And they're policemen. They
don't go have beers on duty. They do their job. Yes, I
consider use of pepper spray more in line with their job
than to blow off their assignments and hit the bars. Oh,
and they were blockading, which I assume (correct me if I'm
wrong) they were preventing people from crossing (or am I
not getting the definition of 'blockade'?) if i wanted to
cross, i damn well would approve of the police taking
necessary action for me to cross.
\_ there are many ways to deal with the situation that don't
involve pepper spray to the face. Pepper spray has been
known to kill people it is so toxic. I mena if they
started shooting people I'm sure htat would have worked
too. Doesn't mean it is the right way to go about things.
\_ Peanut butter has been known to kill people it
is so toxic. Don't be a freak.
\_I hope this is bait and not ignorance.
\_ No, it's true. Some people are so
allergic to peanuts that they'll die
if they eat them.
\_ Why is it that computer science majors in
general don't believe in human rights?
\_ I don't know that you can generalize from
the bozos that post to the motd to CS majors
in general |
| 1999/12/2-6 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:16990 Activity:kinda low |
i12/2 HEY IDIOT, THESE ARE YOUR PEERS, MAYBE YOU SHOULD DEAL WITH
THEM.
7056 akyan 7096 eyip
7464 toddlee 7776 dana
7888 jennylau 8112 muchandr
8560 scharpen 10352 norby
11120 jose 12920 glorial
At some point, users have to deal with each other. Relying
on root on this machine to do that for you is childish and
immature. Phillip.
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\_ Let's start an e-mail petition!! Just add your name to the
list and forward it to your favorite soda peers!
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\_ We have no power over them. empower me (with root!) and I
will deal with them ...
[figlet deleted]
\_ why dont we reconfigure the local mail agents to put user
mailboxes in user home directories? Then we wont' need
a separate mail partition, and user quotas are handled
better. -ERic
\_ because that idea got shot down the day it was suggested
-- cassandra
\_ on what grounds?
\_ On the grounds that mail hogs couldn't hog anymore?
\_ a moreimportant question is "By who"? and the
corrolary, "Where are the losers now, so we can
safely ignore them?"
\_ we do this at work and it sucks. don't do it unless the
sendmail or equivalent is on the same host w/ the home dirs
(not NFS mounts) and the home disks are as reliable as the
the user mail spool disks. otherwise mail gets lost
and/or delayed w/ all the flaky home disk failures.
\_ Hellloooo... soda runs sendmail on the same box as your
home. Disks of the same type are about equally reliable.
Why would you claim the home disks are less reliable than
the mail disks? Did your IT guys say, "hey! I know! Lets
buy refurb disks for the home dirs! we like doing full
system restores!!!"? Unlikely. Please stop babbling
about the sky falling on your mail spool.
\_ I think he's speaking in more general terms. And
yes, some storage is more reliable. For example,
network-attached storage RAID 1/0 is more reliable than
flaky full-height 1991-vintage disk drives striped
RAID 0. You said "same type" but that wasn't
originally implied. --dim
\_ If he's speaking in general terms then he's
babbling spew since the topic was very specifically
about mail spools on soda. Not network attached
raid at work, not an 8 year old disk, not some
bullshit scenario you're likely to conjure to make
a false point. Mail spools on soda belong in
home directories or the spools themselves should
be hard quoted at a low number like 2 megs. Deal
with your fucking mail and it won't be a problem.
\_ most of the people on root either dont leave
their mail on soda or at least have it delivered
via .forward to another filesystem.
\_ Something others should think about.
\_ HEY PHILLIP, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO 'DEAL' WITH OUR PEERS? SEND
THEM E-MAIL EXPRESSING OUR DISAPPOINTMENT AT THE FULLNESS OF THEIR
MAIL SPOOLS? USE THOUGHTWAVES TO COMPEL THEM TO READ THE MOTD AND
FEEL DEEP SHAME ABOUT THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THEIR NAME APPEARS
THEREIN? OR PAY OUR HOMIES TO TAKE OUT A HIT ON THESE NON-PLAYAS?
\_ Shotguns. Phillip.
\_ alias annoy 'echo ^G >>/dev/`who | grep \!:1 | cut -c 10-15`'
\_ mesg n |
| 1999/12/2-3 [Consumer/CellPhone] UID:16991 Activity:kinda low |
12/2 What's the difference between Nokia 6160, 6162, 6192, and 6190?
They all look the same!
\_ Unfortunately, nobody can be told what the matrix is.
\_ 6162 and 6192 have the flip. All are functionally the same.
The 616X uses TDMA technology (specifically for CellularOne)
while 619x uses GSM technology (specifically for Pacbell).
\_ 619x (or is it 618x) can be used with CellularOne.
\_ 6185 works with Sprint PCS. No flip.
\_ No, 619x can only be used with Pac Bell, these are the
phones with smart chip . Only PacBell support smart chips.
\ WTF is a smart chip ?
\_ Yes. All other phones use Idiot Chips. |
| 1999/12/2 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:16992 Activity:high |
12/2 Kudos to http://Amazon.com and http://yahoo.com. They are 10X faster (in web page responce time) than http://cdnow.com, <DEAD>bn.com<DEAD>, http://borders.com, etc. Does anyone know what kind of DB backends these web sites use? \_ I've heard that yahoo! uses sleepycat. \_ Response time isn't solely limited to DB backends. They may split up incoming requests to more machines or use caching accelerators, etc. |