11/30   how do program a matrix? (use a sparse matrix) ie: i want to track
        and keep track of a person as to where they are in solving something
        (like following an specified path)- where they are at in a path, the
        path can have many entry points to the main road (or trunk of a tree).
        any ideas? thanks
        \_ Learn English and pick on an assignment your own size. -- ilyas
        \_ Well, this is such an unclear question, I can't even begin to answer
           it (I could guess what you mean, but why?).  Try asking the question
           using more words in a newsgroup.
        \_ Unfortunately, no one can be told what the matrix is, they
           must see it for themself...
           \_ Batman.
        \_ I did that once and all that happened was they made this weird
           movie that bugged mothers because it had trench coats in it.  Dunno.

 11/31   Right. So basically I went to the ASUC meeting.  I'm suppoesd to
        inform any active csua members that if they are suspicsious of
        any cult activity of this student group, then there is a Cult
        Awerness Officer which the CAL/SAS has that will investigate any
        Cult Activity.  There.  I've told you. - paolo
        \_ Dude, my cousin's wedding was in a Clam building.
        \_ does anyone else see the irony of Sodans talking about cults?
                \_ No.  Please explain.
           \_ I am a Sodan of the Third Wheel.  Are you in need of a Squishing?
        \_ What is the definition of a cult?  Aren't pretty much all
           religions cults?  For example, what would you call a group
           of people who get together and pretend to drink their ex-leaders
           blood and eat his body?  The same group also think that their
           current leader talks directly to their God.  Would you call
           this group a Cult or would you call them Catholics?  Are the
           ASUC going to investigate all the religious groups on campus?
           \_ I would call them orthodox catholic and therefore not a cult.
           \_ If it's big then it must be true.  If it's small it must be a
              Satan spawned cult until it grows big at which point it must be
              true.
        \_ There's one on the corner of Dana and Haste.  They call themselves
           a religious co-op.  Co-op my ass.  I got invited to dinner by
           them.  They were preaching to me to join their fucked up little
           world.  Damn fools need a beating.  They keep following me around
           on campus.
           \_ Why would you go to a free dinner at a bible meeting?  What the
              fuck did you think was going to happen?  Free sex and drugs?  I
              have zero sympathy for your dumb ass.
              \_ who said i accepted the dinner you dumbshit?
                \_ maybe you should with that curse'd tongue of yours-Ma Teresa
           \_ i used to have a couple freinds there.  if you ignore their
              crazy religious crap, it is actually a very functional co-op.
              after living in the USCA, i would have to say that except
              for the religion, the usca could learn alot from them about
              how to run good student housing at reasonable prices and
              have everyone actually do their share.  this pattern can
              be seen throughout history: the only people who can make
              crazy experiments in communal living actually work are religious
              nuts.  eg amana, oneida, the shakers etc.
        \_ also no hazing.  I don't know if a requirement of a knowledge
           of unix can be classified as hazing (I mean they had some pretty
           broad definitions in the packet (yes there's a 15 pg packet)
           all of which are completely subjective (with words like
           "personal" "degredation" "humiliation").  I suppose then it's
           good that most people turn off the motd  and don't wall because
           i think that may be classified as hazing.  So people, don't haze!
        \_ I want to be the first to go on record that I tihnk the csua has
           definate cult activity.  Hell, I'll even go so far as to call it
           Cult Activity.  IS the Cult Awareness Officer required to justify
           his or her capital letters and investigate now? -aspo
           \_ Arrgghh. Look, I'm _required_ to report to the CAO if
              any current member suspects cult activity.  I don't want to
              do that.
              \_ all those capitals!  Think of it!  What exactly happens if
                 they investigate? -aspo
                 \_ They execute obnoxious assholes like you I think.  It was
                    somewhere in the back of the 15 pages.
                    \_ even better -aspo
                    \_ alas no, remember this is berkeley, home of the PC
        and the "convenience free" zone.  So if anything, they'll just make
        life hard for the csua, alums and undergrads alike, something i don't
        think anyone here wants. - paolo
        \_ Nov 31?  Nov 30?  Are we getting ahead of ourselves? (its Nov 29)
           \_ When they say, "The plane is on fire, the engine is dead, we're
              all going to die!" Do you say, "What color is my luggage?"
              - alum
                \_ Yes.  I like to know that I'm going out in style.
           \_ Not to mention there is no Nov 31.
        \_ CalLUG is definitely a cult.  I insist you report them immediately
           Paolo.  Maybe that will keep your moronic ass out of our hair.

        World-Wide Web Access Statistics for the Unification Home Page at <DEAD>www.cais.com<DEAD>
        [deleted for being totally pointless and context free]

11/30   In pre 1900 convention, we've always used 95, 98, etc to represent
        year. For example, 1/1/99, Winblows 98, Office 97, Norton Util 95.
        We use that convention even on check books and contracts. For
        year 2000, are we expected to write 2000, 2001, 2002? Is it
        acceptable to just write 0? For example, 1/1/0 instead of 1/1/2000?
        \_ just write 1/1/ instead of 1/1/00 or 1/1/0. The 0 is implied.
         \_Thanks :)
        \_ <DEAD>www.namethedecade.com<DEAD>
           \_ Vote "Naughties"!!!
              \_ And wear them like a jewel!
        \_ Don't be a twit.
        \_ You were around before 1900?  I didn't think the CSUA had any
           members over 99 years old...
        \_ Look at the expiration date on your credit card moron.

11/30   Happy Birthday, dawne!
        \_ Is dawne now expected to call you a twink for not signing your name?
                \_ Dawn has strong motd-fu, and does not need signatures. She
                   just knows...
         \_ isn't that "Happy Birthday, it!"

11/30   Hi, I'm looking for a reference CD-ROM on trees and plants. I went
        to a couple of Frys stores and they didn't seem to have it.  I'm
        wondering if encyclopedia CD-ROMs have that info.  Stuff like
        temperature and water requirements for trees and plants, what kind of
        soil they need, etc.  Thanks.
        \_ http://www.sunset.com/Books/cdroms/WesternGardenCD.html (Sunset
           Magazine's _Western Garden Book_ on CD-ROM.) -- kahogan
           \_ Thanks a lot kahogan!

11/30   Does anyone know what the steaming factory next to the West Oakland
        BART station does?  During morning commute hours there's often a very
        strong alcohol-like smell near there, so strong that if I forget to
        turn off the A/C in my car when I drive by there, my car will be filled
        with that smell within seconds.
        \_ It's West Oakland's natural scent (the smell of gangs and cronies)
        \_ They produce cyanide ther for the medical industry.
        \_ They produce cyanide there for the medical industry.
        \_ alcohol-like smell?  probably baking bread for the day...
        \_ They produce high-test malt liquor for the indigenous population.

11/30   how do program a matrix? (use a sparse matrix) ie: i want to track
        \_ See ucb.class.cs61a, thread "What is the Matrix?"
        and keep track of a person as to where they are in solving something
        (like following an specified path)- where they are at in a path, the
        path can have many entry points to the main road (or trunk of a tree).
        any ideas? thanks
        \_ Learn English and pick on an assignment your own size. -- ilyas
        \_ Well, this is such an unclear question, I can't even begin to answer
           it (I could guess what you mean, but why?).  Try asking the question
           using more words in a newsgroup.
        \_ Unfortunately, no one can be told what the matrix is, they
           must see it for themself...
           \_ Batman.
              \_ Genital Herpes.  definitely.
        \_ I did that once and all that happened was they made this weird
           movie that bugged mothers because it had trench coats in it.  Dunno.

11/30   Does anyone in Santa Clara want to be my mule? -sky

11/30   living room for rent: /csua/pub/housing/CollegeAveApt.99
        \_ damn, im glad i dont live in berkeley anymore. thats twice what i
           pay for a whole floor of a house in a nice neighborhood.

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        \_ damn, i wish a 9.0 earthquake would hit, fuck up all of silicon
           valley, and get housing/rental costs back to normal.
           \_ That won't change anything.  A huge stock market crash would put
              lots of housing on the market for cheap though.
                \_ how's that?  A stock market crash doesn't really hurt
                   the people who already have bought.  -tom
                \_ Some of us secretly hope for even that.
                   \_ Sure, as long as you're not affected by layoffs or
                      in some similar fashion. --dim
                        \_ Wouldn't matter.  I can get a loan for a cheap
                           house without IPO money.  I'll never get enough
                           money for a house as things are without it.  Any
                           job will get me a cheap house.  Bring on the
                           layoffs.

11/30   Happy Birthday, paolo! -suzuki

11/30   Is there a way to use trn to connect to an NNTP server that
        requires a login and password? -brianm
        \_ trn4 supports NNTP authentication, and despite being in beta
           for the last 4 years is more stable than 3.6
           \_ Right.  Where in the man page or documentation is the
              explanation of how to actually authenticate?

11/30   http://news.excite.com/news/r/991129/18/life-penis about man suing
        Starbucks for crushing his penis.  $500,000 to his wife for loss of
        his services.
        \_ BANG!  Judgment is in favor of the plaintiff, $500 for the
           price of one deluxe vibrator and a life-time's supply of batteries,
           in lieu of your husband's services.