11/18   I'm trying to install Java 1.2 but it doesn't work on my Solaris 5.6
        box. According to the Sun site I need to download 15 megs of kernel
        patch. Why the hell do I have to do this?
        \_ because threading is slightly broken in 5.6.
           If you can, get a list of the patches. You might already have
           one or more of them installed.

11/18   So what's up with needing a compiler to install gcc?  If i had one
        i wouldn't need gcc.  Also, anyone know where i can download Korn
        or Bash for a Sun Ultra 5 running SunOS 5.7 (without a compiler!)
        -new to this stuff.
        \_ you need a compiler to bootstrap the compiler you want to make
           from source. e.g. the gnu binaries cd will have one. you can
           also download binaries from http://www.sunfreeware.com
                                       \_ man pkgadd helps too
        \_ Korn is already on Solaris - /bin/ksh
        \_ Hand coded assembly.  Wimp.

11/18   Sick and tired of using emacs, vi, and pico. Are there any good
        (powerful) Java editors around? Thanks.
        \_ Editors for writing Java, or editors written in Java?
        \_ No.
        \_ I like IBM's VisualAge/Java:
           http://www-4.ibm.com/software/ad/vajava

11/18   Trevor strikes again in ucb.class.cs61c, this time bragging
        about his relations with women.
        \_ He is amusing, gotta give him that. But it begs the question:
           is he abusive and harrassing only in front of a computer
           screen (like many a motd'er), or is he like this in person?
           \_ Personally, I think this Trevor guy is a fictional
              character.  Nobody (either in person or on the newsgroup)
              could be so obnoxious and vulgar (not even in the CSUA).
        \_ Once again proved that he's dork with his half baked
           Japanese
           \_ What did his japanese say?
        \_ Trevor is my lover!  Trevor has got more game than all you geeks
           combined!  -movie star/model/actress with 4.0 GPA in love with TB.
           \_ Trever is gay! He just brags about women to make is BF's jealous.
        \_ This may be an ignorant question, but shouldn't someone from the
           class staff or even Prof. Culler himself should yank him out of
           the class or better yet, have the University expel him for vulgarism
           on a public (class) newsgroup? Or do they just don't give a fuck?
                \_ Why should they care?  By expelling him or taking other
                   action, they'd be giving him the attention he craves.  Does
                   he have a soda account?  He'd be a fun addition to the motd.
           \_ Why? He's an excellent student and the caliber of student that
              we here at Cal admire. Plus, he's loaded so we don't have to
              give him financial aid.

11/18   In this day and age, is it really worth getting a Masters in C.S.?
        Esp. those with experience already.
        \_ Yes and no.  There are pros and cons
           \_ Well put.
           \_ Do you want to wave that degree around like some big dick, or
              just use the time to get more experience and $$$ ?
              \_ why, to wave it around like some big dick of course!  What
                 else would you use it for?  I'm sure the paper it's printed
                 on is probably too coarse for use as toilet paper....

11/18   Webmaster position at Cisco.  See /csua/pub/jobs/cisco_webmaster.
        -cathyg

11/18   Informal poll, mark all that apply or add your own:
        I am/was:
                Trevor Buckinham: 3
                Trevor Buckinham fan club member: 1
                Trevor Buckinham f***ed over your friend: 1
                Trevor Buckinham f***ed your friend: 1
                Staff and was treated like shit and make a ton of dough now: 3
                A proud Cal alumni working on a successful career: 9
                A bitter Cal alumni working on a successful carreer: 2
                Ambivalent about Cal and making a ton of dough anyway: 3
                A junior transfer and thought Cal was just fine: 2
                A junior transfer and thought Cal was brutal: 0
                Was a Cal freshman and thought Cal was just fine: 8
                Was a Cal freshman and thought Cal was "okay": 2
                Was a Cal freshman and thought Cal was brutal: 6
                Too bitter to give a shit about this stupid discussion: 3.14159
                Slacker barely made it thru, still got high paying job: 7
                Work for a startup, still busting my ass: 3
                Don't even have a CS/EECS degree, making lots of $$$: 5
                Busted their ass for a degree unrelated to their job: 0
        \_ This poll is not accurate. That is why we need Happy Poll back!!!
           \_ What about the fetish poll. It was taken down too soon!!!
                \_ yeah b1ff r3wls!!! kchang is 31337! get kchang back!!!
                  \_ FREE KCHANG!!!
                \_ It's as accurate as any other poll where someone pays the
                   polling company 6 figures to come out with the right version
                   of public opinion.  The difference is this poll isn't trying
                   to deceive you or the rest of the public into anything.

11/18   Bet your junior prom wasn't like this:
        http://tube.mit.edu/~marco/JuniorProm.jpg
        \_ Some of the others in the same directory are worth a click.
          \_ damn they're gone now.
                \_ limbo was classic.  Someone's mom is really proud right
                   about now seeing her bimbo daughter's pic on the net drunk
                   with no panties doing the limbo for a camera.
        \_ Damn those kids looked young.  Sure it wasn't Jr. High prom?
                or am I just getting too old?
           \_ Had to be junior high.  No fucking way those were 16 year olds.
              The girl didn't even have PH#1 yet.
                                        \_ what?
                                           \_ "Pubic Hair #1".

11/18   What's the max. 401(k) contribution limit for tax years 1999 and
        2000?  Thx.
        \_ Unless something's changed, it's $10k
           \_ That's what I heard too, but on page 3 of
              http://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p560.pdf it says the limit
              is $6k.  What gives?
              \_ Are you working for a small business that only offers a
                 Simple 401k?
                 \_ Yeah, about 20 employees, and the employer doesn't match
                    my contribution.
                   \_ if the employer doesn't match, according to that 560 pub
                      it's not a SIMPLE 401k.  it's probably a normal one
                      and 10k limit. -oj
                      \_ I see.  Thanks.
                \_ Be careful. That word does not mean what you think it means.
                   (Where the IRS is concerned nothing is simple, and a Simple
                    401k is more complicated than simply a standard 401k.)
           \_ What if I'm married and filing tax jointly with my working
              spouse?
        \_ Ask HR or a CPA - much more reliable than the motd.
        \_ For 1999 it was $10,000, for 2000 it has been increased to $10,500
                --someone who has one and contributes the maximum

11/18   I'm trying to test out smbclient with a friend of mine but I keep
        getting this error message:
        $ echo hello | smbclient -M my.friends.ip
        Added interface ip=192.168.8.5 bcast=192.168.8.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
        session request failed
        Does the other computer have to be in the same subnet for samba
        to work?
        \_ I've never got -M to work.  Try -L to list his shares.  No it will
           cross subnets, routers, switches, hubs, gateways, etc, no problem.
           Check the samba docs for the 'official' way to test a connection.
           \_ naw, it did the same thing.  But it did at least give out
              an IP address this time.
                \_ Firewalls?  Can you ping?  Is he exporting any shares?
                   Does he have the "Server" service running on the 'd0ze side?
                   \_ no, no firewalls.  he and his roomate have a multiple
                      ip dsl line and they both can see each other's windoze
                      services.  i can't for some reason.  i'm behind a
                      linux firewall though.
                        \_ Turn off firewall and try again.
        \_ http://us1.samba.org/samba/ftp/docs/textdocs/DIAGNOSIS.txt
           is real useful whenever I'm trying to find out what I've done wrong
                \_ That's the thing I was refering to earlier but was too lazy
                   to find.  "the official way to test a connection".  Anyway,
                   since we haven't heard back, he either gave up or it was the
                   firewall.
                   \_ Well, I tried it from the gateway itself (no natd or
                      IP masq) and turned off all the firewall rules and
                      I got the same error messages.  So yes, I did give up.
                        \_ smbclient -L HIS.IP.ADDRESS doesn't give a password
                           prompt after saying session failed?  It sounds like
                           there's something really simple going on.  Minor
                           config error.

11/18   If you're living in SoCal and are looking to work with academic
        type people:  Part-time coder needed for a UCLA-derived group.
        /csua/pub/jobs/glomosim. -jctwu
        \_ so, cleaning my professor's toilet would count eh?