Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:November:15 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
1999/11/15-16 [Computer/SW/Mail] UID:16883 Activity:low
11/11   I'm trying to configure a sendmail server to allow legit Berkeley
        students to use it as an smtp server but not allow spam.  Is there
        a way to do this?  It seems like uclink4 allows external ISPs to
        utilize it as an outgoing mail server while filtering out spam
        \_ Isn't there a way to look at the return address and make sure
           that it's coming from Berkeley?
        \_ set the rberkeley ip address ranges into your relayok file.
        \add something like FEATURE(access_db, dbm -o /etc/mail/access)dnl
        and then add 128.32 RELAY or something like that or more risky but
        more flexible building with: FEATURE(relay_local_from)dnl
        will will mail as long as a local domain smtp sender is specifed
        or "faked". this doesnt impact spam filtering but might allow relaying.
        really you are more likely to get blacklisted for this than used as a
        relay. --psb
        \_ You're much better off using SMTP Authentication, or for the brave,
           Sendmail/TLS then IP range based relaying.  There are quite a few
           hacks involving watching pop/imap logs and editing the realyok file
           but they are pretty damn kludgy.  And I don't know if I would use
           uclink4 as a good example of how things should be run.
1999/11/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:16884 Activity:kinda low
11/14   Is it against the rules to leave a process(/cron job) on Soda
        running that, say, checks a web page every minute and if it
        changes mails me?
        \_ webwatch!
           \_  URL?
        \_ Why run it on soda?  Why in cron?
1999/11/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16885 Activity:high
11/14   For me, on average, Netscape Mail on NT crashes once every week.
        It also crashes the browser. I've switched to IE and I gotta say...
        it's quite stable. Fuck Netscape. They keep blaming their stupid
        software on MS secret API. Why can't they just admit that they
        have a friggin big ass slow bloatware.
        \_ Here's a secret:  Netscape doesn't care about the mail client.
                They sell server software.
        \_ Same would go for their browser also. IE5 runs circles
        around the latest NS browser in terms of speed and stability.
                \_ I guess they don't care about that either.
                   \_ Netscape hasn't been a browser/client company for a long
                      time.  Netscape is now Netcenter and a brand name.  Why
                      use a browser from a portal company?  Do you (the
                      generic 'you') use the yahoo browser or the lycos
                      client?  Then why use the Netscape one?  It sucks and
                      has sucked for a long time.  Few hate M$ more than me,
                      but I'm not going to use the crummier NS products over
                        \_ It feels guilty to have to defend a u$oft
                           product. But the facts are clear in this case.
                           \_ It hurt to write, but yeah, the M$ stuff >> NS.
        \_ Use mutt! It's fast, versatile, and has a nice, small
           memory footprint.
            soda> size `which mutt`
            text        data    bss     dec     hex
            409600      20480   8248    438328  6b038
             \_ Lynx is smaller and never crashes but you get what you pay for.
        \_ Use VM in NT emacs.
                \_ XEmacs on NT
                        \_ Use Emacs in VM/CMS
1999/11/15-16 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:16886 Activity:high
11/14   What is the "zero emission rule"? That all car makers need to produce
        electric cars by year 20XX? I don't get why e-cars are considered
        zero emission. If many drive a electric cars, wouldn't there be a
        bigger demand on power plants that also pollute?
        \_ Electric cars are all about making you dependant on the Government
           and attacking your manhood.
        \_ 1) Power plants tend to have more effecient generators
           2) Power plants are one location and therefore it is easier to
              reduce emmisions at that one point with strict enforcement
              of pollution laws.
           3) There is clean power (but then again we are using it already...)
           4) Power plants tend not to be in high polution areas.  One of the
              major problems with pollution is the concentration in one area.
              Spread the pollution around some and it can b ehandled by
              natural means.
              \_ also there is the fact that it's alot easier logistically
                 to convert centralized power generation to new sources
                 than individual energy sources from cars;  If fusion
                 became practical in the near future, say with those big
                 tokomak reactors, there'sno way you could use that for cars
                 unless they were electric  and the energy was generated
                 in a cetral location.  this means that people working on
                 alternative energy like fusion can wroy less about
                 scaling problems, and be assured that they can make billions
                 and help the environment quickly, rather than having to deal
                 with auto manufacturers and their ilk.
                \_ Ah I see. Zero emission simply means "pollute somewhere
                   else"... and that reduces the amount of pollution which
                   will slow down global warming. Sure, that makes sense now.
                   \_ What parts of 1, 2 and 3 didn't you understand?  Also
                      many forms of pollution can be disposed of by the
                      ecosystem in limited amounts.  The problem is places
                      have gone way above those amounts.
1999/11/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16887 Activity:nil
11/14   Is it just me, or that default Netscape download program is really
        annoying? (everytime I download, Netscape advertisements come up)
        \_ It's just you.  Why did you feel the need to post the obvious to
           the motd?  Oh, nevermind....
1999/11/15-16 [Industry/Startup] UID:16888 Activity:kinda low
11/15   I'm coming to Berkeley to interview for my company on friday.  The
        company is Inventa, which is an internet consulting company.  Check
        out for more information.  In brief, we are in the
        business-to-business eCommerce market.  We are looking for people
        with technical skills, read C++ or Java.  Our competitors are Scient,
        Viant, and Sapient, but we are not yet public.  In my experience this
        is a great company that has given me great opportunities.  If you
        have any questions you can reach me at  -Andreas
        \_ Usualy the list of B2B players includes Active Software,
           Neon, TibCo, Vitria (at least until they die), and newcomer
           Oracle.  Never heard of Inventa.
           \_ I believe they are like a system integrator. I don't think
              they have a real product. Just resell service..
           \_ Read their website.  They aren't really a B2B company
              but that's the hot buzzword right now so they use it.
              They are yet another web deployment/customization service with
              a specialty in eCom.
1999/11/15-16 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:16889 Activity:nil
11/15   How do I clear the cache of lynx?  I am trying to log onto a page
        and it is (mis?)informing me that i am doing so from a cached
        \_ It caches?
1999/11/15-16 [Uncategorized] UID:16890 Activity:nil
11/15   &  :  ampersand  ::  @  : ___?___
        \_ at sign
        \_ alt.usage.english: 'The longest name for "@" is
           "commercial at sign"; the first and last words may each be
           omitted.  The official ANSI/CCITT name is "commercial at".'
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