11/06   I didn't like the motd.  I sure as hell didn't like Adobe being on
        there.  Nothing personal.  I just don't like the way the company
        name sounds when spoken aloud.
        \_ "Elbereth!"
        \_ What company name do you like to hear spoken aloud?
                \_ Most anything else is ok, but Abode just bugs me.
                   \_ 'Abode' bothers you also?

Leviticus 19:19: "Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy
cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with
mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come
upon thee."

So if your Hawaiian shirt is made of mixed fibers, it violates the laws
of Moses. ;)
        \_ You're reading a 6th generation translation.  The passage is
           talking about not mixing races, not your tshirt fibers.

 11.8   pop quiz - 83 people.  $3000 up front, $10/mo or so, how do we get
        fast net?
        \_ But where?
        \_ <DEAD>www.bandwidthcoop.com<DEAD>
        \_ Do you live in the USCA Co-ops?  Make it a capital expense off your
           house's long term improvements budget and run as much net as you
           can get away with which should "include future bandwidth growth
           needs and scalability as high bandwidth content becomes more
           common and even required on the net".  You can get the Central
           Level to eat %100 of the up front cost and probably most or even
           all of the monthly charges if you do it right.  -USCA Veteran
        \_ the USCA?  Ethernet jacks in every room?  "It can't be done."
           (or prove me wrong)
           \_ weren't they gonna do this in cloyne, what, 4 years ago?  5?
           \_ It can be done.  Go read the alumni newsletters on their site.
              (PDF).  Gordon Moore of Intel is a USCA Alum and Intel is
              donating some unspecified design and architecture skills to
              the project.  Wouldn't be surprised if they threw some hardware
              at it as well.  You'll be proven wrong.  Probably not this year
              as the USCA is *s-l-o-w* but probably in the next 3 or 4 years.
              \_ unless the maintenance manager sells all the stuff to buy
                speed.  given the size of your co-op i think i know which
                one youre in and i think you know what i'm talking about.
                you can buy alot of 8-balls for the price of a p-III.
                \_ The capital improvements budget is drug free.  -USCA Vet.
              \_ "Super."
                 (As you can see, I'm expressing the same wary hopefulness
                  I put into the Cal football team.)
                \_ Just one more way to fluff workshift hours as the Computer
                   Manager and the Computer Manager's two five hour/week
                   assistants.  No experience required, of course.  A shared
                   network and a sniffer might prove interesting in most of
                   the houses.
                   \_ Why when switches are so cheap nowadays? --dim
                        \_ Because one hub per floor or per building or
                           whatever would add so much more grease to the
                           gossip mill.  Not like everyone doesn't already
                           know who cheats on who with who but it could add
                           a whole new dimension to it.

11/8    nesim    Pu  nesim.HIP.Berkel  8:49PM 17:03 pico /etc/motd.public
        \_ what about this?
                \_ It's self evident.
        \_ Maybe nesim was accidentally disconnected by a bad modem
           connection?  -- yuen
                \_ "Pico: The Toy that Thinks it's an Editor (tm)"
                   \_ Pico-chu!  The 154th Pokemon!
                      \_ Must collect ALL Chimpokomon!

11.8    Vote NO on the new sports referendum - why?
        -it raises money to maintain non-revenue men's sports, and doesn't
         raise money for women's sports.
        -the bulk of the money raised will be spent on expanding the RSF.
        -it will raise your student fees by over $130 next year, and cause
         subsequent fee increases of over $200 over the next three or four
         years.
         \- YOU CANNOT STOP MY DESIRE FOR CHIKS IN TIGHTS SO GIVE IT UP
        -the bulk of the money raised will be spent on expanding the RSF.
        -it will raise your student fees by over $130 next year, and cause
         subsequent fee increases of over $200 over the next three or four
         years.
        \_ and money has already been allocated for the RSF, and Title IX
           is supposed to take care of balancing men's and women's sports.
        \_ I'm not on campus so I don't know the details but if this is a
           "should we charge ourselves a few bucks for sports stuff", you
           should vote no on the general principle that fees like this never
           go away, never go down, and never end up spent on the stuff they're
           supposed to be spent on.  Go check out your latest CARS statement.
           (Or whatever they call the billing system now).  See the "Campus
           Fee"?  How much?  It started in the 70's as a $10 fee.  Think about
           it.  Yes, I also vote against all bond measures and other forms
           of tax-n-spend take-from-the-middle-class-to-give-to-the-government
           programs.  Never vote to tax yourself.  Someone else is always happy
           to do that for you.

11.8    Looking for really cheap CD labeller and labeller program. Suggestion?
        \_ sharpie marker
         \_ NeatO
                \_ http://neato.com not cheap
        \_ Permanent Marker (tm). Cost: $1-$2.