Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:October:04 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>
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1999/10/4 [Recreation/Humor] UID:16653 Activity:high
10/4    Its not funny anymore. Really... its not.
        \_ Was it ever funny?
1999/10/4 [Uncategorized] UID:16654 Activity:nil
10/3    Does the 200MHz bus on athlon make a difference over intel's 133?
        \_ I personally like the Asus V-3800 which is TNT2 based.
        \_ Linux r00lz!!!!!1!!
1999/10/4-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:16655 Activity:nil
10/04 There will be a CSUA Politburo meeting this Thursday, 5pm.
      CS Undergraduate Lounge, Third Floor Soda Hall.
1999/10/4-5 [Reference/Celebration, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16656 Activity:high
10/4    HAPPY BIRTHDAY SANDRA ALIEN HOBAG BIOTCH
        \_ Alien hobag biotch?  Is this an inside joke?
           \_ No.  She really is an alien hobag biotch.  --pld
                \_ To wit:
                soda> finger -mp alien
                Login: alien                   Name: Sandra Alien Hobag Biotch
                Directory: /home/digital/alien Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh
                HTH. HAND.
1999/10/4-5 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16657 Activity:very high
10/4    Do "dir *1.*" and "dir *2.*" mean anything special in NT Command
        Prompt?  I tried them and the output contain some filenames that
        don't even contain '1' or '2'.  Thanks.
        \_ NT doesn't do full regexp's on the command line the way unix does.
           Try 4dos/4nt/4os/4whatever from http://jpsoft.com if you want that.
           \_ This is not the problem.  And unix (sic) doesn't do full
              regexp's (sic) on the command line (sic) either.  --pld
                \_ Idiot.  There isn't a correct spelling for "regexp".  It's
                   not a real word.  "unix" is the correct spelling for the
                   word unless you're talking about AT&T UNIX(TM) which we're
                   not and the word "line" was correctly spelled.  And no shit
                   unix doesn't do full regexp's on the command line but it
                   does do *1.* which is all the person cared about.  You're a
                   fucking pedantic twink and you added zero content.
                   \_ Here's your content: (sic) doesn't mean "misspelled".
                      I'd have deleted the answer for being incorrect and
                      misleading, but some twink like you would have re-added
                      it.  See below for a correct response.  --pld
                      \_ Worse than being stupid is being stupid and thinking
                         you're right.  "sic" means "spelling incorrect".  You
                         are beyond stupid.  The answer lies in the shell being
                         unable to do what s/he wants.  http://jpsoft.com can do that.
                         Saying, "win95 has long file names!!!" is worthless.
                         How'd you sneak into Cal?  Or have standards really
                         dropped so low that they now socially promote morons
                         straight into what used to be top notch universities?
                         \_ Worse than that is adamantly promoting
                            error.  "sic" does *not* mean "spelling
                            incorrect"--it is from latin, and means
                            "thus".  It is typically used when quoting
                            text to roughly mean "I'm quoting this guy
                            exactly, so please don't tell me I've made a
                            mistake--it was his mistake."  In this case,
                            I assume it was used because "Unix" is
                            usually capitalized (and is a trademark of
                            AT&T, right?).  Furthermore, you usually
                                \_ Unix hasn't been a trademark of AT&T for
                                   about a decade, since they spun off USL,
                                   which they later sold to Novell, who gave
                                   the trademark to X/Open (now part of The
                                   Open Group) to use with their standards.
                                   Any OS meeting the X/Open requirements can
                                   now call itself "Unix (TM)" (or a more
                                   specific term like "Unix95",
                                   "Unix98 Desktop", "Unix98 Server").
                            don't put apostrophe-s at the end of a word
                            to make it plural (though it is acceptable
                            usage for acronymns, etc. so is probably
                            okay for "regexp").
                            \_ No, no, no.  When you're quoting another and
                               you're quoting *their* mincorrectly spelled
                               text, you use "sic" to state that you're aware
                               the spelling is incorrect and you're just
                               quoting it that way.  "thus"?  No.  That makes
                               no sense.  It's a journalism thing in modern
                               English.  No matter what the original latin
                               intended.
                               \_ You are correct in stating correct usage for
                               [sic] but the etimology of the word is indeed
                               Latin. -- ilyas
                                \_ I'm not denying a latin origin.  I'm saying
                                   it doesn't matter.  Looking in one's
                                   Latin 10 Latin->English dictionary won't
                                   yield the correct modern/journalism usage.
                                   That's all.
                               \_ etimology[sic]. You mean etymology. --dim
                        \- 1. sic is indeed latin. reasonable translations are
          "thus" or "so, but the most natural obviously depends on the context.
          2. i will make a wager with anyone who claims it only means "a mis-
          spelling inthe original". it can be used as a "disclaimer" about
          spelling errors, grammatical errors, factual errors...whatever. this
          is a pretty funny "classic soda" thread. sic vos non vobis, --psb
        \_ remember Win95 long filenames kluge?  Therein lies your answer.
           \_ Sorry, I don't know about that in Win95 either.  Can you please
              elaborate?  Thanks.
              \_ Long filenames show up in dos 8.3 format as something
                 like "filena~1.txt" -- that is, filenames are
                 truncated, with a "~" char and a number to
                 disambiguate.  Hence any file with more than 8 chars
                 before the extension or more than one dot will end in
                 "~#".  So the pattern above can match *a lot* of files.
                 \_ Unless you grab one of the command line replacements
                    from http://jpsoft.com which handles this as you'd expect with
                    out using the odd 8.3 LFN kludge as you'd not expect.
1999/10/4-5 [Health/Dental] UID:16658 Activity:moderate
10/4    Anyone know a good place in Berkeley, or anywhere close to it, to
        get your wisdom teeth yoinked?
                \_ Yoink is such a funny word. Haha.
        \_ ED!  ED!  ED is the STANDARD!  Wisdom Tooth Yoinker.
        \_ Yoink is such a funny word. Haha.
           \_ http://im13.curtisfong.org/phorum/list.php3?num=4&
        \_ Why don't people ever sign their names when making requests?
           Blaine Honda on Hearst is good dentist, should be able to
           make good referral.  -jor
        \_ I had a fantastic and totally pain free yoinking (just going with
           the flow here...heh) but since you didn't sign your name, I don't
           know where to email his name and # to make sure you got it.
1999/10/4 [Computer/Networking] UID:16659 Activity:high
10/4/99 Would someone please tell me what it would take to get a linux box
        to accept a T-1 and act as a router.  That is how much would the
        card cost that has the right interface to work with a dsu/csu?
        \_ http://www.sangoma.com  The cards cost about $800 and include
           a built in csu/dsu.  I have a half dozen of them installed
           and they work pretty well. Lemme know if you have any more
           questions. -ERic  (in yet another rare helpful motd posting)
           \_ ACK!  A truly useful answer on the motd!  Someone delete this
              quick!
           \_ [deleted]
              \_ OK.
1999/10/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16660 Activity:high
10/4    does anyone know how to script the password for rsync over ssh?
        \_ Don't.  Instead use RSA rhosts, that is: on the target machine
           (the one you'll be sshing _to_), put the hostname and username
           you'll be sshing from into the file ~/.shosts (man rhosts for
           format).  Then make sure you ssh at least once from the target
           machine and the target account _back_ to the machine you'll be
           normally running rsync on to get its host key in place.  Then
           your script won't need to type a password, but it's much much
           more secure than a real .rhosts file.  Yadda yadda.. security
           risk since you don't need to type a password as that user yadda
           yadda.  --dbushong
           \_ huh? No, use the authorized_keys file, to avoid
              spoofing.
              \_  This is the approach I've used.  --PeterM
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:October:04 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>