Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:August:24 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>
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1999/8/24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16381 Activity:nil 50%like:17550
8/23    Troll about deleting trolls deleted.  Thank you for playing.
1999/8/24-25 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:16382 Activity:very high
8/23    Help me choose a linux!  Any recommendation on what kind of linux
        package I should get?  I just want able to do gcc/emacs on x-windows,
        and being able to get onto the internet. I don't have much unix
        background, I am looking for a package that make the installation of
        the OS easier.
        I am leaning toward SuSE just because it has WordPerfect as part of
        distribution (don't laugh).  Any recommendation against this?
        FYI, I am buying the software for the support, as I am close to
        in terms of installation/administration
        --kngharv
        \_ You can do gcc, emacs, X, get on the net, and use wordperfect on
           a windows system.  What was it you wanted linux for since you don't
           seem interested in learning unix?
           \_ Actually, I *AM* interested in learning unix... is gcc, emacs
              pretty much as part of standard linux package?
                \_ Oh.  Nevermind the windows comments then.
        \_ FreeBSD.
        \_ Any linux distribution will have all this.  -tom
           \_ SCO!
        \_ Solaris 7 is free to students -- just pay shipping.
        \_ RedHat is easiest to install.
        \_ Debian is all free software.
        \_ FreeBSD.
1999/8/24-25 [Science/Electric, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:16383 Activity:nil
8/23    http://www.eet.com/story/OEG19990823S0062
        KEENE, England - Building on research done at Keele University,
        startup Keele High Density Ltd. aims to commercialize a memory
        technology it says could store 2,300 Gbytes of rewritable
        random-access data on a device the size of a credit card. That is
        equivalent to an areal density of 86 Gbytes per square centimeter.
        --jon
        \_ Thiis is complete crap. The only way to increase information
        density is to decrease the physical size of a bit, which is
        currently about 1 square micron on optical devices. The only
        feasible way to do
        this is using near-field techniques to read an write bits much smaller
        than the wavelength of light, but you can't use it for multilayer
        devices, and its somewhat like CD or DVD technology in that everyone has
        a finger in the pie.
                \_ It's possible they have developed something completely new
                   but I doubt it.  It's a hoax.
        \_ Old news.  They have nothing but a theory, and I've read some
           other stuff which says this can't be verified by calling the
           University.  This is likely a hoax at worst, a pipe dream at
           best.
1999/8/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:16384 Activity:nil
8/23    Looking for close to Berkeley store(s) (i.e. on San Pablo) for
        cheap stuff. Who's got a good deal?
        1) Cat5 Crossover cable to connect two 100MBps NICs.
        2) Additional case fan to cool my system.
1999/8/24 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:16385 Activity:nil
8/23    Someone turn off the POP3 port (110) ? More unneeded security
        for the CSUA penitentary?
        \_ No, I think it's just hozed. Try mailing root.
1999/8/24-26 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:16386 Activity:low
8/24    Is there a command in NT that works like "sleep" in UNIX?  Thx.
        \_ You want it for scripting?  There's a few ways.  4NT from jpsoft
           is a dos shell replacement that has a sleep function.  perl can
           do a sleep function.  you can write your own in C/whatever and
           compile it.  NT has an "AT" like function if you need a long term
           sleep.  There isn't a command line sleep that I know of.  If you
           detail what you're trying to do, it'd be easier to help you.
           \_ I just want to sleep in a loop in a batch file, like
                :again
                foo.exe
                sleep 60
                goto again
              I guess I'll write one in C.  Thanks.
                \_ A little C program is probably easiest.  You can download
                   one from many public archives.  If you're willing to switch
                   shells, try jpsoft's.  In many ways it's more powerful and
                   easier to use than tcsh but of course doesn't support true
                   backgrounding of jobs.  perl is ok if you don't mind pissing
                   away some cpu.
                   away some cpu and memory.
        \_ cygwin (<DEAD>sourceware.cygnus.com<DEAD> is a good thing.
        \_ perl -e 'sleep 60'  --  use NT perl!
1999/8/24-26 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:16387 Activity:kinda low
8/24    I don't understand why ftp is s/key enabled but tons of
        folks still pop their mail that is still a big security hole for
        the less competent users of soda I believe
        \_ Wrapped for the good of the people.
           \_ Wrapped with what?  tcpwrappers is useless unless you
              actually enable some rules.
        \_ One step at a time.  Secure POP/IMAP methods are being investigated.
           \_ Step one should be to THINK ABOUT THE ACTUAL AFFECT
                \_ effect.
           \_ I don't know if this is enforceable, but I use an SSH tunnel
              to soda's IMAP server.  That's a possible alternative.
              \_ It's trvially enforceable (just have TCP wrappers only
                 allow connections from localhost.
1999/8/24-26 [Computer/SW/Apps, Computer/SW/Graphics] UID:16388 Activity:kinda low
8/24    Boss in my 4 person company wants to pay someone to do our
        web page. He doesn't want to deal with fancy Photoshop graphics,
        icons, layout, etc. How much do web pages cost? We want a 5 page
        static web page, and maybe some electronic scheduler dynamic
        web page.
        \_ if you sign your name i can forward a few freelancer names
           to you.  --caliban
        \_$700-$1000
        \_It depends.  Did you already pay the $70 for two years InterNIC
        fee for the domain name registration?  Do you guys already have a web
        hosting service?  If you pay them extra, they'll do the pages for you,
        and each host charges differently.
1999/8/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:16389 Activity:high
8/24    Thread debugging Q... is it possible to switch to an arbitrary
        thread in MSVC (so I can see what threads are blocked)?
        \_ While running, try going to Debug->Threads... and Set Focus on the
           thread you want.  Good luck.
           \_ omg i'm such an idiot.  thanks mucho -embarrassed
              \_ Now that you have your answer, why not DELETE YOUR FUCKING
                 MOTD ENTRY?
                 \_ Prolly could've taken you less time to delete 5 lines than
                    to type that.
                    \_ Prolly wouldn't have lurned him to pick up after hisself
            \_ Perhaps to share the answer with others too timid to ask?
1999/8/24-26 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:16390 Activity:very high
8/24    Question. Which ISP is good for 24 hours and is reliable? I am
        willing to spend up to $30/month. Also, which auto password and
        auto Windows 95 dialer is good to download? Thanks.
        \_ ED!  ED!  ED is the STANDARD!  Tax Advisor.
                \_ /bin/cat you fool!
        \_ $30! That's pretty steep for an ISP.  Might as well spend a
           few extra bucks and get cable modem or DSL.
        \_ What's wrong with the MS one?  It allows scripting, and pretty
           much never fails.  Been using it since 95 came out with no problems.
           \_ Perhaps the inquirer has a social conscience and does not want
              to unnecessarily patronize an evil company.
                \_ If they're already using Win 95 they've sold their soul
                   to BillG already and using the software included with Win95
                   won't make any difference to anyone
                \_ giving him $20 a month will.
                        \_ No, this is in reference to the autodialer part of
                           the second question, not the ISP part.  You don't
                           have to give BillG $20/month to use the built in
                           authodialer... yet.
        \_ Another question-- where can I find an auto-dialer that dials
           in the ISP and puts in password automatically?
                \_ I answered this already.  Use the one included in windows.
                   It works perfectly.  I've used it for years on 95, 98 and
                   NT without any problems.  It isn't glitzy, but it works.
                        \_ NO YOU DUMB ASS. I want to log in when the computer
                           is rebooted, and would redial AUTOMATICALLY.
                           \_ That's easy.  I know how to do that and used to
                              do so but I won't tell you since you're such a
                              little shit.  It's your own fault for not being
                              clear since there is a commonly accepted
                              definition of an autodialer and your mis-use of
                              the term is not my fault.  Good luck getting
                              help from someone else with that attitude.
                           \_ Why do you need to be connected 24 hours a day?
                              If you're running a server, Win95 is just about
                              the stupidest choice possible, and you probably
                              want "always on" DSL instead of dialup.
1999/8/24-26 [Recreation/Media] UID:16391 Activity:nil
8/24    Anybody watched X-files on Sunday?  That episode with Smoking
        man's wife being a human-alien hybrid.  Is that a re-run or a new
        episode?  I haven't seen X-files in a while. And I thought the
        season finale was that one episode with Mulder going mad because of
        an alien artifact.  Thanks.
        \_ it was a rerun.  new episodes do not play in august...
                \_ new episodes of the X-files won't be here until November
        \_ I thought they were done with X-files!  That episode was part 2 of
           what was billed as their series finale.
                \_ SEASON finale, not series.
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