17/07   Can a general meeting overturn the ssh only decision? If
        yes, it should be put up for vote next time. Concerning
        ftp, a nice solution is to allow people to cp files somewhere
        into anon ftp area. Can I do it now? Yes, I am aware that
        I could put files under my public_html -muchandr
        \_ The constitution is linked from the CSUA web page.  Why not read it?
        \_ It's a policy decision.  I don't think the constitution allows
           for that.  You *could* call a meeting and impeach the VP, install
           your own puppet VP and get the policy changed...
        \_ WAREZ!!! D000EWDE!!!  I KANT WAIT 4 AWL THE KIDZ 2 START Y00ZING
           D CSY00A FOR WAREZ!11 THAN I KAN JUST KOPY IT 2 MY AKOUNT INSTED
           OF B-ING A B1G LEETCH!!!11  M00CHANDAR Y00 R K-RAD!111
        \_ The CSUA already has anonymous ftp.  What did you think
           have to break down _ask_, like everyone else.  Take a look at
           http://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu was?  If you want a directory there, you'll
           have to break down and _ask_, like everyone else.  Take a look at
           /csua/adm/doc/policies/ftp before you ask, to make sure you can
           handle the regulations.  -mikeh

17/07   I just upgraded from RedHat 5.2 LINUX to RedHat 6.0 LINUX and
        latex and tex just broke.  Did this happen to anyone else?
        Any suggestions for fixing things?
        \_ You could reinstall tex and latex from the sources; I usually
           have pretty good luck with that.
           http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/systems/unix/unixtex.ftp
           explains (tersely) how. Red Hat posts patches for 6.0 to
           http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/errata/rh60-errata-general.html;
           however I didn't notice anything TeX-related there. If you bought
           Red Hat, call them up for support. I'd suggest, however, that the
           easiest way to avoid this kind of mishap in the future is to
           backup and then reinstall instead of upgrading. -brg
           \_ Yeah, that is what I eventually decided to do after
              discovering some newsgroup postings indicating that
              RedHat's update mechanism is broken.  If anyone else
              out there is considering upgrading to RedHat 6.0, I
           \_ freebsd.
              \_ NetBSD
                 \_ OpenBSD
                    \_ Shaddup Theo
              wouldn't trust the upgrade mode.  By the way, once I got
              it working I was quite happy with 6.0.  The GNOME desktop
              alone makes switching worthwhile.
        \_ Yeah, stop 'upgrading' your system when nothing is wrong with it.
           \_ What kind of strangled-brain sysadmin punk are you? This is
              somebody's home box, for crying out loud.
                \_ I'm the kind who likes his home machine to just work and
                   doesn't mindlessly 'upgrade' it just because something
                   WAY RAD AND K00L is available.  Why treat a home machine
                   any differently?  You don't like your home machine to work?
                   \_ So I take it you are still using DOS 1.0 on your box?
                      \_ No, dork.  The phrase was "mindlessly upgrade".  Don't
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        \_ I gave birth to Norby's love child!
                \_ I didn't know tara still logged in.
                   \_ Every so often, I think.  She's pretty busy with
                      the baby...
                \_ http://www.quotidian.com has pictures of Norby's love child.
                         use cheap straw man arguments.  They're childish,
                         and not considered clever after third grade.  And, yes
                         I *do* have a bootable DOS 1.0 floppy which was still
                         working about 4 months ago, thanks for asking, but no,
                         I don't run my company or home computers on it.
                      \_ So why is updating from RH 5.2 to 6.0 a mindless
                         upgrade?  Even if 6.0 doesn't have any features
                         which you consider worthwhile, they might be quite
                         useful for others.
                      \_ DOS 1.0 is even worse than its predecesor, CPM.
           \_ well, one can say that the nfs is borken.
        \_ my smb mounts don't work anymore after switching from 5.1 to 6.0.
           what gives?  has the command line changed also?
                \_ You might have to update your userspace smb tools;
                   /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes has a list of
                   the things you'll want to run at any particular
                   kernel rev. -brg