Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:July:15 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
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1999/7/15 [Uncategorized] UID:16136 Activity:nil
7/14    Which South Park kid do YOU want to anally rape?
                \-you guys actually know who is who? --psb
        \_ Cartman's Mom
        \_ Wendy
        \_ Kyle
        \_ All of them.
          \_ All of them at once.
1999/7/15-8/5 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16137 Activity:nil
07/15 As announced, ordinary plaintext password telnet & rlogin sessions are
      now disallowed, unfortunately, due to unforeseen complications
      involving unique soda brokenness, you get to use s/key for ftp too!
      We apologize for any inconvenience, but know our users understand the
      goal is to maintain a safe and secure user community. -root

      A Java SSH Client and S/Key Calculator are online at:
      <DEAD>www.csua/ssh<DEAD> and <DEAD>www.csua/skey<DEAD> respectively
1999/7/15-16 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16138 Activity:high
7/14    S/Key is neat-o.  It works even if you don't have ssh.
        \_ S/Key is useful, but understand that it only protects your _soda_
           password.  If you connect to soda using telnet and s/key, then
           telnet somewhere else and type your ordinary password for that place,
           it can be sniffed.  ssh is not an annoying frivolity, it is a good
           thing; use it if you can.  --dbushong
        \_ Question (not necessarily rhetorical)- Is giving your password to a
           web-based java applet really an improvement over telnet?
                \_ Yes, because your password is encrypted before leaving the
                    machine.  (Of course, the csua should put it on an ssl
                    httpd for the truly paranoid.)
           Yeah, yeah, Java is secure, but aren't there ways around that
           too?
           \_ so download the applet, and install it on your own server.
              Then worse case, it could only communicate back to THAT
              server. And/or just set your security settings to disallow
              applets from making ANY net connections.
              \_ So wouldn't it be nice to have an authorized s/key
                 applet on soda?
                 \_ http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/skey
1999/7/15-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:16139 Activity:high 52%like:16095
7/15    Does anyone know of some good freely available tools
        for finding memory leaks and memory errors in c/c++?
        I have "Electric Fence" but it leaves a lot to be desired.
        \_ purity (freeP)
        \_ purify (not free, but excellent)
           \_ Unfortunately, purify is worthless for interactive
              applications (e.g. games), and nearly useless for
              apps that already take a lot of CPU time before you
              instrument them.  The old sparc purify wasn't too slow
              but it just got worse and worse as time wore on.  -blojo
        \_ there are a bunch of different tools for this.  do a web search.
           i've used some malloc replacement libraries such as dmalloc.
           also, depending which compiler/OS you're using you may get some
           analysis tools already.  Solaris dbx and AIX heapview exist,
           i dunno about other platforms --oj
                \_ See also "watchmalloc" on Solaris.
        \_ Good coding practice.
        \_ boehm gc
           \_ i just wrote a freebsd port for this. i'll be submitting it
              but contact me if you want it. --aaron
1999/7/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/Ocf, Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:16140 Activity:high
7/15    Welcome CSUA Penitentiary.
        \_ get used to it. expect other computers on campus to also enforce
           an ssh only policy soon (ocf, ucsee, alumni, etc...)
        \_ Next, all of us will be forced to use mh. pine to be deactivated
           next month. and then vi only the month after.
                \_ psb will destroy us all if we do not allow emacs
                   \_ You can't take emacs away from the psb!  You haven't
                      the power!  -psb #1 Fan
           \_ mh? vi? bah! You assume you deserve FUNCTIONALITY?!
              mail and ed for you!
              \_ btw, that's /bin/mail, not mailx/Mail
                \_ you should really be modifiying the bits on the disk
                   via ESP.
           \_ pine blows anyway.  we should deactivate it now.
                having it blow is the closest some sodans have come to sex
           \_ To be on soda, must show proof you're single.
           \_ You do not know the power of the Dork Side of the Farce.
1999/7/15-8/5 [Computer/SW/Mail, Recreation/Woodworking] UID:16141 Activity:nil
07/15 pine upgraded to 4.10. old pine available as pine-3.96 -aaron
      \_ install fixed not to move mail to $HOME/mbox -aaron
1999/7/15 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:16142 Activity:very high
07/15   ED!  ED!  ED is the STANDARD!  Text Editor.  Use ED to EDit
        the motd.  I don't want a locking viitor, or a locking emacsitor.
        I want a non-locking EDitor that allows me to EDit text out
        from under people!  Everyone should know ED because it is the
        STANDARD!
        \_ so uh... who's this Ed guy?
        \_ Windows rules.  Use NOTEPAD!
        \_ I used yermom. damn fine standard.
        \_ we really should convert the motd to .doc format and use Word
           to edit. WINDOWS RULEZ! DRIVE DIESEL!!!!!!!
           to edit.
           to edit. WINDOZ RULEZ!!! DRIVE DIESEL!!!
           \_ Word 2000 proprietary html/xml.
1999/7/15-16 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:16143 Activity:moderate
07/15   How do you use s/key to ftp?  Thanks
        \_ same way as you do with telnet. it challenges you answer.
           see man skey(1). -aaron
        \_ great s/key howto: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/skey.html
           \_ keyinit SUCKS, documentation-wise.
              It asks for "6 english words". It should say
              'the 6 english words generated by "key"'
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