7/12    The Matrix to have 2 sequels.
                http://entertainment.news.com.au/news/4268771.htm

07/12 Politburo Meeting, 6:00pm Wednesday July 13th, 337/343 Soda.

7/12    http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/NATION/UPDATES/lat_darwin990712.htm
        \_ DOWN WITH THOSE FUCKING ANTI_EVOLUTIONISTS!!1!
        \_ "Polls consistently show that at least 44% of Americans believe
           God created life as described in Genesis: Over the course of six
           days, He separated day from night and created every species of
           life, culminating with Adam and Eve.
           A roughly equal percentage accept evolution but think God had
           a hand in guiding it. Only about 10% believe in strict evolution,
           unaided by external forces."  God bless democracy.
           \_ Stupidity regarding science/religion has nothing to do with
              democracy.  Where'd you get that idea from?  I don't deny that
              the average citizen is a complete dolt, but I don't see where
              democracy has anything to do with it.  Doltishness is an equal
              opportunity politically neutral condition.
           \_ According to Plato (and many agree with him), democracy is the
              second worst form of government (the worst being tyranny).
              Furthermore, the United States is not a democracy, but an
              oligarchy. -- ilyas
              \_ We're supposedly a republic, not an oligarchy. --dim
                \_ Right. -- ilyas

7/13    IBM announced on Monday it was going to buy Sequent.  Be glad we
        got rid of the old Sodas before they got converted to AIX.
        \_ AIX >> Dynix
        \_ I _LIKED_ old Sodas.  And ptx wasn't THAT bad.  The latest version
           running on mkIV was even reasonable to compile on.  MkIII,
           however....  --sowings
        \_ PTX was horrible.  -tom
                \_ PTX TCP & NFS especially sucked ass.
                   \_ Would you please stop with the "sucked ass" noise?  You
                      only make yourself look stupid and crude.  I'm doing you
                      a favor by pointing this out.
                        \_What an ass sucker!
                        \_ Shut the fuck up you uncle fucker!

7/13    How do you write a PERL CGI that both starts a file downloading and
        displays a "Thank you" page? (The download links on
        http://home.netscape.com/download are a good example.) Thanks! -icrew
        \_ Can't you just output the "Thank you" page and then use
           <meta> to redirect to the download file?  The download
           shouldn't actually display a different file, but rather just
           begin downloading.  More specifically:
           <META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" CONTENT="#;URL">
           Where "#" is a number (number of seconds), and URL is the URL
           \_good idea, but it doesn't work--it just sits there and
             continually refershes the "Thank you" screen.  Thanks for your
             help, tho...  -icrew
             \_ Worked just fine for me.  Note that URL should be the
                URL of the *download*, not of the current doc.  See
                <DEAD>www.csua/~emarkp/test_refresh.html<DEAD>  -emarkp
                \_ah.  I forgot the "URL=" part.  It does work, but
                  not the same way the same way the netscape one does b/c
                  it leaves the URL to the downloaded file in the "Netsite"
                  field and in the source of the "Thank you" page.  My reason
                  for putting it behind a CGI was so that people couldn't get
                  this info so easily. -icrew
                  \_ When I try the Netscape site, the HTML header tells
                     me that the location is: ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/english/4.61/windows/windows95_or_nt/complete_install/cc32e461.exe
                     so I don't see much difference.
                \_ Netscape almost certainly uses some sort of javascript
                  \_nope.  It works even with Java script turned off.
                     Ideas for a place where I might find the answer (instead
                     af asking it here) would also be appreciated.  -icrew
                     \_ Simple, bonehead:
                        telnet http://www.netscape.com 80
                          GET <DEAD>WHATEVER/blah/blah<DEAD>
                        \_ Or "view source" from a browser.  ahem.
        \_ (Incorrect answers deleted.) Use Content-type: mixed/multipart

7/13    Uh, does the CSUA run an nntp server and if so what is it?
        And don't flame me you assholes.
        -- At least you could cut to the chase and ask about porn binaries..
        \_ Why waste all that disk space and network bandwidth when we can
           just use agate?
                i free pron
        \_ trn? rn? tin? generic Windoze news reader?  The NNTP server is
           what gives these clients news.  The CSUA doesn't run one, but
           everyone in http://berkeley.edu uses <DEAD>agate.berkeley.edu<DEAD>.  If you're
           dialing Netcom, for example, and you want to use your mail reader
           at home, your NNTP server would be <DEAD>nnntp.ix.netcom.com<DEAD>.
           at home, your NNTP server would be <DEAD>nntp.ix.netcom.com<DEAD>.
           \_ how would you define "everyone in http://berkeley.edu"?
              Nobody asked for a list of news clients, only if soda ran a
              nntp server.

7/13    Sofa bed (full size) for sale, also large bookcase. email jng. thx.

7/13    You corporate drones, listen up. THE VOICE OF DILBERT SHALL BE HEARD.

7/13    The motd says the the meeting is Wed Jul 13. Wednesday is Jul 14.
        Is the meeting today or tomorrow?
        \_ You want to join the Russian oligarchy?
        \_ The meeting will be today.  Apologies for any confusion.  For future
           reference, we will be holding meetings every other week during the
           summer.  Thus the next meeting after today will be held on Tuesday,
           the 27th, once again, at 6:00PM.
           -(dans), Secretary

7/13    What is a reasonable amount to charge when you want to host 2 or
        more domains that point to one page?  Ie. http://foo.com and http://foo.org
        and http://foo.net all going to one place?  I'm trying to compare prices.
        \_ Um... How 'bout the price for registering the names.
           $100 + $50/year...
           \_ actually it's 35$/yr
              \_ From whom?
                \_ from anybody! but 'networksolutions' if you need a name.