Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:June:23 Wednesday <Tuesday, Thursday>
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1999/6/23 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:16003 Activity:nil
6/22    Does anyone know of a free ssh implementation for the Macintosh?
        \_ NiftyTelnet, as long as you're not in the USA...
1999/6/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Ilyas, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16004 Activity:high
6/22    I've got a lab of 14 new machines that need names.  Suggestions?
        \_ Come up with a theme. eg. Callug = Animinaniacs, CSUA = drinks,
           199 Cory = Ancient Literature, 273 Soda = ships, etc...
           \_ 199 Cory isn't ancient literature, sorry.  A cluster scheme
              I was thinking about was South Park chracters.  --sowings
                \_ cartman.cs & kenny.cs are both taken, but stan & kyle are
                        not - strange, only half a cluster?
        \_ ancient computer games; archon, bard, conan, midnight, jumpman...
        \_ Basic unix commands
        \_ Star Wars characters.
        \_ Porn movies and/or actors.
        \_ liquid names of spanish food
        \_ Ally McBeal characters!
        \_ Rocky Horror Picture Show
        \_ homophones of "to"
        \_ soda motd threads
           \_ HOST=asianchic
                \_ You want names that will mean something for more than 2
                   TV seasons, not garbage pop culture of the moment crap.
        \_ AARON, asian chic, lila, psb, immigrants, happy page, etc
        \_ tom's twinks (kchang, cmlee, benco, tawei)
        \_ AARON, asian chic, lila, psb, immigrants, happy page, THE MAN
        \_ sexual positions
                \_ You name positions?  Or are you talking about the silly
                   Kama Sutra names?  "Lotus flower bent between broken OS's"
        \_ aminoacid names -- ilyas
        \_ venerial deceases. -lali
        \_ Mobsters.
1999/6/23 [Computer/Networking] UID:16005 Activity:high
6/22    What is a "proxy server" (what is an example of one)?
        \_ like, let's say you don't want to give every machine on your
           network an IP address that's accessible by a nefarious hacker (as
           opposed to those gallant, kind-hearted individuals of the CSUA).
           But you still want to give each workstation Internet access.
           What do you do?  Set up a proxy.  Proxies also can provide
           firewall functionality.
           \_ so what's the technical diff between a proxy, firewall, gateway?
1999/6/23 [Uncategorized] UID:16006 Activity:nil
6/22    NO BEER AND NO TV MAKE HOMER GO SOMETHING SOMETHING.
        \_ I've never had any exposure to the Shining.  Which one is better -
           Kubrik's movie or the book?
           \_ Incidentally, Kubrik also has yet another movie to join his
              collection of great works (although I scoff at his decision
              to cast Tom Cruise, quite possibly the worst actor ever).
              Eyes Wide Shut is opening on July 16.
        \_ Are we suppose to fill in the something something??
        \_ go crazy?
           \_ don't mind if I do!
1999/6/23 [Uncategorized] UID:16007 Activity:nil
6/22    I've seen photos of the golden gate taken from a beach.  From that
        angle the bridge spans left to right dominating the photo.  Anybody
        know which beach might give you that view?  I've tried China Beach
        and the surrounding area.  The angle doesn't look right.  Thanks.
        \_ just a guess, but maybe stinson?
        \_ "spans from left to right" is meaningless.
            "The San Fran side is on the right" is meaningful.
           \_ Actually I couldn't tell if SF is on the right from the photos.
              It was taken from a beach and the bridge looked huge in the
              background.  It's beautiful.  Anybody know where it might be?
              \_ Angel Island, perhaps?  It has a beach facing the right
                 direction and a commanding view of the Golden Gate (so
                 commanding that the gov't chose to put gun emplacements
                 facing the bay mouth directly above it).  I think it's
                 probably the very best place from which to watch the sun
                 set over the bridge . . . -- kahogan
        \_ Baker beach...?
        \_ Alameda Naval Base has kewl views of the Bay Bridge...
1999/6/23 [Health/Women] UID:16008 Activity:nil
6/22    Is a female a lot more or a lot less likely to become
        pregnant directly before or after her period?
        \_ Who cares.  Use a comdom and don't take the risk.
1999/6/23 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:16009 Activity:nil
6/23    http://www.hit-n-run.com/jarjar.html
        Because we love Jar-Jar so much.
1999/6/23-25 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:16010 Activity:high
6/22    How come in Java, I can do the following:
                str = str + "Hello world";
        instead of
                str = new(str + "Hello world");
                \_ Because you are not telling the new keyword
                   what type of class to create. The + operator
                   has been overloaded so that you can cat strings
                   together.
                \_ java doesn't support operator overload
        \_ It's actually a very simple modification of the parser grammar
           and a few additional AST (abstract syntax tree) nodes.  The two
           turn out identical code anyway and is was done simple because
           they can and makes it more convenient to use (though it makes
           the grammar syntax less consistent).
             \_ See the JLS under the section for java.lang.StringBuffer
            (20.13) for how they suggest you compile the string +
            operator; it's instructive even if you aren't writing a
            compiler. -brg
        \_ you mean "as well as", not "instead of".
           Why = because programmers are lazy, and sometimes stupid.
                \_ better short cut and work than longer and not works, stupid j
           \_ #F, programmers, especially those in the INDUSTRY, are
                always stupid. They always do short cut that work but
                are lousy implementations. Then they leave the company
                and the new hires get to debug their code. That is INDUSTRY
                        \_ shut up kchang.
                \_ This is a bit unfair.  Industry programmers have this thing
                   called a 'deadline'.  They're not stupid.  Apathetic and
                   under a lot of pressure is more like it.  No more stupid
                   than a 'non-industry' programmer whatever that's supposed
                   to mean.
                        \_ yeah, and grad students don't have deadlines
                           \_ "Professor?  I need a few more weeks."  "Ok."
                              "Boss?  I need a few more weeks."  "Tell me
                               again how much I pay you?"  Hardly the same.
                               Don't fool yourself into thinking academics
                               work as hard as industry folks.  I've done
                               both for a few years each and academic work is
                               like being on vacation in comparison.
                \_ Why is this a religious issue in the first place?
                Strings are treated in Java more like base types
                in the syntax even though they are instances of
                the String class because of the prevalence of
                Strings. One can think of them as char*. Versions
                of C++
        String templates offered this as an overloaded operator before
        there was Java. Anyway, if you don't like overloaded operators,
        don't use them. williamc
                \_ Why is this a religious issue in the first place? Strings are\
 treated in Java more like base types in the syntax even though they are instanc\
es of the String class because of the prevalence of Strings. One can think of th\
em as char*. Versions of C++

String templates offered this as an overloaded operator before there was Java. A\
nyway, if you don't like overloaded operators, don't use them. williamc
        \_ You could but you should use StringBuffer when doing
           string manipulations (i.e., StringBuffer.append()).
           JVM coverts String objects to StringBuffer objects when
           you perform a concatenation on two Strings and that slows
           your program down.
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:June:23 Wednesday <Tuesday, Thursday>