Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:May:20 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
1999/5/20 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:15844 Activity:high
5/19    Wow. At least _some_ legislators don't think that key escrow
        is a good thing.
        \_ Meanwhile, US Senate passes bill against bomb-making info
           \_ Any info links on that? Also isn't that against
              1st amendment or something?
              \_ Knee jerk over-reaction to the columbine hs shootings.
                 Sure it's whittling away your rights, you don't really need
                 them anyway. They just get in the way of the government
                 protecting you from yourself.
1999/5/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15845 Activity:high
5/19    dwallach is now an assistant professor at rice?  kewl.  How about
        a list of former-CSUA members and what they're doing now.  [if you're
        a l0ser ex-CSUA member please do not troll this list].
        \_ the thing about former-CSUA members that you're missing is that
           they are not CSUA members anymore, which means they dont post
           to the motd. duh.
        \_ glass        microserf
        \_ psb          still here, still not graduated
           \_ yeah, but psb is hardly former-CSUA.  The guy is still around.
              And !psb is alive and well at elections.
        \_ philb        sysadmin at a fortune 500 company
        \_ yermom       anything with a pulse
        \_ whatever happened to adam?
                \_ Which adam? glass? richter? diran?
                    \_ adam richter.  login:adam
                        \_ Still sleeping with Pete Shipley.
                        \_ Is yggdrasil officially dead?
1999/5/20-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/Languages/JavaScript] UID:15846 Activity:kinda low
5/19    Full time entry level javascript programmer opening at San Fransisco
        e-commerce startup; senior level openings too.  Email for info --phr.
        \_ class Fool { static { System.err.println("I hate Java"); } }
           \_ Javascript, not Java.  It's even lamer.
1999/5/20-21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15847 Activity:high
5/20    We're receiving around a thousand bug reports per day about our
        software, but we really only have 1 person to deal with them.
        What software is available to process and organize these reports
        to make them more manageable?
        \_ Don't do anything about them an call your company Microsoft.
        \_ use GNU gnats.
        \_ jitterbug is supposed to be good
        \_ Forget about fixing them.  Quit this company.  Obviously, this
           software is shit.
                \_ We have 45 million users.  1k complaints/day isn't a big
                   deal.  Obviously, you're talking out your ass.
                   \_ You have 45 million users and only 1 person to deal with
                      bugs?  Is your management crazy?
1999/5/20-21 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:15848 Activity:nil 66%like:16541
5/20    Access to Software for All People jobs is /csua/pub/jobs/ASAP
1999/5/20-21 [Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:15849 Activity:high
5/20    VI question that isn't answered in TFM: I have a line that looks
        like:    a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o
        and I want to cut/yank  d through j then paste onto a diff line.
        how do I only cut d through j and put in a memory buffer?
        \_ Place cursor on 'd'.  Then type 7dw.  There, it's cut into a
           buffer.  You can paste using p/P.  With VIM, you can hit 'v'
           and go int visual mode, hilight the text you want, hit d, and
           there ya go.
            \_ the 7dw is far too tedious when d-f is really many paragraphs
               but the vim solution is perfect! This is perhaps the 3rd thing
               I've seen about vim that's better than vi. Thanks MOTD answerer!
               \_ if you wanted to do it the vim way, you should just be using
                  Emacs.. the vi way to do that is either dtj then p or if
                  it's across multiple lines, d/j^M p (where j is something
                  decently specific to search for) --dbushong
               \_ If you're trying to cut multiple LINES, as opposed
                  to characters on a single line, then go to the first line
                  and type "ma".  Go to the last line, and do a "d'a",
                  which will delete from the cursor to the line that
                  you marked with 'a'.  Then you can paste with P/p,
                  or reference the buffer.
                        \-if the cursor is on d, then M-z j. if the cursor is
                        on j, then C-u - M-z f. --psb
                        \_ they didn't ask for emacs help dork
                           \_ Beware the wrath of the psb, infidel!  --psb #1 Fan
               \_ If you don't like to count words, you can also dtj if j is
                  really a letter, or d/j if j is some longer word.
1999/5/20-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:15850 Activity:high
5/20    I am writing a CGI script that is quite CPU intensive. When you
        first load it, it will output something, wait 2-3 seconds, and
        then output again. How do I make it so that during the CPU
        intensive seconds, the script knows that the user has pressed
        the "STOP" button on the browser, so that it can stop immediately?
        \_ that is totally transparent to you.  sorry.
        \_ Write a more efficient script.  Preprocess data.
        \_ Give a second button on your web page to stop the first process.
        \_ use an alarm to print newlines every x seconds, then stop on
                \_ sigterm/sigpipe? HUH? Could you please give me
                   example? Please no RTFM. Thanks.     -perl clueless
                        \_ RTF-O'Reilley books then.  We're not here to
                           do your work for you - either figure it out
                           yourself, hire someone else to, or tell your
                           boss he hired a moron.
                        \_ Go to cpan and look around and ignore the above
        \_ <DEAD><DEAD>
           catches sigterm and sigpipe. you still need an alarm to output
           something during the processing
1999/5/20-21 [Science/Electric, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:15851 Activity:moderate
5/20    what do people who have read it think of cryptonomicron?  is
        it worth the hardback price?
        \_ I found it interesting but difficult to "believe in" because it
           was set in the real world -- unlike other Stephenson which is more
           science fiction and doesn't really allude to actual history or
           current events.  In other words, this is a more realistic novel
           than his other stuff, and I think I had a hard time with that.
           You will learn something from it.  (Oh, there's a long section
           on undersea cables -- fancy that!)  Allusions to actual 1990s
           stuff abounds: "Eutropians", "Finux", counterparts of PGP and
           the Cypherpunks...  I'd say you should try to borrow someone's
           copy and see whether or not you get into it before buying a copy
           of your own.  -- schoen
           \_ If you do buy it, is selling it for way less
              than any bookstore.
              \_ yeah, got mine for $16 instead of $27
           \_ Random Trivia:  Many people waiting for SW:TPM had it.
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