Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:April:28 Wednesday <Tuesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
1999/4/28 [Computer/HW/Memory] UID:15712 Activity:high
4/27    Is the cache expansion port on different brands of PC motherboards
        compatible? ie, can i take a cache module from one motherboard and
        plug it into another to increase cache memory to 512k?
        \_ Absolutely yes, unless the modules are not compatible.
           \_ how many computers have you built?? there's no place to
              add the L2 cache on most MBs. Plus most pentium/I/II (non-xeon)
              use Intel chipsets that don't bother with >512K cache.
              only PC MBs i've seen with >512k cache have VIA (ie MVP3) chipsets
              \_ You, my friend, are definitely irony challenged.
1999/4/28 [Recreation/Dating] UID:15713 Activity:insanely high
4/27    So . . . say you meet that one woman who seems to be your ideal; you
        ask her out, she says yes, and you find she's even *MORE* ideal than
        you thought.  The date ends amicably; you both agree you should meet
        again next week, and that you'll call at a specified date/time to set
        things up.  Inbetween then, she E-mails you to say that after further
        thought, you're not right for one another, and wishes you well . . .
        is it socially acceptable and within the rules to make that *ONE*
        phone call to try and convince her otherwise, or is that operating
        from such a position of desperately transparent geeky neediness that
        the only gentlemanly thing to do is say "okay", fade away, and never
        be heard from again?
        \_ I'm almost 21 and haven't gone on a single date in my life. I
           guess that's what you get for being a CS nerd.
           \_ I'm almost 24 and haven't gone on a single date in my life
              (unless if you count the time my editor took me to lunch). I
              always though that once I graduated, I would have a lot more
              time on my hands for other stuff like dating. Unfortunately,
              coding for a living is more time consuming than coding for
              classes. Oh well, maybe when I retire and cash in my options
              I will find someone nice. Hope springs eternal.
        \_ You should follow your ONE TRUE LOVE around, and you should make
           sure she knows you're there.  This is to show her that you really
           care about her.  If she sees OTHER GUYS, it's not because she
           cares about them.  She is just TESTING you.  You have to demonstrate
           your LOVE by threatening both her and the other guys.  The woman
           is just looking for that kind of definite AFFIRMATION of your
           feelings.  Finally, after a few such threatening encounters, you
           should GRAB her and TIE HER DOWN in your room.  Then she will
           know that you are TRUELY COMMITTED, and she will be YOURS FOREVER.
        \_ sounds like she took some time to think about it before sending the
           e-mail.  i don't think she wants you calling her questioning her
           judgement, and she would have given more reason if she felt it
           prudent.  it might be that your opinion of the date was biased, and
           she didn't want to be rude to you in person.  i'd suggest sending
           her a mail saying "okay" and then offer that she can contact you
           any time if she just wants to be friends.  then forget all about
           her, and try not to feel sad or sorry for yourself.
        \_ If she's as ideal for you as you've described, go for it.
        \_ 1) Asking for this kind of advice on the MOTD is not wise.
           2) Who cares if she thinks you're desparately, transparently,
              geekily needy?  If she says no, you don't ever need to see
              her again.  If she says yes, woohoo!
        \_ I don't understand why you can't talk to her or visit her.
           It sounds as if one meeting was a marriage decision.
           If she honestly doesn't dislike you then you can at least
           associate with her, and maybe something will develop.  Why not?
        \_ really, you're an idiot for deciding so quickly that she's really
           the one for you after one date. no wonder she doesn't want to be
           near you. you freaked her out. you fucked up. learn. move on.
           \_ I second this response.  You're too inexperienced to make such
              a big decision based on one date.  Furthermore, you're asking
              for advice on the MOTD!  Jesus, you are really inexperienced.
              You have the rest of your life in front of you, don't make such
              big decisions based on a date or on any MOTD advice you get.
        \_ LJBF! LJBF!
          ( Subtle, desparate long-term torture plan )
        \_ This is the WRONG place for a question like this.  Do what you
           think is right.  Make sure you have no regrets, and make sure
           you're proud of yourself after whatever you do in the name of love.
           I'd call her and ask her why.  It is not a question of whether
           she is testing you, or if this is a game, it is about
           communication -- if she still turns you down, then you know it's
           the real thing. --female@soda
           \_ Why is it wrong to ask for advice in relationship matters on
              the motd? After all if you were having trouble in your relationship
              with your compiler or your computer, asking for help on the motd
              generates useful feedback. Anyway, since most of my friends read
              and post on the motd, asking here or in person would be the same.
              (Actually the motd is better since its anonymous).
              In this particular case I'm betting that the post was made on
              the motd, so that the female in question would read it and
              reconsider her decision.
        \_ You know, I bet a lot of these relationship questions that show
           up on the motd are purely hypothetical, posed for the entertainment
           value of the responses.
1999/4/28 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:15714 Activity:nil
4/27    What are people's experiences with subleasing apartments and getting
        \_ if your lease specified no subletting and you got caught, you're
           probably going to have to give your landlord a blowjob.  otherwise
           tell him to kiss your ass.
1999/4/28 [Computer/Networking] UID:15715 Activity:very high
4/27    Is there some netstat-like program that displays network resource
        consumption dynamically the way top does?
        \_ netstat -w
        \_ yes. --jon
           \_ I meant one that doesn't have a nasty flicker like netstat -c
              \_ yes, there is one.  jon
                 \_ Is the program called yes or are you not gonna tell?
                        \_ Who's on first?
1999/4/28 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:15716 Activity:high
4/27    Is there a thesaurus on csua?  Something like dict.
        \_there is an old [1911?] copy of roget's that is part of
          gutenberg. there is a perl interface to this called th, and an
          emacs library thesauraus.el ontop of that. the emacs interface
          is reasonable. using the perl one directly from the shell was
          kinda lame. i am not sure this made it in the soda3-> soda4 or
          soda4->sodaV upgrade. it should be easy to get it going again.
        \_ Or you can go to for more recent dictionary and
           thesaurus (unless of course you absolutely need it on the
           local machine).
1999/4/28 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15717 Activity:nil
4/28    problem running a file on unix, get no such file or directory
        the file is a script file , first line is #/bin/csh.
        a few comment lines then an echo statment.. when i run the file
        the echo statement never appears, just get above error,
        logged in as root and file permissions are rwx (777) any ideas?
        \_ You mean #!/bin/csh or #/bin/csh ?  Have you tried sourcing?
        \_ Make sure csh is in that directory....
                \_ yes #!/bin/csh  and csh is in there.. :(
        \_ Have you tried looking at whether it has invisible characters?
          Try " /bin/ls -al | od -c | more "
                \_ nope. no invis chars  C S H \n
        \_ I think you want ./filename because . isn't in your path. --dim
                \_ it is in path :(
        \_ i created a small test file: contains
                #!/bin/csh test
                echo " hello"
                exit 0
                ran it with test, returns nothing , ran it with ./test gets
                permission denied.
                \_ if you didn't specify ./test, odds are you ran /bin/test
                   by accident.  'test' is not a good name for a test script.
1999/4/28 [Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager] UID:15718 Activity:nil
4/28    I don't have much experience with macs, but
        I used one a couple weeks ago and someone
        showed me the "stickies" program which is
        similar to post-it notes.  Does anybody know
        if there is a similar program for cde and/or
        win9x?  Something other than xclipboard...
        \_ kde has jot
        \_ yes. xpostit or something.
        \_ MS Outlook
1999/4/28 [Industry/Jobs, Computer/HW/Printer] UID:15719 Activity:nil
4/28    Has anyone here worked for HP? Intern or full-time? How was it?
        \_Both, what do you want to know? It's obviously very dependent
        on where you work and what you do. It's a big company. I guess I
        work for the company formerly known as HP now...
        \_ Parts of HP is pretty cush.  I thought were the printer guys
           were pretty annoying, but that was an impression from several
           years ago.
           \_ guess that's cause they have a thing for lawnmowers...
1999/4/28 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:15720 Activity:nil
4/28    Anybody had problems compiling GNU software on solaris 2.6 or 2.5.1? I
        used to be able to do "./configure" and then "make" on 4.1.3 and
        everything would be fine.  Now I'm running into all sort of small
        annoying header file problems.  Is Solaris 7 any better?
        \_ Works just fine for me on Solaris 2.5/2.6/7 - make sure you've got
           a working compiler (Sun DevPro, gcc 2.8.x or gcc 2.7.x+makeincludes
           for your current OS - gcc 2.7 built on a different version won't
           work) - see for more help
1999/4/28 [Uncategorized] UID:15721 Activity:nil
4/28    Rest In Peace, Mark Weiser, April 27, 1999
        If you don't know who he is:
1999/4/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15722 Activity:nil
4/27    Soda relationships thread killed due to motd corruption.
        \_ Censorship.
           \_ (you'd think that thread was too hot, and too gay)
                \_ But since it was censored, s/he won't get a chance to
                   decide on for themself.  Thanks for keeping all that crufty
                   stuff off the motd so the rest of us don't have to think
                   for ourselves.
2019/01/20 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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