Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:April:27 Tuesday <Wednesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
1999/4/27-5/1 [Industry/Jobs, Industry/Startup] UID:15699 Activity:nil
4/19    Know of a growing startup that would like to recruit at Cal, but
        can't afford to pay the ILP $1000-$7500?  Tell them to join the CSUA
        Startup Jobs Fair.  More info:  <DEAD>www.csua/startup.html<DEAD>
1999/4/27-5/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:15700 Activity:nil 58%like:16117
4/8     Politburo meetings will be held Mondays at 6:00PM in 337/343 Soda.
1999/4/27-28 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:15701 Activity:kinda low
4/27    Even yermom can use BSD:
        \_ How did you know BSD was the name of my ....
           \_ funny,  I thought "inside denver" was...
             \_ see bach, see bach run, run bach run!
1999/4/27-28 [Computer/Networking] UID:15702 Activity:kinda low 50%like:15708
4/26    adsl vs cable modem? which is better?
        \_ I haven't used cable modem firsthand, but I've heard of low
           peaktime thoroughput since it's shared. I'm using DSL, and it's
           fast enuf for me (~100KB/sec usually). But the line dies
           occassionally during peak hours.
           \_ cable modems have an unsustainable business model; if you
              don't have problems now, you will when enough people sign
              on.  -tom
              \_ So use them while the price/performance is acceptable, and
                 when enough people sign on to create problems, leave.
                 *Everything* -- cable modems, the phone system, freeways,
                 BART, dance classes, yermom -- is theoretically prone to
                 problems "when enough people sign on".
                \_ boy that's an intelligent post.  First of all, there's
                   a startup cost, and second of all, the phone system
                   (to take the only reasonable example up there) has a
                   sustainable business model; if more people sign on,
                   the phone companies will have enough money to expand
                   capacity.  That's what "sustainable business model" means.
                   If you don't understand this, please shut up.  -tom
                \_ Pacbell has the money, but the will?  DSL could also be
                   impacted pretty badly.  Best claims PB is selling at loss.
                   \_ pretty clearly PBI is selling net access via PB at a
                      loss, precisely so that you will still consider DSL
                      vs Cable modem.  Would the decision still be so hard
                      if it was $49/mo cable modem vs. 99/mo DSL?
                      \_ The price difference is not the main deciding point
                         here. It's availability. Few places offer DSL or
                         cable modem, and even fewer offer both. Some people
                         are relegated to using sattelite connections, which
                         is 1/4 the bandwidth at the same (or more) price.
                      \_ GTE is total of $60/month for ADSL+internet.
                         I'm hesitating. and btw, I would never pay $99/m
                         for net access. I actually just want 128kbps
                         at the reasonable price ISDN *SHOULD* have been.
                \_ Cable modem startup cost: $150 w/o discount.(includes
                   a [decent] NIC)    DSL startup: ~$600. They make you buy
                   the DSL modem (from them, of course, since the standards
                   still aren't stable yet). When standards are stable,
                   DSL modem prices are down, and cable modem bandwidth
                   has actually deteriorated, then I may switch over.
                \_ cable modem bandwidth has already dropped through the
                   floor for many users
                        \_ DSL startup : ~$199
                \_ yermom put out a press release reassuring anxious customers
                   that she has near-infinite capacity, irregardless of load.
1999/4/27 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:15703 Activity:nil
4/26    Is there something equivalent to solaris 'truss' on linux or
        \_ "man strace" for Linux
        \_ FreeBSD:
           ktrace(1) - enable kernel process tracing
           ktrace(2) - process tracing
1999/4/27-28 [Computer/SW/Compilers, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15704 Activity:nil
4/26    Have a friend recruiting for a company looking for a DRAM core
        designer with a couple years experience.  mail jed
        \_ LJBF! LJBF!
          ( Subtle, desparate long-term torture plan )
        \_ This is the WRONG place for a question like this.  Do what you
           think is right.  Make sure you have no regrets, and make sure
           you're proud of yourself after whatever you do in the name of love.
           I'd call her and ask her why.  It is not a question of whether
           she is testing you, or if this is a game, it is about
           communication -- if she still turns you down, then you know it's
           the real thing. --female@soda
           \_ Why is it wrong to ask for advice in relationship matters on
              the motd? After all if you were having trouble in your relationship
              with your compiler or your computer, asking for help on the motd
              generates useful feedback. Anyway, since most of my friends read
              and post on the motd, asking here or in person would be the same.
              (Actually the motd is better since its anonymous).
              In this particular case I'm betting that the post was made on
              the motd, so that the female in question would read it and
              reconsider her decision.
        \_ You know, I bet a lot of these relationship questions that show
           up on the motd are purely hypothetical, posed for the entertainment
           value of the responses.
        \_ "Go to her.   Don't sleep on it.  It's not always good to let things
            calm down...The best thing you have going for yourself is your
            willingness to embarass yourself." - Simon advising Melvin from
                As Good As it Gets
        \_ I say go for it. Who cares about experience? Just be yourself and
           "go for the gold!"
1999/4/27-28 [Computer/Domains] UID:15705 Activity:nil
4/26    Anybody tried to grab a domain lately?  How long did it take for you?
        I used to get an email within 24 hours after I submit a request. It
        has been 2 days already and I still haven't gotten anything.
        \_ I've waited weeks while continually harrassing the Internic by
           phone. Two days is nothing. Give them a call in a few more
           days. --dim
           \_ can anybody explain why <DEAD><DEAD> was up and running
              within a couple of days after the shooting and I can't even
              get a reply mail from internic?  Special priority for murder
              related sites?
                \_ right after the Heaven's Gate suicides there was a parody
                   site up within 48 hours along with it's new domain. I emailed
                   them about how they did it but they wouldn't answer. I'd like
                   to know how they do this.
                \_ It's all part of a grand global conspiracy -- internic
                   was in on Littleton, too.  Those teens were duped by
                   corporate execs using mind-control rays.
1999/4/27-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15706 Activity:nil
4/26    RedHat 6.0 was released today, according to  Anyone
        know a local mirror that won't be completely saturated? -- nickkral
        \_ Why did this appear on the slashdot page before it did on the
           RedHat page?  Perhaps if you mail
           they will add 6.0
1999/4/27-28 [Computer/Networking] UID:15707 Activity:nil
4/26    Does anyone know if you can use a cable modem on a computer
        running LINUX?  I have some clue about how to set up PPP and
        stuff so as long as you don't need some special software it
        should be possible.  I'm wondering if anyone has any experience
        with this matter.  Thanks. -emin
        \_ No, the cable modems will only work with Win97 machines and
           certain models of the Sequent Symmetry and Balance series.
           There is some rumored support for SCO Unix and *BSD.
           \_ Win97?
        \_ hehe.
        \_ <DEAD><DEAD>
1999/4/27-28 [Computer/Networking] UID:15708 Activity:nil 50%like:15702
4/26    Salivating over that cable modem, are you?
        check this out:
1999/4/27 [Reference/History/WW2/Germany] UID:15709 Activity:high
4/27    Is the media under some sort of self-imposed censorship with regard
        to the Littleton killer's parents?  I have yet to see any pictures
        of the parents of the two gunmen.  I think the public has a right
        to see what kind of parents let their children build pipebombs in
        their garage and espouse Nazi views.
        \_ I have the right to know what parents let their kids be
           part of the industrial meat production industry.
1999/4/27-28 [Uncategorized] UID:15710 Activity:high
4/27    Someone should put together a mailing list : everybody@earth.planet
        I got something to say I want EVERYBODY to hear.
        \_ I didn't know the new DNS naming system reached inter-planetary
           \_ Vint Cerf proposed last year that it should, and there were
              people talking about high-latency modifications to TCP for use
              with Mars probes.
        \_ What?
                 telnet probe1.nasa.mars.planet
                 Trying aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd...
                        \_ It's probably not going to be IPv4. -- schoen
                 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
                \- actually someof this work goes on in lbl/berkeley/acri etc.
              \_ Why not extend it to something like:
                 [hostname].[type].[country].[planet].[solar system].[galaxy].[g
alactic cluster]
                \_ invalid <DEAD><DEAD>
                   \_ ... earth.sol.rim.milkyway.localcluster ...
                      \_ these two answers combined are right. sol. localgroup
1999/4/27-28 [Computer/Networking] UID:15711 Activity:high
4/27    Prediction on the world's first 1 trillion dollar corporation:
        AOL by the end of 2001.  MSFT will be taking the backseat in
        this second industry revolution.
        \_ Microsoft will get its ass sued for not fixing Y2K problems
           and, hence, will never reach the trillion $ mark.
        \_ Nah - AOL & MSFT are going to merge within the year.
        \_ No way, Cisco (CSCO for people who only know companies by stock
           tickers) will beat them both out. Hands down.
           \_ If this happens, I think soda will need to be upgraded.
              Perhaps to a Starfile (UE10000) and a dedicated Cisco
              12000 GSR. -- A cisco employee.
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