Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:March:02 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>
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1999/3/2 [Politics/Domestic] UID:15505 Activity:nil
3/1     How much is the national deficit these days?
        \_ xdebt
1999/3/2 [Uncategorized] UID:15506 Activity:nil
3/1     is pine v. 4.X available on soda? I can't find it.
        \_ Build it yourself

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1999/3/2-3 [Computer/HW/IO, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:15507 Activity:high
3/1     For sale: $750 (or best offer) full computer system:
        K6-200Mhz, 512kcache, 64 MB SDRAM, 4.3 GB HD
        Creative Labs DVD + decoder
        ATI all-in-wonder 4MB /w TV, video conference, TV-out, etc.
        56.6 X2/v.90 fax/voice/modem
        Sound Blaster 64 AWE
        15" digital control hi res monitor
        1.44 floppy, mouse, keyboard.
        Pro Alpha deluxe midtower case (a la Dec Alpha's)
        Email: sheenc@csua
        \_ Freaking fantastic deal if you ask me!
        \_ and who are you?  You can get a better new machine for that much.
        $20     K6-1 200
        $70     64 MB non-PC100 SDRAM DIMM
        $115    4.3 GB hard disk
        $150    Creative Labs 2x DVD kit (with decoder)
        $80     ATI All-in-Wonder (non-Pro) 4 MB
        $65     56K modem (assume US Robotics non-Winmodem)
        $40     Sound Blaster 64 AWE
        $150    15" monitor
        $15     3.5" floppy
        $10     Mouse
        $10     Keyboard
        $50     Mid-tower case
        ---
        $775    non-depreciated cost if you buy new from a reseller
                who doesn't lie through his/her teeth
        \_ these prices appear to be floored to the 10's digit.
          \_ please! go to http://www.pricewatch.com if you want exact no.
             you'll still come in well below $750 even after factoring in
             shipping for all these dated components.
             \_ Apparantly none of you understand the concept of "or best
                offer". What the fuck do you all care how much the guy
                asks originally?
                I'd put in an offer for $500 except that:
                [soda]~/[12:03pm]> finger sheenc
                finger: sheenc: no such user
                - (fucker)
                \_ it's the 'fantastic deal!' thing that makes me care
                   I think someone changed @hotmail.com to @csua - weird
1999/3/2 [Uncategorized] UID:15508 Activity:nil
        56.6 X2/v.90 fax/voice/modem
        Sound Blaster 64 AWE
        15" digital control hi res monitor
1999/3/2 [Computer/HW/IO] UID:15509 Activity:high
        1.44 floppy, mouse, keyboard.
        Pro Alpha deluxe midtower case (a la Dec Alpha's)
        Email: sheenc@hotmail.com
        \_ Freaking fantastic deal if you ask me!
        \_ and who are you?  You can get a better new machine for that much.
        $20     K6-1 200
        $70     64 MB non-PC100 SDRAM DIMM
        $115    4.3 GB hard disk
        $150    Creative Labs 2x DVD kit (with decoder)
        $80     ATI All-in-Wonder (non-Pro) 4 MB
        $65     56K modem (assume US Robotics non-Winmodem)
        $40     Sound Blaster 64 AWE
        $150    15" monitor
        $15     3.5" floppy
        $10     Mouse
        $10     Keyboard
        $50     Mid-tower case
        ---
        $775    non-depreciated cost if you buy new from a reseller
                who doesn't lie through his/her teeth
1999/3/2-3 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15510 Activity:high
3/1     In tcsh, how do you make a shell variable display in your prompt?
        \_ setenv FOO bar
           set prompt=$FOO %
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       \____)|_) \_)  \_ is this another one of those fetish things?
        \_ didn't figlet also did dogs.
1999/3/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:15511 Activity:moderate
3/2     How can I get nmh to handle mime?
        \_ To display mime messages, add to your .mh_profile:
                automhnproc: mhn
                mhn-charset-iso-8859-1:  %s
        \_ ah. -nocheckmime seems to alleviate most problems.
1999/3/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:15512 Activity:moderate
3/2     Anybody going to Linux Expo tomorrow? i was hoping to hitch a
        ride all the way down to S.J. --marc
        \_  If you're willing to be there by 10am and leave at about 7:30pm?
            I'm an exhibitor there, but that makes me have wacky hours. --chris
                    \_ You mean exhibitionist I think.
1999/3/2-3 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:15513 Activity:moderate
3/2     Opinions on HoM&M III ?  Is it as good as the others (especially
        for someone who's never played any of the others, like me)
         - seidl
        \_ Reviews say its just like the others.  Evolution, not revolution.
           Try a demo for one of the earlier games.  Same idea.  You either
           like that sort of game or you don't.  I enjoyed the earlier games
           although like many games they got a bit tedious at the end, but
           not especially so.  I haven't played III yet though.
           \_ Well, if I really like MoM or MoO II, will I like this?
                \_ MOO is a different genre.  MoM is very similiar.  Certainly
                   the same genre of games but has it's own twist, of course.
                   I'd say if you liked MoM, then you'd probably like the
                   first two HoMM games which are probably 95% the same as
                   III.  As I said though, haven't played III yet.
        \_ I liked #2 and #1 and King's Bounty, and this one really, really
           is more of the same.  Freakin' boring.  Hero micromanagement
           gets nuts.  Maps are huuuuge.  Argh.
                \_ To each his own.  I like the micromanagement thing.  The
                   FPS frag fest is amusing for a while, but really....
                   \_ it's like, I was watching someone play both HOMM3 and
                      Alpha Centauri, and I liked Alpha Centauri a lot more.
                      Even though it's like the same ol Civ1/2 micromgmt,
                      all the tech stuff was interesting reading.
1999/3/2 [Uncategorized] UID:15514 Activity:very high
3/1     Look, the fetish thing is really boring, OK?
        \_ 1    Nuking boring stuff out of the MOTD
           1 Tired of other people nuking thing they find boring which I don't
1999/3/2 [Uncategorized] UID:15515 Activity:nil
3/2     Where is traceroute on soda?
        \_ Type ' whereis traceroute ' at your prompt and answer your own
                question, lameass
           \_ and suppose he didn't know of the 'whereis' or 'which' command?
1999/3/2-3 [Health/Dental] UID:15516 Activity:high
3/2     Can anyone recommend a good family practice doctor and/or dentist
        in the area? -chrchan
        \_ new stuff on top
        \_ 1-800-DENTIST
        \_ East Bay Family Practice at Summit Hospital.
        \_ Just give birth to the baby yourself.
        \_ very good experience with Rockridge Dental, although they seem
                to do the right thing even if it's not covered by
                insurance. DOn't know if they're family. Ask. -appel
        \_ I have an awesome dentist but I'm not telling you who because he's
           really busy already and I don't want everyone else to know.
                \_well, nyeah.
1999/3/2-10 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/Languages/Functional] UID:15517 Activity:nil
3/2     motd restored.  I find it odd that people bother nuking it
        given how obvious it is that so many others save it.
        \_ Please restore the fetish stuff.
           \_ By popular request:

      Hillary Clinton & Monica
      Lewinsky con dildos de
      "strap-on"              535
      TOM!                    999999999
      latinas lesbianas con
      dildos de "strap-on"    534
      asian                   10
      \_ subset: korean       2
      \_ subset: fobs         1
      \_ subset: japanese
                 schoolgirls  3
                 \_ Wearing
                    Sailor
                    Uniforms  3
                 \_ wearing a cut-off "spank me daddy"
                    t-shirt   1
      tall                    3
      talg                    1
      B&D                     5
      spanking                4
      little boys             0       -- cogan?
      little girls            4
                              \_ This almost makes me proud to be a sodan.
                                 *sniff*  -mlee
      - catholic schoolgirls  3
      - toothless             1
      barely legal            2
      illegal                 2
      petite women            2
      muchandr                2
      big tits                6
      anal                    5
       -on nweaver            1
      tentacle                1
      fetishes                4
      small rodents           2
      necrophillia            2
      crazed psychos          4
      the elderly             1
      file cabinets           1
      PDP-10s & LISP          6
      BSD driverhacks         1
      rootcows                37337
      raverporn               1
      \_ Where do you get this? I want some.
      sexual torture          3
      fat chicks             -2
      soda                    1
      perl                    2
      lila                    1
      ahm                     2
      tickling                2
      shaved pubes            3
      spinach                 3
      pics of fatties         1
      Hank AKA JSL            -20
      amputees                1
      oral                    0
      kane                    2
      danh & stump fantasies  3
      redheads                3
      mail order russian brides 0
      the Simpsons!           1
      wattle                  0
      ASTEROIDS               1,599,990 @ 2020 !!!!!!
      nuking the motd         666
1999/3/2-3 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:15518 Activity:insanely high
3/2     I just got an AWSOME offer from Oracle. What do you guys think
                \_ Ok girl, what's the offer like? why are you so silent?
                      \_ Apparently they didn't make sure candidates could spell
                        \_ Spelling is opshunal at Orickle.  -Orickle employee
        about going there?
        \_ In the apps division? Hope not cuz they biz sucks are Oracle...
                \_ Ok girl, what's the offer like? why are you so silent?
                      \_ Apparently they didn't make sure candidates could spell
                        \_ Spelling is opshunal at Orickle.  -Orickle employee
        about going there?
        \_ Oracle definition of "5/1 Development"-- Spend your first 5
           years debugging other people code. Complain about the quality
           of the code while debugging it up. After 5 years, you spend 1
           year writing your own code. Don't debug your new code; have
           new hires spend their first 5 years debugging your code. The
           new hires complain about the quality of your code. You leave
           Oracle. After 5 years, the new hires spend 1 year writing
           their own code. They don't debug their new code; they have
           new hires spend the first 5 years debugging their code. They
           leave Oracle. Restart.
           \_ One person complained that they didn't like using in-house
              dev tools and would rather be using industry standard tools
              (MSVC6, etc.)
              \_ hopefully that idiot has been fired from oracle, and
                 has taken a $20/hr job at mickeysoft
                \_ Should you be fired if you use MS windows, words or excel?
                   This is PROGRAMMING, you numnut. If you are using
                   a M$ product for programming, in an environment that
                   usually requires high reliability, etc. then you
                   should be fired. Even if the product itself does not
                   directly make things crash, a penchant for using M$ tools
                   is a bias that should be purged as quickly as possible.
                        \_ I worked at oracle for 3 months (internship) and
                        all the dev tools *are* standard! we used only gmake
                        and gcc, or g++ whenever available, or the cc ov that
                        specific *nix. go to hell VC for unix dev???
                   \_ you sound quite familiar with product bias
                \_ Oracle doesn't fire people.
        \_ Pride in work is kind of unimportant there, and morale isn't
           exactly high either, at least in the front- and back-office
           Apps divisions.  (yeah I was a tech writer there, but I'm
           talking about the developers) --goetz
                \_ Back office market is drying up and Siebel is kicking the
                   shit out of Oracle in th front office, what's to like...
                        - Siebel Employee
        \_ But they have a grrreat in-house email system!  -John
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