1/31 Help, I can't get UDP up!! I've got RedHat 5.2, how do I make
sure IP Filtering is turned off? Tom needs my BB! -mtbb
UDP
"UDP connection request timed out"
\_ Install a real OS like 95/98/NT that you have a chance of dealing
with at your level of fu.
\_ Screw that. My Win98 box won't do UDP either. Quiet, you.
And I wouldn't start in with "level of fu" with me if you're
wise. I'm no mehlhaff, but I know a thing or two. --sowings
\_ Oh phooey. I've only spent the last half-year trying to get
my non-WinblowsMe to the point where it can connect to an ISP
\_ You are an idiot.
thru ISDN. That frikk'n 'gated' daemon problem took me days to
solve.. but I finally got that hacked. Now, I've got some
\_ Days? You are an idiot.
nimwit who thinx I should go and donate more bux to the Food For
Bill Fund. One-der-Full. I don't even have a BS in networking.
\_ With an OS at your Fu Level, it would've taken 30 minutes
at most. Even for you.
I'll figure it out myself... it just takes time and I was kind
of hoping somebuddy could help me out here. *waaah* -mtbb
\_ Obviously not. It was too hard. Now if you had chosen an
easier to support OS....
\_ A real OS doesn't crash and burn every 12 hours. Even NT sucks.
\_ If you crash NT every 12 hours then you must be doing
\_ Obviously they're not teaching interface design classes.
The 95/NT is mediocre but at least it works.
something stupid like installing random crap off the net
\_ Mostly. And your point is?
as an admin. Anyway, the original poster still needs an
OS for clueless people. 95/98/NT will play his netrek
without the need for a PhD in networking. You are an
idiot.
\_ I managed to get NT to panic as a non-super user.
Now, that's pretty sad.
\_ Are you saying Linux isn't a real OS?
\_ People just like to ridicule Linux as being a fake OS
because they're too lazy to replace their prepackaged
\_ Linux will never take over as long as the interface
sucks and it requires a CS geek to get running. Or
in this case a CS geek is appealing to other CS geeks
for help (and still hasn't gotten any, btw).
shrink wrapped OS's with something real. And every
semester, yet another 162/61C prof shows what a great
example of an operating system Linux is and how horribly
designed Microsoft operating systems are. But who are we
to listen to people like Dave Patterson and Culler.
They know nothing about system software. They only spent
the last 20 years studying about them.
\_ Isn't Win95 just DOS with a graphical interfact on top of it?
\_ just out of curiosity, how do people here compare OS2 with
win95/NT?
\_ OS/2 is a real OS from the ground up, Win95 is just a
graphical shell on top of DOS. Don't know much about NT,
but I guess it's real too (although it sucks.)
\_ It's so funny how so many awesome operating systems
that are 10x better than Windows have failed to
dominate the PC markert. Hopefully linux will succeed
since M$ will have nobody to sue this time.
\_ It's funny how M$ talks about their "OS"es:
When Win3.1 came out: "You can have multitasking with Win3.1!"
When Win95 came out: "You can have preemptive multitasking
with 95!"
When NT came out: "You can have true multitasking with NT!"
\_ I was told that NT = VMS. Is this true?
\_ I think it's because Dave Cutler (?), one of the
main VMS guys, was hired by M$ to put together NT.
also, I don't know if it's an urban legend, but
supposedly VMS + 1 = WNT. Har har. -John
\_ cutler was at dec west working on the then next
generation processor + os. I think it was called
spectrum or something (it was many years ago, and
i have reclaimed the storage for that stuff). dec
canned that project in favor of mips, and the hw
side of the team went off to do alpha, which ended
up killing mips inside dec. most of the sw side of
the team went with cutler to microsoft to do nt.
according to people who claim to know, nt has
striking similarities to the cancelled dec work.
Er ... so what multitasking was I getting in 3.1 again?
\_ synchronous time division multiplexing
\_ It works OK with nice, well-behaved programs (like the
ones that DON'T come with Win 3.1)
\_ Sega Dreamcast uses Windows CE. That's freaky.
\_ If you were dealing with FreeBSD I could answer your question
better, sine I know how its ipfw setup works. Basically, you
need to remove IP filtering from the kernel, or just give it
the barest set of forwarding rules. Usuallly this is:
/sbin/ipfw add 65000 pass all from any to any
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