Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:January:21 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
1999/1/21-24 [Industry/Jobs] UID:15264 Activity:nil
1/20    The VA Experimental Audiology Research Laboratory in Martinez is
        looking to hire a computer technician; /csua/pub/jobs/VA-tech -brg
        \_ brg needs to be sodomized
1999/1/21-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15265 Activity:moderate
1/20    Does anyone know what service binds to port 135 on WinNT? -Quoc
        \_ One of the netbios wins name thingies.
        \_ Telnet there and give it lots of garbage input and see if
           it does anything kewl like crash the machine, otherwise don't
           worry about it.  -John
                \_ Only on an unpatched NT box.
                \_ Only on an unpatched NT box.  Only a complete and utter
                   moron puts an unpatched box on the net for longer than the
                   5 minutes it takes to run the SP.
        \_ its netbios-nameservice, aka WINS
           \_ Didn't like my answer?  I already said this.
1999/1/21-28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:15266 Activity:nil 58%like:15371
01/20   Next Politburo Meeting - Tues. Jan. 26 1999 - 7:00pm - 337 Soda
1999/1/21-23 [Uncategorized] UID:15267 Activity:moderate
        \_ arf
          \_ woof!
            \_ bark
              \- I guess this is what they mean when they say "The typical
                 soda user... -leblon
                \_ BINGO!  Give that man a prize!
1999/1/21-23 [Computer/HW/Soundcard] UID:15268 Activity:moderate
1/20    When you play an audio CD on a PC is the data read by the CDROM
        read by the OS and sent to the soundcard or is there some kind of
        special purpose hardware that directly sends data from the player
        to the soundcard?
        \_ yes
        \_ open up your computer case and you'll see a wire leading from
           the cdrom to the soundcard.
           \_ it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to simply let the
              OS handle it.
                \_ it's not "that hard" to have the OS handle, for example,
                   modem services, but it's still stupid.  -tom
                   \_ Not if you're a company selling sw/hw.  :-)
                \_ Mebbe you got cycles to spare, but most of planet earth
                   is trying to squeeze some useful productivity out of
                   hoggish Microsoft bloatware, and having the OS handle CD
                   audio may be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
        \_ The cdrom does the digital->audio conversion internally, and then
          has an analog audio output connector (and headphone jacks if you
          have a good cdrom player)  That audio connector is usually hooked
          up to the soundcard, which just amplifies it and sends it to your
          speakers. -ERic
1999/1/21-23 [Uncategorized] UID:15269 Activity:nil
1/21    'leet new debugger?
1999/1/21-23 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15270 Activity:kinda low
1/21    How do I easily add symbolic link like /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/K15httpd, into
        all the rc1 through rc6 directories?
        \_ sounds like a job for a simple foreach loop
        \_ bash
           foreach i (`ls /etc/rc.d/ | grep rc`)
           ? ln -s /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd /etc/rc.d/$i/K15httpd
           ? end
            \_ By the way, if you're using RedHat Linux there's tksysv which
               will do this for you. ~jefe/pub/tksysv
            \_ (t)csh syntax is exactly the same, except of course,
               you can do the foreach as 'foreach i (/etc/rc.d/rc[1-6])' -ERic
        \_ fyi: The Solaris standard is a hard link.  (ln, not ln -s) -ax
           \_ FYI: Sun is schizophrenic. S89bdconfig, comes with the OS,
               is a soft link.
               All the Symon and SDS rc scripts are soft links.
        \_ I didn't say Sun followed their own standards!  :) -ax
1999/1/21-24 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15271 Activity:high
1/21    CS department network services
        people of questionable intellect, please view /tmp/policy.txt.
        \_ it seems as though this policy is regarding desktop machines
           within the department and has nothing to do with anyone's home
           machines.  is this not the case?
        \_ There was an incident like this at UCLA where a dorm student had
           his ethernet port disabled because he was running a multiuser
        \_ that's pretty lame if you can't run daemons without asking for
           permissions first.
        \_ impossible to enforce. You stupid fools.
           \_ not impossible. Not against 95% of the people that want to
              run them. They just do port scanning on specific ports.
              \_ They can't force you to pay for their services or wipe your
                 disk with a "by running linux you have implicitly agreed to
                 this policy" statement.  That's just some power tripping
                 moron making shit up.  As for the rest, it's just stupid.
                 They don't take care of their own site security and couldn't
                 tell if someone else's machine was insecure so what's the
                 point?  It's just silly.  They are silly stupid people and I
                 fart in their general direction.
                  \_ Hello?  Did you read the part that said this is the
                        "CS dept. network" policy?  They're not "charging you"
                        - this covers machines owned by the CS dept. and on
                        their network - they have the right to define how
                        their property (computers & network) is used.
                        \_ Read it again.  They don't have the right to create
                           a policy that you're pre-agreed to simply by having
                           a linux box on the network without making sure
                           you're read and signed the agreement first.  Wake
                           up.  This is so incredibly open to abuse, it isn't
                           even laughable.  Actually, its down right scary.
                                \_ If you've got a box on the CS dept. network
                                   it's either owned by the CS dept. or a CS
                                   student group who agreed to follow CS
                                   \_ Even the ones which can cost you money
                                      without your having been made
                                      specifically aware of such costs.  The
                                      policy is ridiculous and scary.
                                \_ What's ridiculous is the idea that
                                   you can plug whatever you want into
                                   campus network connections.  -tom
                                   campus network connections.  The CS
                                   department owns the connection, and is
                                   having major problems with unsupported
                                   Unix boxes, primarily Linux.  This is
                                   happening all over campus.  While I don't
                                   agree with all the points of the policy,
                                   I fully support the department's right to
                                   control its own network.  -tom
                                   \_ I agree that they have a right to kick
                                      you off, but not to say that merely
                                      running a particular OS implies your
                                      consent to their entire policy including
                                      charging you a bogus security fine
                                      without making any effort to educate
                                      anyone about the existence of this
                                      policy.  In fact, I doubt it's either
                                      legal or possible to assign such a bogus
                                      charge to anyone's CARS bill.
                                      charge to anyone's CARS bill.  An empty
                                      threat is stupid.  This is a research
                                      and educational institution.  They
                                      should educate, not slap random
                                      punishments around they can't enforce.
                                        \_ It doesn't mention CARS bills,
                                           because the CS dept. doesn't allow
                                           students to plug in their computers
                                           in Soda Hall.  This is about
                                           how the dept. 'charges' the various
                                           research projects in soda hall.
                                           \_ Hahahahhahha, I'd like to see
                                              those monkey faced little shits
                                              try to charge my Prof. for this!
                        \_ Yes I did.  It didn't say I could plug in my own
                           machine and run all those services without getting
                           squished.  They have the right to turn off a
                           network connection but not to charge me for their
                           worthless security check/approval.  Can you say,
                           "stupid invasive big brotherish morons invent yet
                           another ridiculous set of paranoid self defeating
                           idiotic 'policies' again"?  Knew you could.
                                \_ YOU CAN'T PLUG IN ANY MACHINE OF YOURS TO
                                   THE CS DEPT. NETWORK.  This has nothing
                                   to do with personal machines at home.  It
                                   ONLY COVERS MACHINES IN SODA HALL.
                                   \_ I didn't say "at home".  I _can_ and
                                      _have_ plugged a machine in at soda hall.
                                      Thank you for playing.  Try again? (Y/n)
                                        \_ If you plugged your laptop in to
                                           a connection in soda hall, you are
                                           most likely doing so without
                                           permission and can get in much more
                                           trouble than just breaking the
                                           linux policy.
        \_ Anyone with more info? In what situations does that policy apply?
           \_ CalLUG is trying to find out more about this.  It looks like
              it is targeted at researchers in Soda Hall.  -- schoen
        \_ Well, "FreeBSD" doesn't appear anywhere in that policy; sounds
           like they're just trying to get you to make a sensible OS choice.
           \_ You will be absorbed.  It doesn't say I can't run all those
              exact same services on my far less secure win 95/nt box either.
1999/1/21-23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:15272 Activity:kinda low
1/21    The air supply fans in Soda Hall will be shut down today from
        10:30-2:30 for filter replacement.  If it gets a bit warm in
        any of the rooms, it is more than likely a temporary condition.
        \_ they're shutting off the air!  aaaaack! <gasp>
           \_ it's only engineers. no big loss.
        \_ When I first read this, I thought it was referring to those
                people who like the music of the band named Air Supply.
                I figured someone was pissed at people playing loud Air
                Supply music in Soda Hall
                \_ Seek help.
                        \_ Immediately.
1999/1/21-23 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15273 Activity:nil
1/21    reject your preloaded capitalist redmond OS!
1999/1/21-23 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:15274 Activity:nil
        Lego loses moeny for the first time.
        \_ I hate losing moeny, there is so little of it as it is...
1999/1/21-22 [Uncategorized] UID:15275 Activity:moderate
1/21    Last night's 20/20 report concludes that since 1939, on average, people
        have gained 2" in heigh, 4" in waiste line, +10 pounds (women), and
        +29 pounds (men).
        \_ Did 20/20 mention penile size and breast size?
           \_ Yes, -2" penile length for posting something stupid in the motd.
1999/1/21-23 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:15276 Activity:nil
1/21    Rewling ssh/telnet client for winblows...
        \_ Better ssh/telnet client for windows, and this one's free:
2018/12/13 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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