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1999/1/12-13 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15211 Activity:very high
1/11    Everyone hurry up and mock the new SGI Sellout line of NT/intel
        workstations before SGI dies a merciful death.
        \_ Intergraph Wildcat           210 CDRS        new
           SGI 540                      198 CDRS        new
           HP Kayak, Visualize FX6      190 CDRS        1.5 year old tech
           unless SGI thinks they can match or surpass -existing- HP
           or Intergraph technology on Windows NT, they're in trouble.
           \_ Okay, maybe dumb question.  What's CDRS?
        \_ if they're using intel chips then at least you can replace the
           operating system with a real one like Solaris, Linux, or FreeBSD.
        \_ Sellout?  Yeah better for them to keep selling machines that no
           that mob ties explain a lot about success,and also strategy.
           one will buy.  At least they'll still have their pride if not
           their jobs and stock.
                \_ you think going from being a real company to one
                   repackaging MS/Intel products is a way to keep pride?
                   \_ Nope.  Back to Reading Comp. 1A for you.
                      \_ "At least they'll still have their pride" in
                         respsonse to the announcement that SGI is using
                         an NT/intel combo.  I don't know what the hell
                         kind of education you got but you seem like the
                         one who needs to take Reading Comp. 1A.
                         \_ As I said.  Back to Reading Comp. 1A.  You still
                            have failed to read a simple English paragraph.
                            Hell, it wasn't even long enough to be a real
                            paragraph and you're still unable to read it.
                            You have it completely ass-backwards.  Try again.
                            \_ Actually, you've got it wrong.  Perhaps
                               you meant to say "they'd" instead of
                               "they'll."
                               \_ No.  I said _exactly_ what I meant and meant
                                  _exactly_ what I said.
           \_ What's the point?
        [ Idiotic arguement about English sytax deleted. ]
        \_ the idiot-grinning picture of Richard E. Belluzzo, the CEO
           of SGI, looks like a mobster. Actually, look at his name.
           Then consider he's in cahoots with redmond. Then consider
           that mob ties explain a lot about [m$] success,and also strategy.
           \_ Say what?
              \_ agreed.  what are you babbling about?
1999/1/12 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:15212 Activity:high
1/11    Anybody know of environmental organizations that needs volunteers
        to plant trees year round, and not just on arbor day?  I want to
        volunteer for such an organization. Any web site or other pointer
        would be greatly appreciated.
        \_ <DEAD>www.treehuggers.org<DEAD>
                \_ <DEAD>www.treehugginghippies.com<DEAD>
        \_ Friends of the Urban Forest do it here in SF: http://www.fuf.net -ausman
        \_ there's going to be an International Volunteer Conference on Feb 6,7
           Im sure they'd have info on tree volunteer stuff.    --sly
            From: Cal Corps Public Service Center <ccorps@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
            Community Service Around the World Conference and Expo
            February 6 & 7, 1999

            Register early or at the door on February 6th. To preregister,
            email conference@lafetra.org and request registration
            information.

            EVENT LOCATION
            MLK Student Union Building, corner of Bancroft and
            Telegraph on the UC Berkeley Campus

            URL: http://uga.berkeley.edu/calcorps
        \_ Thank you all for the pointers!
1999/1/12 [Uncategorized] UID:15213 Activity:nil
1/11    Would someone post the email/url of a "certificate authority" who
        has a QUICK turn around time.  I'm in kind of a rush.  (What would
        it take for me to set up a cert. authority myself?)
1999/1/12-13 [Computer/Networking] UID:15214 Activity:very high
1/12    Go PacBell!  ADSL for everyone!  Fresh panties all around!
        http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/990112/pacific_be_2.html
        \_ That $39 figure is deceptive. It is more like $80/mo once
           you add in phone and inet costs. It is still a cheap though. -ausman
           you add in phone and inet costs. It is still cheap though. -ausman
           \_ http://public.pacbell.net/dedicated/dsl/dsl_basic.html
              What is missing from that $49/month price? (this price was
              $90 just a couple days ago)
              \_ Cost of phone line.
        \_ Does this give you a STatic I.P. address since it is "always
           on"  (or will it still issue a new i.p. address  anytime the
            connection reset)? -crebbs
            \_ yes.
        \_ I heard you get one static IP.  I am totally psyched as I
           already ordered it and was prepared to pay $89 a month,
           and now I can get it for cheaper installation price,
           and $49 a month!!  -ax
           \_ they said it'll take 48 busines hours for them to figure out
              if i'm in available range of a DSL office. Damn.
              \_ so do those of us who already have DSL get screwed or do
                 we get a price cut ? -ERic
        \_ check http://www.pacbell.com/products/business/fastrak/dsl/dsl-availability.html
              It tends to be too conservative, though.  -ax
        \_ Fresh panties?
1999/1/12-13 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:15215 Activity:high
1/12    Oracle (aka. Debacle) REALLY SUCKS.     -new Debacle employee
        Warning: The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and
        do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation.
        \_ You should've been listening to the MOTD, with those near-monthly
           diatribes and complaints on all DB companies.
        \_ I've interned at M$ in 97, and sadly to say, the people at Debacle
           have IQ that is 1/10 of the people at M$. Now that is really
           pathetic                                     -new Debacle employee
        \_ I work for Debacle...those girls are cute.
           \_ is Debacle hiring?
1999/1/12-13 [Uncategorized] UID:15216 Activity:nil
1/12    Never believe anything you read in chain letters.  Nuff said.
        \_ Pass this on to 7 people within 7 days or you'll regret it.
1999/1/12-13 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:15217 Activity:nil
1/11    Are textbooks for Spring 1999 available at the big 3 bookstores
        (Ned's, CTE, ASUC) now? Thanks. -slow
                \_ It looks like the ASUC has a lot of them on the shelf
                   already.  Have not peeked into the other stores yet.
1999/1/12 [Consumer/CellPhone] UID:15218 Activity:nil
1/11    Does anyone know who sells either caller id boxes that will view
        caller id blocked calls, or boxes that strip the privacy bit off
        the call so a normal caller id will display it?  an url
        with comercialy available boxes, plans, or executeables would be
        greatly appreciated.  i know such boxes exist, and while its easy
        to find technical data on caller id, i dont want to have to design
        a box from scratch.  thanx.   -lafe
        \_ Dumbshit, if someone went to the trouble to block caller id, you
           could have a tiny shred of respect for their privacy.  I know how
           to do this but won't tell you.  Do it yourself, scumbag.  There's
           no valid use for this.
           \_ post your name, pussy.
              \_ Yawn.  Ok, here goes, "your name, pussy."  How's that?
           \_ idiot. If someone wants to hide their phone privacy, they
              wouldn't be calling random people at home who they don't know.
              \_ Who said at home?  If the ID is blocked, don't answer.
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