Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:January:06 Wednesday <Thursday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
1999/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:15170 Activity:high
1/5     I'm getting a new CD-RW drive and am considering different CD
        mastering software to use.  Does anyone have any preferences?  Why that
        particular software?
        \_  <-- everything you want to know
                                        \_ Including why you put in \ instead
                                           of / you DOS-loving moron?
                                           \_ What's wrong with DOS?  And why
                                              claim his error has anything to
                                              do with DOS?  The world was
                                              built on DOS, not unix, not
                                              windows, not macintosh.  You're
                                              probably too young to know that.
                                              \_ Yeah right, the world revolves
                                                 around desktop computers?
                                                 I dont *think* so. If DOS was
                                                 involved in the worlds
                                                 construction, it was in SPITE
                                                 of DOS.
           \_ stupid flames deleted
        \_ Adaptec EasyCD, which comes with most CD-R/RWs. Very simple and
           intuitive to use, yet powerful. I haven't tried other programs,
           but I have zero complaints about Adaptec.
        \_ CDRWin lets you copy Playstation games
        \_ How about Disc Juggler? Nero? Gear? NTI CD-Maker?
        \_ I use xcdroast. It works great.
1999/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/Editors, Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:15171 Activity:low
1/4     What brand/model of UPS comes with driver/software for Linux? Which
        one is affordable and reliable? Thanks.
                \_ Beware the hobgoblins and their little hobgoblin thoughts.
        \_ Learn how to use an editor. Dork.
                \_ Beware the hobgoblins and their little hobgoblin thoughts.
1999/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15172 Activity:nil
1/4     hi.  i dont really know quite how to compile this program
        that i found this morning.
        here are the first 7 lines (out of 15 output) that im
        getting when i compile (the rest of output is in

        % make -f Makefile
        cc -o mmv -O -pipe mmv.c
        mmv.c:115: conflicting types for `lseek'
        /usr/include/sys/types.h:161: previous declaration of `lseek'
        mmv.c:365: conflicting types for `memmove'
        /usr/include/string.h:55: previous declaration of `memmove'
        mmv.c: In function `init':

        can anybody point me to a particular man page or a web
        page or simply tell me what i need to do to compile this?
                thanks, hahnak (still learning)
        \_ pick up a C book or man lseek and memmove(for the first 2
           errors at least). BTW, permission of the log file
           isnt set up correctly either.
1999/1/6-7 [Computer/Companies/Apple] UID:15173 Activity:high
1/5     Anyone go see the MacWorld exhibitions?  Worth $40?
        \_ only if you think colored computers will save a company
        \_ If you have to pay for any computer convention, you
           are a loser. It is worth a free pass to sit in the
           3rd row and chant loudly: "I believe in Steve! I
           believe in Steve! I believe in Steve!"
        \_ troll deleted
           \_ Tom, you prick.
        \_ Intergraph got kicked out of MacWorld for displaying Wintel
           computers.  See:
        \_ If you have to play Sony Playstation games on your PMac G3/iMac
           today, you have no choice - it's the only place to buy virtual
           playstation for now (see Wed. SF Chron business section or
  for more info)
1999/1/6-7 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:15174 Activity:low
1/5     Any recommendations on an ADSL ISP?
        \_ tycho networks,
        \_ PBI has been plenty cheap so far...
1999/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:15175 Activity:low
1/4     What is *.rpm?
        \_ All the files that end in ".rpm".
          \_ Duohuohuohu yeah but like what does that extension represent?
             Like, how do you use'em?  What program/environment/process
              uses files which end in rpm?  Thenkyewclik.
                \_ RedHat Package Manager, a popular software package system
                   on Linux systems.  You usually "rpm -i" or "rpm -u" them.
                   See ""  -- schoen
        \_ All the rotations per minute in a particular directory.
                \_ It has to do with that rotating cursor, you know
                        \ | / - \ | / - \
                   \_ I thought it was the number of files with spinning icons
                      in a modern OS like MacOS-X?
1999/1/6-7 [Consumer/Camera, Finance/Shopping] UID:15176 Activity:high
1/3     I'm planning to co-locate a server (with 13 gig of HD). What is a
        good and really cheap affordable backup tape drive I can buy, with good
        Linux drivers?
            \_ Basically, DLT > 8mm (Exabyte || AIT) or 4mm (DAT)
                In my opinion, you're better off with even a DLT2000
                than an Exabyte (reliability sux) or a DAT drive (reliability
                also wanx) because in my 4 years x.p. in the backup field,
                never once have I seen a DLT drive fail.  If it's cleaned
                properly, write errors are few.  The newer AIT drives are
                better than Exabyte's (incidentally, Exabyte declined SONY
                the right to OEM there brand, hence AIT was formed) in
                terms of quality and performance, however, the price is not
                cheap, nor has the basic architecture of 8mm changed---tape
                path from hell.  The DLT has a much more natural (fewer
                winding heads, less tape tention) tape path than 8mm or even
                DAT.  The newer DLT7000 drives easily get 5MB/sec native
                compression (non-compression).  AIT and the newest DDS3 hum
                around 3MB/sec.  Tape drive makers claim you can get 2:1
                hardware compression if you turn it on (i.e. double your
                performance to 10MB/sec), but this depends on how compress-
                able your data is (bitmaps, text, database) and it increases
                wear-and-tear on the drive heads (they must stop-and-wait-
                for-data-compression-write-stop-repeat).  If I had a choice
                between 8mm and 4mm, I'd actually go with the 4mm - 8mm is
                not any more realiable to be worth the extra $pacebux.  Let
                me know if you need software.

                And next time, sign your name so I can send email to you.
                \_ I've never seen an Exabyte fail except for single tape that
                   had been severely abused.  How often have you seen Exabyte

                        \_ When DLT 2000s & 4000s were coming out, all the
                        vendors of Exabytes were sick of the piles of RMAs.
                        Once they began shipping DLTs instead of Exabytes,
                        all-the-sudden, those RMAs disappeared.  The problem
                        with Exabyte drives is the Tape Path From Hell.  It
                        wears down the tape, the drive heads, and since there
                        are more moving parts, there is a much greater chance
                        of tapes being eaten up, read/write heads breaking,
                        etc.  I have never seen a DLT drive eat a tape like
                        an Exabyte.  AIT seems to have solved some of these
                        issues by reducing the number of spindles and creating
                        a better tape path and integrating memory chips into
                        the tapes themselves (helps load and seek times).
                        While DLT7000s are still quite pricy, I think the
                        best price/performance deal on the market is the
                        DLT2000XT.  If you want 8mm, avoid the 85xx and 87xx
                        series.  The 8900 (Mammoth) drive is fair, but
                        expensive.  I worked for a year and a half at a backup
                        hardware/software re-seller, then for another two and
                        half years at a backup software company.  With drives I
                        personally handled, I had no failures with DLT, 1/1
                        Mammoth had problems loading tapes, 1/1 8700 broke twice
                        and uncountable 8500/8505 drive failures.  As for DAT
                        only a few problems with those drives.
        \_ Any brand-name standard SCSI DAT drive (Seagate, HP, ...).  You
           might want to ask whether there have been problems with a
           particular model you're considering.
          \_ DAT absolutely sucks.  Get the cheap DLT drive or AIT.  -tom
             \_ Ive read alot of stuff about how DATs are bad, but I've used
                the Eliant 820 8mm from Exabyte and haven't had any probs w/
                it thus far, in fact it backs up --sly
                \_ DAT is 4mm, not 8mm.  The old 8mm Exabyte stuff sucks
                   pretty bad too but the newer may be better.  I'm skeptical
                   of AIT.  DLT is much more reliable, but $$$ and the tapes
                   and drives are big.  If you just want something dirt cheap
                   the 1/4" drives work ok for occasional backups, but the
                   tapes are expensive.  DAT is ok if the environment is
                   good and you keep everything clean.  -phr
                        \_ we have DAT tapes in machine rooms that we clean
                           twice monthly and use new tapes every 3 months and
                           still have horrible reliability.  -tom
                \_ Yeah, but have you ever successfully done a restore? -ausman
             \_ What about 8mm tapes like Exabyte?
                \_ What do you think AIT is? --dim
                   \_ there are lotsa differences btwn normal 8mm and
                      AIT dipshit.. a cheap AIT drive is prob the best
                      solution.. dlt 4000 is prob good too but prob
                      gon be a bit more expensive but every bit as good
                      \_ Is AIT an 8mm format or isn't it? --dim
                \_ AIT uses 8mm tapes but it's not compatible with old-style
                   exabyte formats.  -tom
1999/1/6 [Computer/SW/Security, Academia/StanfUrd] UID:15177 Activity:nil
1/5     From about the Excel security hole:
        "We think this is probably the biggest security hole in Internet
        history," said Bill Lyons, Finjan's chief executive officer. "Any
        student at Stanford could exploit it."

        Yup!  Only M$ is dumb enough to have created such a huge security
        hole that even Stanfurd students can exploit it. :-)
1999/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:15178 Activity:nil
1/6     In DOS, we use FILES= in CONFIG.SYS to set the max. # of open files.
        How do I set the max. # of open files for a DOS app under Win95?
        Thank you.
        \_ You can still have, and use a CONFIG.SYS under Win95 if you
           want this way. Each DOS window will be able to open the max #
           of FILES= you specify. For the most part W95 is still DOS.
1999/1/6-7 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15179 Activity:high
1/5     Where can I grab kerberos for an irix machine?
        \_ this question shows a lack of conceptual understanding.
                \_ Then pray tell, oh enlightened one, where did I
                   stray from my path?
                \_ where you decided what you need instead of telling us
                   what you're trying to accomplish
                   \_ Twit.  Obviously he wants to install kerberos on an SGI.
        \_ Last I checked, no one had ported kerberos to SGI.  No client, no
           server.  Nada.  Nothing.  Zip.  Zilch.  Zero.  Unlike other people,
           I understand why you might want to install kerberos on an SGI to
           work in a pre-existing kerberos environment.  Maybe in the last
           year or so someone has done it, but I wouldn't bet money on it.
           Good luck on this one.  I was told it was a non-trivial port.
        \_ Get krb5. I have it compiled on our SGI's running Irix 6.2 and
           it seems to work. Stay away from krb4. -marc
1999/1/6 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:15180 Activity:nil
1/6     Oh, I'll be darned. Say hello to Tawei Liao:
        % netstat -a | grep tawei
        f4b47800 stream      0    f48ee680 0 /tmp/ssh-tawei/agent-socket-8677
1999/1/6-7 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:15181 Activity:nil
1/6     Let's say I do a "netstat -a" and see someone is hogging up a port
        that I need (ie. I'm running a MUD server). As a root, how do I
        delete the process that is associated with that port? Thanks.
        \_ use lsof to get the pid of the process that is using
           the port.
1999/1/6 [Uncategorized] UID:15182 Activity:nil
1/7     Hey Buddy, would you please pass the fondue? -mtbb
2017/09/26 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1999:January:06 Wednesday <Thursday>