11/12   Anybody here read either one of the following books have any
        opinions. I would like to get a book that explains protocols
        and layers sufficiently. Which one of the two below is better?
        Any suggestions..
        -- Computer Networks by Andrew S. Tanenbaum
        -- Computer Networks : A Systems Approach
             by Larry L. Peterson, Bruce S. Davie, Larry A. Peterson
        Thanks --marc
        \_ Can't say I've read either, but I learned most of what I know
           about networking from reading UNIX Network Programming by
           Stevens and working through writing some programs based on the
           information therein... YMMV -brg

11/12   [bizarre context free nut kicking story deleted]
        \_ What?  About my stupidity? ---shin

11/12   Bikes: Talk on bicycle direct action tonight with videos of protest
        including bridge rides tonight, 2040 VLSB --jnat
        \_ Woo hoo!  Bikes jamming the already over crowed bridge!! Yee haa!
        \_ BTW, why do we need railroad on the new bay bridge when we already
           have BART?
          \_ We don't but the various local mayors think we do and without
             their approval nothing will happen.
             \_ Ah I see.  C'mon, BART in commute hours is not even close
                to full capacity.  What a waste of money.  Maybe those mayors
                have some stake in some construction company ......
        \_ Hey, Mr Meggs, when will I see you lobbying for better paved
           roads around the East Bay?  --Jon

11/12   Couch:  the couch rides again tomorrow night -- lotsa bikes in a
        big fun group, some hauling furniture/friends/doggies..PARTY after
        5:30 PM downtown Berkeley BART, leaves 6PM, party 2295 Shattuck
        http://xinet.com/bike/couch

11/12   Wow, further proof that our dorms aren't as bad as we
        thought:
        http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/98/11/circuits/articles/12prin.html
        \_ Unit 2 Cunningham has had this since '92.
        \_ got a username/passwd for us to use?
           \_ cypherpunk/cypherpunk
           \_ just create one for yourself
           \_ It's free.  Try this:
                http://verify.nytimes.com/subscribe/sub-bin/new_sub.cgi
        \_ What's that sound?  Is that the sound of freedom being chipped
           away, bit by bit?  What's that?  It's for my safety?  Gee, thanks.
        \_ Anyone know the detection range for our prox cards?  Is it the
           ~3 cm you have to get to the readers to get them to unlock the
           door, or could they be read from a longer distance in theory?

11/12   When I was a student, I vaguely remember someone pointing me
        to an online copy of how to use AWK, possibly by the author of
        AWK. It was a TeX or nroff document. Can anyone tell me where
        to get this again?
        \_ 'man awk' is pretty good.
           \_ Yeah, but I'm beyond that. And besides which, I also
              want this document for historical purposes.
                \_ awk2perl.pl
        \_ I thought awk had three authorS.
           \_ yeah, I'm referring to the "main one" that is most
              associated with it. ALthough now I cant remember which
              one. sigh. Oh hell, maybe I'm just hallucinating, and
              it was one of those "special" manuscripts made just for
              berkeley/UC folks.
              \_ Aho Weisenberg Kernighan. Pick one. -ali
                \_ Aho
        \_ Have you posted to comp.lang.awk?

11/13   How do people deal with pgp under multiple accounts?  Do they
        simply recreate a new key all together or do they use the same one?
        Also, if you change things like your email address or passphrase
        do you have to redistribute your public key all over again or
        can your corresponents use the same key.  thx. --pgp hozer
                \_ Is that you, mark?

11/13   Happy Fri the 13th.
        \_ fuck you
          \_ No fuck you
             \_ fuck the both of you. both ends.
                \_ fuck you, fuckball
                   \_ fuck off, fucker
                      \_ No, fuck MEEEE!!!
                         Oh, waitamint... I forgot where I was writing this.
                         I need to post this on soc.feminism
        \_ Fuck all of your superstitious assholes.
           \_ But the 13th is for asshole fucking!