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1998/10/29-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:14850 Activity:nil
10/28   Two contract pos'ns in L.A.  Learning Tree.  DHTML.
        /csua/pub/jobs/LearningTree -jctwu
1998/10/29-31 [Computer/SW/Apps, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:14851 Activity:low
10/28   For those who already have Photoshop 5, what are some of the key
        features you like? Is it really worth upgrading from 4 to 5? Thanks.
        \_ multiple undos = GOOD THING. also smarter selection tools.
           much better text manipulation. but is this and more worth the
           upgrade? judgement call here... imho, no.
           \_ and for about $0 you can get a lot of the same high quality
              image manip tools as Photoshop. http://www.gimp.org
              \_ And it works with my Wacom Artz II =)  --dbushong
                 \_ what is that?..some kind of pen input device? The last
                    time i used one of those i found it to be more annoying
                    than helpful
        \_ The text manipulation is only good for non-web graphics (ie
           print graphics)... There's a kerning bug in PS5 which prevents
           it from rendering decent web type. -- chucky
           \_ chucky needs to be sodomized
           \_ seano needs to be sodomized
        \_ I like Dr. Watson.
1998/10/29-31 [Science/GlobalWarming, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:14852 Activity:moderate
10/28   http://www.salonmagazine.com/news/1998/10/27newsb.html has an
        interesting take on Proposition 9.  Anyone know of other good
        voting information sites?
        \_ on localhost in /dev/null...personaly I am trying to find out
           how to get my ballot in chines alowing make to make
           how to get my ballot in chines allowing me to make
           a provably random selection.

Idiocy deleted.
        \_ You forgot to delete the rest of the motd, including this thread.
                \_ I didn't say "all idiocy deleted"
I was forwarded this from a co-worker. I did this and I'm telling you, it's
really weird.  Follow the directions slowly, and do not go forward until told
to do so.  I think you will find this really eerie(and very true...).

This is quite amazing but its fun and seems to work!!

Enjoy!!

SPOOKY - Do this its quite wierd...

First things first:

NO CHEATING

Really.  I mean it.

Don't cheat.

This is a little game that has a pretty funny/creepy outcome.  Don't read
ahead, just do it in order.  It takes about 3 minutes It's worth it.  It's
kinda eerie....

First, Get a blank piece of paper and pen.

P.S. When you are asked to choose names, make sure it's people you ACTUALLY
KNOW, and go with your first instincts!

Scroll down one line at a time - don't read ahead or you'll ruin the fun!!

1.) First, write the numbers 1 through 11 in a column.

2.) Then, beside numbers 1 and 2, write any two numbers you want.

3.) Beside the 3 and 7, write down the names of members of the opposite sex
(or same sex if you're gay).  Don't look ahead-or it won't turn out right!

4.) Write anyone's name (like friends or family...) in the 4th, 5th and 6th
spots.  Don't cheat or you'll be upset that you did.

5.) Write down four song titles in 8, 9, 10 and 11.

6.) Finally, make a wish.....

And here is the key for that game..

1.)  You must tell (the number in space 2) people about this game in (the
number in space 1) days in order to make your wish come true.

2.)  The person in space 3 is the one that you love.

3.) The person in 7 is one you like but can't work out.

4.) You care most about the person you put in 4.

5.) The person you name in number 5 is the one who knows you very well.

6.) The person you name in 6 is your lucky star (I have no idea what this
means but it sounds good!)

7.) The song in 8 is the song that matches with the person in 3

8.) The title in 9 is the song for the person in 7.

9.) The tenth space is the song that tells you most about your mind.

10.) And 11 is the song telling how you feel about life!

                       GOOD LUCK!
Idiocy deleted again.
1998/10/29-31 [Academia/StanfUrd] UID:14853 Activity:moderate
10/28   The "Tree" from Stanford sounds like a complete idiot. Thanks for
        your deep insights -- you sure do put Cal students to shame.

        "It has come to my attention that perhaps our friends at Cal have
        a limited understanding of the organic world," Henderson said in
        his statement. "It seems that they mistakenly believe they have
        stolen a living thing. This is not the case. The Tree costume is
        an inanimate object. It does not move; it does not think; it does
        not write letters, especially letters which deprecate Stanford.

        "Stop talking to a pile of fabric and show a little backbone.
        Currently, there is some debate over whether stealing the costume
        is a misdemeanor or a felony. I assure you that kidnapping the
        real Tree is a federal offense. This is called Big Game for a
        reason. Get big. Get me."
                        -- Chris Henderson, The Stanford Daily, 10/28/98
        \_ What is the incident that the article is referring to?
           \_ Supposedly some Cal person stole the tree costume and is
              holding it hostage. Robert Berdahl has given an ultimatum
              that if it isn't returned, no Oskie at Cal football games.
           \_ The stealing of the Stanford Tree costume by some Cal
              students dubbed "The Phoenix Five." Are you not on campus?
                \_ Actually, no, I'm not on campus.  I graduated 5 years ago.
                   Gotta keep up with campus news more often.
                \_ Berdahl is banning Oski from the big game as a result.
                   BTW, why is it that Stanford has a tree running around
                   the games when its mascot is actually a cardinal.
                   Wouldn't it make more sense to have a big red bird (or
                   a high ranking priest) on the sidelines?
                        \_ the mascot is "cardinal", the color, not the bird
                           or the cleric.  The tree is the mascot of the
                           (extroadinarily lame) band.  -tom
                           \_ Well they could have a guy dressed in a red blob
                           \_ Isn't it because Stanford is in Palo Alto,
                              which means "tall tree" in Spanish?
                                \_ there was some stupid tree on campus
                                   that got cut down.  it's in their logo,
                                   too.  -tom
                              \_ funny, I thought it meant "tall hill"
                                 \_ Nah, it means "High Stick". They were
                                    named by Spanish hockey fans.
                                 \_ I dunno, I took french in high school,
                                    but growing up in the area, I thought
                                    that's what they taught us about Palo
                                    Alto. There was something dealing with
                                    a tree and that city.
                        \_ The Phoenix Five said they'd return the Tree
                           before the Big Game, so Oski will get to
                           appear. However because the Tree wasn't
                           returned by yesterday midnight's deadline, Oski
                           is banned from the Oregon St. game this
                           Saturday. Big deal.
        \_ Return the tree, already.  It is just a pile of fabric, and it
           belongs to someone else.
           \_ Yeah, and the Axe is just another tool to chop trees with.
1998/10/29-31 [Computer/Domains, Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:14854 Activity:nil
10/28   Happy birtday to Bill Gates.
        \_ I'll send him a Linux CD.
           \_ no don't. if you do he'll have the linux OS copyrighted under
              microsoft and then we'll all have to pay for linux not to
              mention that it will actually start crashing.  and we won't
              be able to do anything about it because if you do their
              lawyers will sue you blind.
        \_ I wonder if there's a way to change every single DNS entry in
           the world so that it gives them netscape's DNS entry.
           \_ There used to be a bug in named tht you could do that with.
             Most nameservers sould have it patched by now. The guy who used
             it to hijack http://www.internic.net got his sorry ass in BIG trouble.
           \_ Do you mean the real DNS or the stupid "Digital Nervous System"
              of Gates'?  -- yuen
1998/10/29-31 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:14855 Activity:moderate
10/29   I have a PC running PCSolaris and Win95 with an internal modem.
        So far I have only used the modem under Win95 to connect to a
        dialup line.  Does anyone know how I could use the modem under
        Solaris?  I don't have access to a PPP connection just dialup.
        Any clues or pointers to sites with clues would be appreciated.
        Thanks. -emin
        \_ no ppp? that sucks.  try minicom.
        \_ Use a unix side terminal program, like 'tip' or kermit or
           even Seyon.
        \_ Try this site http://www.phase-one.com.au/solaris-x86/pppd -marc
           \_ If you don't even have "tip", use "cu".
           \_ I think minicom also runs on Solaris.
           \_ I have tip and cu on my system but I am having trouble
              getting tip and cu to realize I have a modem.  I have an
              internal modem on ISA.  Does anyone know how to configure
              things so that tip and/or cu can talk to the modem?
              Thanks again. -emin
              \_ On SunOS 4 there's a file /etc/uucp/Devices to set up the
                 modem.  Look for a similar file in Solaris.  Read the man
                 page of "cu".
        \_ Try this site http://www.phase-one.com.au/solaris-x86/pppd
           I have another site that explains how to setup the native solaris
           ppp daemon. If you can wait a day I should have that info by
           tomorrow. -marc
           \_ note the "I don't have access to a PPP connection" part.
                \_ Oops. Then your only options are the tip or cu commands
                   that are currently installed on solaris by default. I
                   have never tried minicom, but it sounds like a good
                   alternative. -marc
        \_ after setting up "tip" properly, you can then use the linux program
           "term" to get multiple connections. kindasorta like a cross between
           ppp and rsh. You run it on both ends, and it multiplexes data
           streams, etc. fun stuff. soda used to have it installed(?), but
           it does not appear to have it right now.
           Which is perhaps a good thing, I suppose :-)
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