10/27   Why was there fireworks at Oakland last night?
        \_ That was my drug lab going up in smoke.  :-(

10/27   Is Netscape 4.5 worth upgrading to?
        \_ I've been running 4.5pr2 on my win95 box, and on OS 8.5
           for the last few weeks. IMAP is good, calendaring is kinda
           strange, but whatever. Crashes less often than 4.07...but
           not much less.
        \_ Make sure you have a lot of RAM. This sucker is over 12megs
           in size.
           \_ ns has been 12 megs for quite a while (ever since ver 4
              came out)
           \_ So you're saying it's worth downloading?
                \_ It crashes a bit less.
        \_ In my NT version I've got this problem once a while that when I
           go to a page, some or all of the elements in the page aren't
           displayed.  I then have to juggle it a bit (click on random places
           on the page, click on menus, move the window, "Back" and "Forward",
           etc.) to get all the elements to show up.  Does anyone else have the
           same problem?
           \_ I don't think that's a netscape problem.  NT programs just
              behave eratically.  Take cs 150 and you'll know.
              \_ But NS4.0 on the same NT machine didn't have the same problem.
              \_ What does a crappy OS have to do with CS150?  You mean CS162?
                 \_ it doesn't but we use NT which isn't the most reliable
                    thing in the world.  162 OS's suck because they are
                    written by sleep deprived students and are emulated.
                  \_ If you took 150 and 162 you'd know what he was talking
                     about.
                        \_ Do you mean 152?  I took 150 and 162 and still
                           don't know what he's talking about.  Is there
                           something taught in 150 that I didn't know about?
                           \_ clueless: they use NT in the 150 labs.  Hence,
                              this relates to the original statement: "NT
                              programs behave eratically" because the 150
                              NT machines crash all the time.  Would you
                              like to buy another clue?
        \_ Subjectively, it's more stable than the 4.0x versions I've used
           I'm using FreeBSD, but geordan said he sees the same thing in
           the Solaris version --dbushong

10/27   On a relating note Apple is renaming there OS from Mac X too
        Mac conFusion 2000. 8^)
        \_ On a related note, micro$quish renamed (it's just around the
           corner, really, there have only been final betas of NT5, I
           mean, windoze Y2K since nineteen ninety seven) their whack
           ass-takes-up-hundreds-of-megs-for-nothing OS yet again too.

10/27   What are the different meanings of the various ways a woman
        wears a ring or two.
        \_ If she's wearing a rock, she's engaged.  Stay away.  Hitting on
           her will only annoy her and maybe get you beat up.
           \_ you sound like you have experience.
                \_ On both sides.  I don't want mine getting hit on and who
                   would want a woman that would leave so easily once engaged?
                   If she leaves me, she'll leave you, too.
        \_ Rock on left-hand ring (next to pinky) finger = engaged
           Gold band on left-hand ring finger = married
           <= Silver on left-hand ring finger = almost-engaged, SO, or married
           Band on right-hand ring finger = likely SO
           single/multiple bands of questionable precious mineral = single
           ", and attractive ear-rings = single, looking
           \_ howerver, there is "white gold", which looks like silver.
              \_ You mean "platinum", right?  -- another Chinese
                 \_ White gold is gold and silver.  It is not platinum.
Merriam-Webster's Collegiate(R) Dictionary contains 15 items
relevant for "gold".
...
white gold n (1666): a pale alloy of gold esp. with nickel or
palladium that resembles platinum in appearance
           \_ Does rock mean (fake) diamond?  What does SO mean?
              \_ SO = Significant Other. If you need further explanation,
                 then you need help.
                 \_ I guess I do need help.  Does SO mean boy/girlfriend
                    partner, or what?
                        \_ can be either/or.  it's gender-neutral.
              \_ Yes, rock means diamond.  -- another loser
           \_ How do they show that they are divorced?
                \_ They have kids and they're desperate.  They'll sleep with
                   you.  They have no pride.

10/27   Does anyone know a place in the south bay that would welcome a
        donation of an old 286 and two 386's?  Thanks in advance.
        \_ If you can manage to get up to Berkeley with them, perhaps
           Berkeley Neighborhood Computers would like them; see their page at
           "http://www.wenet.net/~bnc/"  They also have some lists of, and
           information about, similar organizations.  Generally, they look like
           a worthwhile organization.  -- schoen

10/27   Microsoft has decided to rename Windows NT 5.0 to Windows 2000
        for the year 2000. I guess we can see a trend here.  check out
        http://www.news.com
        \_ "Windows 2000 will emerge in 1999, and will become a
            substantial part of the market by the year 2000."
                        --- Brad Chase, vice president of Windows marketing
            \_ I have my doubts that either of these will happen.
        \_ Windows 2000: the number of new bugs introduced that'll have to
           be fixed by SP2 before anyone takes it semi-seriously.

10/27   Solaris 7 is out. http://www.sun.com
        \_ the next release will be solaris 80
        \_ the idiots in marketing are caling it "Solaris 7" on the
                        \_ It's still 2.7, the "2." are just silent 8-)
           "personal use" purchase pages. But they get it right on
           the actual order form. And yes, they've actually made
           an acceptible ordering system this time!
           Interesting change: there is no separate selection for
           sparc or intel. You get "sparc/intel media"
                \_ Most end users were pretty pissed off when their
                  Solaris 2.6 for Sparc CD didn't work on their brand
                  new Ultra 5's and Ultra 10's which use PCI busses
                  rather than the old standard SBus architecture.
                  Basically their shipping more PC-like servers, hence
                  it makes more sense to combine the O.S. seperation.
           \_ So is Windoze NT4.0.  The same package includes PC and Dec Alpha
              versions.
        \_ The idiots in marketing decided now that everyone has figured
           direct to <DEAD>www.stardivision.com/freesolaris<DEAD>
           if you're a sick sparc-at-home puppy like me.
           Oh. actually for x86 also.
[17~
            out their Solaris 1.x & 2.x silliness they needed to find a
                new way to fuck with everyone's minds.
        \_ does this make it like sunos 10 then? -shac
                \_ Solaris 7 = SunOS 5.7 + OpenWin 3.6.1 + CDE 1.3
        \_ BTW: stardivision has finally ranked solaris on a personal lvel
           withlinux. announcement on http://www.sun.com but skip that and go
           to <DEAD>www.stardivision.com/freesolaris<DEAD>
           And next time, be more careful about trimming the bottom of
           the motd
           Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?

   By Bruce Heffernan

         Look, I'm not a hateful person or anything--I believe we should
   all live and let live. But lately, I've been having a real problem
   with these homosexuals. You see, just about wherever I go these days,
   one of them approaches me and starts sucking my cock.

         Take last Sunday, for instance, when I casually struck up a
   conversation with this guy in the health-club locker room. Nothing
   fruity, just a couple of fellas talking about their workout routines
   while enjoying a nice hot shower. The guy looked like a real man's
   man, too--big biceps, meaty thighs, thick neck. He didn't seem the
   least bit gay. At least not until he started sucking my cock, that is.

         Where does this queer get the nerve to suck my cock? Did I look
   gay to him? Was I wearing a pink feather boa without realizing it? I
   don't recall the phrase, "Suck my cock" entering the conversation, and
   I don't have a sign around my neck that reads, "Please, You
   Homosexuals, Suck My Cock."

         I've got nothing against homosexuals. Let them be free to do
   their gay thing in peace, I say. But when they start sucking my cock,
   then I've got a real problem.

         Then there was the time I was hiking through the woods and came
   across a rugged-looking, blond-haired man in his early 30s. He seemed
   straight enough to me while we were bathing in that mountain stream,
   but, before you know it, he's sucking my cock!

         What is it with these homos? Can't they control their sexual
   urges? Aren't there enough gay cocks out there for them to suck on
   without them having to target normal people like me?

         Believe me, I have no interest in getting my cock sucked by some
   queer. But try telling that to the guy at the beach club. Or the one
   at the video store. Or the one who catered my wedding. Or any of the
   countless other homos who've come on to me recently. All of them
   sucked my cock, and there was nothing I could do to stop them.

         I tell you, when a homosexual is sucking your cock, a lot of
   strange thoughts go through your head: How the hell did this happen?
   Where did this fairy ever get the idea that I was gay? And where did
   he get those fantastic boots?

         It screws with your head at other times, too. Every time a man
   passes me on the street, I'm afraid he's going to grab me and drag me
   off to some bathroom to suck my cock. I've even started to visualize
   these repulsive cock-sucking episodes during the healthy, heterosexual
   marital relations I enjoy with my wife--even some that haven't
   actually happened, like the sweaty, post-game locker-room tryst with
   Vancouver Canucks forward Mark Messier that I can't seem to stop
   thinking about.

         Things could be worse, I suppose. It could be women trying to
   suck my cock, which would be adultery and would make me feel
   tremendously guilty. As it is, I'm just angry and sickened. But
   believe me, that's enough. I don't know what makes these homosexuals
   mistake me for a guy who wants his cock sucked, and, frankly, I don't
   want to know. I just wish there were some way to get them to stop.

         I've tried all sorts of things to get them to stop, but it has
   all been to no avail. A few months back, I started wearing an
   intimidating-looking black leather thong with menacing metal studs in
   the hopes that it would frighten those faggots off, but it didn't
   work. In fact, it only seemed to encourage them. Then, I really
   started getting rough, slapping them around whenever they were sucking
   my cock, but that failed, too. Even pulling out of their mouths just
   before ejaculation and shooting sperm all over their face, neck, chest
   and hair seemed to have no effect. What do I have to do to get the
   message across to these swishes?

         I swear, if these homosexuals don't take a hint and quit sucking
   my cock all the time, I'm going to have to resort to drastic
   measures--like maybe pinning them down to the cement floor of the
   loading dock with my powerful forearms and working my cock all the way
   up their butt so they understand loud and clear just how much I
   disapprove of their unwelcome advances. I mean, you can't get much
   more direct that that.
I was forwarded this from a co-worker. I did this and I'm telling you, it's
really weird.  Follow the directions slowly, and do not go forward until told
to do so.  I think you will find this really eerie(and very true...).

This is quite amazing but its fun and seems to work!!

Enjoy!!

SPOOKY - Do this its quite wierd...

First things first:

NO CHEATING

Really.  I mean it.

Don't cheat.

This is a little game that has a pretty funny/creepy outcome.  Don't read
ahead, just do it in order.  It takes about 3 minutes It's worth it.  It's
kinda eerie....

First, Get a blank piece of paper and pen.

P.S. When you are asked to choose names, make sure it's people you ACTUALLY
KNOW, and go with your first instincts!

Scroll down one line at a time - don't read ahead or you'll ruin the fun!!

1.) First, write the numbers 1 through 11 in a column.

2.) Then, beside numbers 1 and 2, write any two numbers you want.

3.) Beside the 3 and 7, write down the names of members of the opposite sex
(or same sex if you're gay).  Don't look ahead-or it won't turn out right!

4.) Write anyone's name (like friends or family...) in the 4th, 5th and 6th
spots.  Don't cheat or you'll be upset that you did.

5.) Write down four song titles in 8, 9, 10 and 11.

6.) Finally, make a wish.....

And here is the key for that game..

1.)  You must tell (the number in space 2) people about this game in (the
number in space 1) days in order to make your wish come true.

2.)  The person in space 3 is the one that you love.

3.) The person in 7 is one you like but can't work out.

4.) You care most about the person you put in 4.

5.) The person you name in number 5 is the one who knows you very well.

6.) The person you name in 6 is your lucky star (I have no idea what this
means but it sounds good!)

7.) The song in 8 is the song that matches with the person in 3

8.) The title in 9 is the song for the person in 7.

9.) The tenth space is the song that tells you most about your mind.

10.) And 11 is the song telling how you feel about life!

                       GOOD LUCK

10/27   Linux question, and yes I've checked all over the frickin' place: I run
        with xdm (runlevel 5), and whenever I'm logged in under X and switch
        to a virtual console, xdm kills my X session.  Any ideas what might
        cause this?  Mail me if so... -mogul
        \_ why would you want virtual consoles under X?
         \_   obItWorksFineUnderFreeBSD
         \_ Virtual consoles in parallel to X, not under it.
        \_ You might try ucb.os.linux

10/27   http://www.brunching.com/features/feature-yourmom.html

10/27   She is married but her husband is abroad.  How do I win her over?
        \_ Study painting, music theory, and poetry, but to win her
           favor, you must cook, and cook well. ;]
        \_ You are the dog sh*t that smells badly at midnight...
        \_ Dumbshit, she's married.  You don't win her over.  You're too
           fucking late.  Find someone else.  Show some respect.
        \_ 1) you don't "win her over." You can turn her into a regular
                screwtoy, but you don't win her over.
           2) Talk with her reguarly, make sure she
              doesn't fuck around with other guys (presumably, she's
              promiscuous). After two weeks of this, she will be horny
              enough. time to make move.
           3) See her regularly, dinner, lunch. Nothing fancy. You are not
              trying to impress her, you're trying to heat her up. No
              romance. Just make sure she sees you as a cool guy who's
              interested.
           4) The rest depends on how well you do the first 3.

10/27   So TV Guide says TCI has Comedy Central on channel 1B. I call them
        up, and they go it's on 99B. I've had CC all this time! Fuck!
        \_ On a related note, I've getting free HBO and Ch31-60 this few
           weeks.  Is there some promotion going on?