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1998/10/1 [Health/Dental, Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:14707 Activity:high
9/28    MCB majors suck, EECS rewls, end of long and pointless motd.
        \_ motd forwarded - thanks much!
           ... maybe you will save some poor souls. -jctwu
        \_ So your doctor/dentist is an EECS major, I assume.
                \_ I don't have medical problems.  Thanks for caring though.
                I self-medicate when necessary.
1998/10/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14708 Activity:nil
9/29    Hourly/daily plain-text motd backups in ~jctwu/motd. :P
        \_ wasn't mehlhaff already doing this? - danh
1998/10/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:14709 Activity:high
10/1    How do you change the return address of a ping packet?  I want to
        flood ping a spammer.
        \_ read the src herman
        \_ If you don't know what you're doing, you'll get caught, possibly
           get sued, and line their pockets.  Find a way to fight them that
           lies within the scope of your skills.  Also, should someone explain
           to you how to do what you want or (heaven forbid) you figure it
           out on your own, do _not_ do this from soda.  We will get in trouble,
           you will get squished.
           \_ The man speaks truth. We'll be a-watching. --root
        \_ it's simple, just use the 'remote manipulation' command, 'rm'. it
           has the nifty options -r '(r)ewrite address' and -f '(f)orge source'.
           and as an added bonus you can give '*' as the source address, which
           will make the packets untraceable. (it's like putting '*' in the
           shadow password file so that people can't read your password.)
1998/10/1 [Uncategorized] UID:14710 Activity:kinda low
10/1    I haven't been following it for the last couple of weeks but what
        happened to the Animaniacs that used to be on 3:30?  There's some
        hoaky cartoon now called Hysteria.  What's up with that?
        \_ Animaniacs are now on Cartoon Network - get cable.
           \_ doh!
1998/10/1-5 [Computer/SW/Languages] UID:14711 Activity:kinda low
10/1    Are there price trackers for noncomputer consumer products, from
        electronics to housewares?
        \_ do you mean comparison shopping search agents?
           \_ Yes.
           \_ Yes.  Are there any?
              \_ Shameless plug: http://www.bookfinder.com for used/out of print books
                 Also nice are <DEAD>www.pcphotoforum.com<DEAD> (digital cameras)
                 http://www.wirelessadvisor.com (call phones), http://www.gemm.com (music),
                 and Junglee (<DEAD>www.junglee.com/partners/wcdistlist.html<DEAD> for
                 a bunch of other random stuff  -anirvan
                 \_ err, try just <DEAD>www.junglee.com<DEAD> (and, as long as
                    people are plugging sites, their parent company,
                    http://www.amazon.com also has some books...)  -tsang
                 \_ Not sure if this counts as non-computer, but
                    http://www.pdapage.com is lovely.  An indispensible page that
                    may or may not fit your criteria is http://www.edmunds.com which
                    lists the dealer invoice price on pretty much every make
                    of car in existence.  I know that Inktomi bought up a
                    comparison shopping web company, but I don't know the
                    details on the company... Anyone from Inktomi care to
                    elaborate?  -mogul
1998/10/1-5 [Reference/BayArea] UID:14712 Activity:nil
9/30    Why isn't UPN showing the new season of DS9???
        \_ The UPN stations in LA, SF, & San Diego all got their contracts
           screwed up - see rec.arts.startrek.current or http://www.upn44.com
                \_ The Friday morning SF Chronicle has an article about it
        \_ Technically UPN never showed DS9 - it's syndicated to stations
           around the country - UPN affiliates in SF & LA; WB, ABC, Fox, etc.
           in other cities
1998/10/1-5 [Recreation/Humor] UID:14713 Activity:nil
10/1    This is pretty funny:
        http://kccomputeruser.com/public_html/feb98/2.html      -John
1998/10/1 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:14714 Activity:nil
10/1  Hi -- I sometimes like to read mail with command-line clients, but
      the most recent version of metamail doesn't seem to handle the
      html crap I occasionally get.   Are there any good mime handlers
      for html out there? thanks.
        \_ metamail can handle any mime type if you set it up in your
                .mailcap file - just add something like 'lynx -dump'
                for text/html
1998/10/1-5 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:14715 Activity:low
10/1    What's a good way to get back at a spammer without getting in
        trouble? I've been getting mail from the same person a lot.
        \_ Is this the College Tickling thing?  Anyway, complain to the
           spammer, the spammer's postmaster, the spammer's ISP, the spammer's
           ISP's upstream, etc. until you get results.  You can find out the
           relevant information pretty easily with "whois" and "traceroute".
                \_ I've found that an auto-reply bot/filter that instantly
                sends the message back gets the point across that a) it wasn't
                read, b) it didn't fill your spool, c) you didn't have to
                delete it, and d) they're really only spamming themselves.
                I use 'mh' for this.  I'm sure the procmail gurus have a way
                also.  Works like a charm.
                \_ Except you usually end up spamming some poor victim who
                   they forged the mail as coming from.
                        \_ Depends on if the source was personal or a
                        robotic UCE spammer.  Works fine for personal spam.
                        Robotic spam from the same source almost always has
                        something you can filter for and just auto-delete it.
        \_ Hit "d".  I used to get shitloads, and just ignored it.  Now I
           get like 2 a week, if that.  -John
                \_ Filters.  I used to hit 'd' but where I work now, all
                sorts of crap comes in.  Half of it is idiots complaining
                via their own spamming anti-spam robots about receiving
                spam from my site which didn't come from my site.
        \_ <DEAD>www.best.com/~ariel/nospam/index.shtml<DEAD>   [ It RULES! ]
1998/10/1-2 [Uncategorized] UID:14716 Activity:nil
10/1    KILL YOUR TEEVEE.
        \_ SHOVE GLASS UP YOUR ASS AND JUMP IN A VAT OF LYE
1998/10/1-5 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:14717 Activity:nil
10/1    Has anyone been able to successfully brandelf to FreeBSD a linux
        program that isn't statically linked (one that uses dynamic .so).
        I get an error under BSD that some library wasn't found.
        \_ Add that library.
1998/10/1-5 [Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager] UID:14718 Activity:moderate
10/1    Transparent xterm & CDE lookalike WM:
                http://www.moongroup.com/unix/xfce2.html
        \_ Not bad but how is its performance? AS and WMaker look more
           asthetically apealing but I'd rather have one that doesn't hog
           so much ram.
        \_ the web page is pretty much about the WM. Can you provide
           a link directly to the transparent xterm?
        \_ Why would anybody *want* to look like CDE in the first place ...
           as far as transparent xterms go, it looks like they're using
           An old version of Eterm w/o the pseudo-transparent code ... it's
           fairly obvious that it just has a similar-looking background.
           For the latest version of Eterm, see http://www.tcserv.com/Eterm
           - norby
           \_ Because it looks and feels better than twm
              \_ so does everything except for openlook
                 \_ that's debatable. twm is to openlook as dog food is to poi
                    \_ they both taste bad, but one's digestible?
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