Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1998:September:25 Friday <Thursday, Saturday>
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1998/9/25-1999/2/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:14667 Activity:nil 66%like:14670 50%like:16026 50%like:14827
09/24   Corporate spam now available in /csua/pub/recruiting
1998/9/25-26 [Uncategorized] UID:14668 Activity:nil 60%like:14659
9/24    Abuse John's chinchillas.  ~john/chinchillas.  -John
1998/9/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14669 Activity:very high
9/26    Just a quick update announcement: tom still has no penis.  thanks
        \_ shut up, shin.  -tom
           \_ what are you going to do - release the hounds? or the bees?
              or the hounds that shoot bees when they bark? well, go
              ahead.
                \_ shake shake shake, shake shake shake, shake your booty,
                   shake your booty.
                \_ I'm not going to do anything, except expose you for
                   the censoring coward that you are.  Of course other people
                   have been squished for continually munging the MOTD.  -tom
                   \_ You geek, that was an allusion to the Simpsons.
                   \_ How can a person be "squished" for doing anything to
                      the MOTD?
                        \_ chsh <user> /usr/local/bin/sorry
grep sorry /etc/passwd | wc -l
     188
        \_That's a lot of people to be squished. What did they do?
                        \_ That's /csua/adm/bin/sorry, fool. --root
                           \_ what is this program? all i got was a
                              message saying my account was turned off.
                                \_ you think that message magically appeared?
                                   the sorry program shows you a message
        \_ Another quick update; shin is still a fucking coward, not to
           mention an immature loser (penis jokes?)  -tom
                                   telling you why go to away and then sends
                                   you away.  moron.
                        \_ This the reason kchang got (thankfully) sorried?
                                \_ none of your business
                \_ There needs to be a motd.rant and a motd.help or some
                   other breakdown of motd.public
           \_ Does that matter to you? -shin

                        \_ motd.fuck.you
                \_ Oh well, I can always use OCF...   -shin
                        \_ only for now, OCF accounts go away after you
                          graduate, CSUA ones don't
                                \_ That's why I wanna have my WWW page on
                                   CSUA.  So that she will be able to keep
                                   in touch with me after my graduation.
                                        \_ she?
        \_ CSUA is a Penis-Free Zone.
                \_ Therefore is Babe-Free Zone
                    \_ Nah - we've got a nice collection of lesbian babes.
                      \_ Wannabe-pseudo-college-lesbians.  Not real
                         lesbians.  More like "lesbian for the week".
                             \_ that makes them way hotter. "real" lesbians
                                are psycho-millitant freaks. The wannabes are
                                just going through a "sexual awakening"
                                \_ Or maybe they're just claiming to be
                                   lesbians to keep away the pathetically
                                   desperate geeks who troll around here.
                                  \_ No way.  Experimental college "lesbians"
                                     are a big turn on.  I troll for lesbians.
1998/9/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:14670 Activity:high 66%like:14667
09/24   Corporate spam now available in /csua/pub/recruiting BUT YOU CAN'T
        READ IT BECAUSE IT'S NAZIED!  BWAHAHAAAAA!
        \_you're just not 31it3!@#!
        \_ They only want people who can crack root and read it.  -John
1998/9/25-26 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/Compilers] UID:14671 Activity:moderate
9/24    http://seanreilly.com/java/moneydance.html
        Quicken down, 1 less reason to use non-UNIX OSes...how many more to go?
        \_ Linux is pretty good for java apps because it has native
           processor support (kaffe) that no othe os's have.
           \_ what are you talking about, "native processor support"?
           That would normally mean "the processor natively supports java",
           which is obviously false. Do you mean "JIT compilation"?
           kaffe does that on lots of platforms.
           Do you mean "compiles to actual executables"? The kaffe web pages
           don't say it can do that, and I don't think it can.
                \_ there are java->native cpu compilers for other OS'es though
                        linux loses
                   \_ yah. What kaffe wins on will be its new awt
                       implementation. That is, when it actually works.
                       (it will run on DOS, though. wow. http://www.kaffe.org
           Do you mean "you can type the name of a java class, and it runs"?
           So WHAT?
           \_ From the RH linux package description on kaffe:
                "This is Kaffe, a virtula machine design to execute Java
                bytecode.  This machine can be configured in two modes.
                In one it operates as a pure bytecode interpreter (not
                unlike Javasoft's machine); in the second mode it performs
                "just-in-time" code conversion from the abstract code to
                the host machine's native code.  This will ultimately
                allow execution of Java code at the same spped as standard
                compiled code but while maintaining the advantages and
                flexibility of code independence."
                -RH linux installation guide
                \_ Note#1: linux was one of the LAST packages to get a JIT
                   compiler, compared to other major platforms
                   Note #2: THIS DOES NOT  "allow execution ... at same speed"
                   because real C code gets better optimization from the
                   compiler. And incidentaly, kaffe supports JIT on linux,
                   solaris, and a few other platforms. This is NOT
                   linux-specific in any way, shape or form.
            \_short summary: the above linux bigot is an idiot who wouldn't
                know a java compiler from a hole in his head
        \_ this looks kinda neat :)
1998/9/25-26 [Industry/Startup, Finance/Investment] UID:14672 Activity:high
9/25    salaried vs. contracting, which is better?
        \_ monthly wage vs. hourly wage. lots of benefits vs. minimal
           benefits. Same scene vs. constant change of scene. Of course,
           many other factors.
                \_ how about if i want to maximize cash income?
                   \_ Salary, with up to 20% into 401k (if you're talking
                      about maximizing over long-haul)
        \_ depends on the contracting company and how much they skim off
           (50-70% at Taos for instance) vs how many benefits they give
           (Taos is generous there by comparison to some)
           \_ 'give' is the wrong word for taos -- they 'offer' and you have
              to remember to go and take it.  Otherwise you get nothing...
           \_ I get 90K on salary or 150K on contract.  Which is better?
                \_ Salary.  They're paying health, various taxes, etc that
                you're sposed to pay both halves of on contract.
                \_ Nope.  Taxes are identical if you are W-2.
                \_ Contract is less stable.  If the company or economy is not
                   doing well, contractors are the first ones out.
                \_ Not always.  Schwab laid off 60 IS employees in '95, 0
                   contractors lost their jobs.
                   \_ that's cause the HR people at Schwab are absolute
                     MORONS. Them, and whaterver IS bigwig is linked to them.
                     (I've had a good look at the inside of Schwab. Not
                     a happy place)
                \_ Salary, there's potential to be rich with stock options
                   (if company is good).
                \_ Name one person you know personally who has hit it
                   rich with stock.
                   \_ *@inktomi.com
                   \_ Most of my co-workers made hundreds of thousand in stock
                      options from the 1995-1996 stock waves.
                        \_ Real cash or just theory money?
1998/9/25-26 [Reference/Celebration] UID:14673 Activity:nil
9/25    happy birthday william faulkner!
1998/9/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:14674 Activity:nil 66%like:14678
9/25    I need a roommate.  /csua/pub/ABATTOIR.  - danh
1998/9/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14675 Activity:nil
9/25    This probably sounds cheesy, but it's amazing how much I've gotten out
        of the motd. Forget everything else, the motd may well be the
        best reason to join the CSUA. To the folks who post here, and to
        the folks at CSUA who make it possible, thank you. Not many people
        could pull off something like this.
1998/9/25-26 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:14676 Activity:high
9/25    Anyone knows what's up with http://download.jp.microsoft.com?  It's been
        down for the whole week.
        \_ I think your question answers itself.
        \_ try ftp://ftp.redhat.com. it's a mirror site but the quality of
           the content is much better.
           \_ oh, just shut up.
              \_ but redhat DOES have of software that will work well
                 if you need Japanese capable software. And/or it is
                 compatible with it, and comes with the right fonts already.
1998/9/25-26 [Reference/RealEstate, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:14677 Activity:nil 66%like:14678
9/25    I also need a roommate. /csua/pub/housing/Campbell_CA*.  -andrewh
1998/9/25-28 [Reference/RealEstate, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:14678 Activity:nil 66%like:14674 66%like:14677 66%like:14690
9/25    I need a roommate.  /csua/pub/housing/ABATTOIR.  - danh
1998/9/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14679 Activity:high
9/25    Today's edition of Famous People Sorried on the CSUA:
  wjolitz:*:2265:100:William F. Jolitz:/home/w/wjolitz:/csua/adm/bin/sorry
        \_ How did that happen?
                \_ years ago
                   \_ How did that happen?
                        \_ None of your business.
        grep sorry /etc/passwd | wc -l
             188
        \_That's a lot of people to be squished. What did they do?
                \_ Asked too many stupid questions invading other's privacy.
                   (In other words: NONE OF YOUR FUCKING NOSY BUSINESS.)
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