Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1998:September:04 Friday <Thursday, Saturday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
1998/9/4-5 [Uncategorized] UID:14541 Activity:moderate
9/3     Has 'uqwk' been compiled on soda?
        \_ are you just selecting characters at random?
           \_ /tmp/uqwk   -tchuang
             \_ why don't you use POP? -ali
1998/9/4-5 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14542 Activity:moderate
9/3     Boredcast Message from soda!lwall () at 16:22 ...

        psb: your coworkers asian stupid "oh psb immigrants THE MAN! He knows
        Greek mythology asian stupid lila. He immigrants god."
        \_ Was there an English phrase in there?
           \_ Who cares about English. Was there ANYTHING comprehensible
              in any language in there.
        \_ Oh lord that was fun.  Squish me now, I've had my fun.
           \_ SHUT UP AARON
              \_ heheh..  foolish, arrogant mortal.
1998/9/4-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:14543 Activity:low 52%like:14892
9/3  PA III (full time career position) opening in EECS Instructional &
     Electronics Support.
     or /csua/pub/jobs/EECS-Inst-PAIII   --brg
        \_ Noooo... don't do it!
           \_ kind of feels like going on a date with your sister, doesn't it?
                \_ I don't have a sister, but maybe.  It's more like a gilded
                   cage on a slave ship.
1998/9/4-5 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:14544 Activity:high
9/3     HEY!  Where'd gopher go!?!
        \_ It's lying in the corner, badly neglected, barely breathing, and
           left for dead by pretty much everyone.
           \_ Yah, but *THE CSUA* should still have it available.
                (or do i just need to add that corner (which corner?) to
                \_ lynx gopher://
1998/9/4-7 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:14545 Activity:high
9/3  Text mode quake - <DEAD><DEAD>
     See screenshots. This is wrong. Very wrong.       - sagarwal
        \_ What this says is quake is nothing but eye candy with near zero
           game play.  If you can't enjoy it in text, you're not really
           enjoying it, your eyes are.
           \_ That's a very narrow-minded description of enjoyment, don't
              you think? Are my eyes not part of me? So can I say I'm not
              really enjoying the food I eat, my taste buds are?
              \_ But does not the fire also need water?  Does not the
                 mountain need the storm? Does not your scrotum need kicking?
                 -- beavis
              \_ No.  The whole "the graphics suck so the game sucks" line
                 is narrowminded.  "Quake II has the gr00viest grafx so it
                 iz D best gaime d00de!!!11" is the same thing from the
                 other side.  Whats wrong with playing a fun game with a
                 text interface?  If the game sucks without pretty graphics
                 then maybe there was never a game worth playing.  Just pretty
                 \_ I never said graphics made a game. It enhances it,
                    surely, but Quake is definitely a game worth playing,
                    more so than Quake2, which has superior graphics. Heck,
                    Jedi Knight had far inferior graphics than its peers,
                    yet infinitely more satisfactory game experience, single
                    player wise. My point: I agree with you.
                    \_ Honestly: thank you.
                  of them all--netrek.  --PeterM
                  of them all--masturbation.  --PeterM
              \_  All computer games pale in comparison to the best game
                  of them all--masturbation.  --?
                  \_ masturbation pales in comparision to sex.  Oh wait, i
                     forgot this was csua.  Never mind.
                     \_ Ask saarp about that..
1998/9/4-5 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:14546 Activity:nil
9/4     I'm going to school at MIT now and they make you pay to
        connect to the campus network.  Does Berkeley still provide
        free access?  Also can anyone suggest some good ISPs in the
        Cambridge/Boston area?  Thanks.  -emin
        \_ berkeley's is 642-9600.  you need to get an account first at
  (they combined the forms for homeip and
           email) or you could try to telnet to <DEAD><DEAD>.
1998/9/4-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:14547 Activity:low
9/4     For a humourous (and plausible) story of someone giving
        a MS Product Manager hell at Usenix NT, see:
            ~jon/pub/KornVsMS           --jon
        \_ This is great!  Has this been confirmed?
        \_ What's new? We already know that MS people don't have a clue
           about what they're talking about.  It's pretty funny though.
        \_ Not that I am a great fan of MS software but you got to give
           them credit for knowing how to kick the shit out of unix.
                \_ csua should turn off acounts of berkeley alumns who
                   live in Redmond Washington.
                \_ Not really.  Anyone with a Marketing division could do
                   that.  Who speaks for unix?  No one.
                   \_ I am the Lorax, I speak for the BSDs.
1998/9/4-7 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:14548 Activity:moderate
9/4     For those who have both linux and freebsd on their system which
        one do you like better.  i'm running linux with X on a 16mb system
        and it doesn't fair much better than win95 in terms of speed.  I'm
        hoping that freebsd will be much slimmer and have better
        process/memory management.  Is this true?  (Please no 'get win nt
        or more memory.' i can't afford laptop memory and i'm not going to
        pay $80 for a buggy os).
        \_ 16MB is way too little for doing real work under X.  4 is barely
           enough to boot without too much swapping, 8 enough to maybe
           start X without swapping..  X also is NOT "faster" graphically
           than Windoze.  Windoze and MacOS are optimised to be graphical
           environments.  X is optimized to be flexible, portable, and
           useful over a network.  --dbushong
                \_ NT Terminal Server (Hydra) is pretty slick, even on
                   a modem. Faster than emacs + X + modem. :-) -slow
                   \_ Remote X programs over 28.8 using ssh -C actually
                      aren't bad at all.  The compression helps _a lot_.  I
                      used to run netscape this way when I was running X
                      on my Mac IIcx + NetBSD (but then that machine had
                      20MB RAM).  Also check out dxpc (it's in ports), which
                      is supposedly a "differential X protocol compressor"
                \-Hey 16megs would have been great on a sun3+X. As long as it
                is just running X and slip, you can get by with under 4mb.--psb
                   \_ Beware: using a sun3 may distort your sense of "great".
                      \_ Beware: using psb's mom may distort your sense of
                         "great".  --psb's mom's #1 fan
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