07/28   Next politburo meeting scheduled for 6:00PM, Monday August 3rd
        in the 3rd floor lounge.

7/28    Has anyone used linux in any home automation systems. x10/CP290 boxes
        and such? --smitty
        \_ I have a cron job that makes my coffee, adjusts the AC/heat,
           calls the office to tell them I'm working from home again, and
           then walks the dog.
           \_ cron?  who needs cron -- I only use perl
            \_ Larry Wall gave a neat demo of how he uses x10 boxes at his
               home in conjunction with Linux and Perl just a few months back
               at SVLUG.  He said that the x10 protocol was easy to use if
               you could get a home automation control box with a serial
               interface.  I didn't pursue it any further, personally I'm
               more interested in wireless ethernet at home.

7/28    xapmload0.5 -- Freebsd laptop users check it out! I got
        tired of looking for a good X based freebsd battery level monitor, so
        I quickly  hacked xload to look at /dev/apm. The result is xapmload.
        Binary in ~mehlhaff/src, along with source.  If its useful I'll
        release it to the net. -ERic

7/27    Does anyone know why there are two different versions of pgp on
        instructional machines?  There seems to be the version where
        everything is done through the single pgp command and the other
        version that's split up into pgps, pgpe, pgpk, etc..
        \_ PGP 2.6 (as well as 2.3) == pgp
           PGP 5 == pgps, pgpe, pgpk
           \_ where do you get this pgp 5? I thought csua's ftp site was
              supposed to contain the most up-to-date version but they
              only seem to go up to 2.6 (/ftp/pub/cypherpunks/pgp/)
                \_ it's commercialwarez
                   \_ source is still available although many people think
                      PGP is selling out.  Get it from http://www.pgpi.org
                      worldwide, e.g.  cypherpunks FTP is NOT maintained now.
        \_ SWW on the HP's & DEC's is run by the dept. and is stagnant due
                to lack of employees to maintain it.  SWW on the Solaris x86
                machines is maintained by root@cory and is much more up to
                date (making it wildly inconsistent with the other machines).
        \_ Ahh, but I am pushing the sww people to get there stuff more current.
           First on the plate is emacs then a bunch of the gnu utilities. --marc
           \_ Good luck! There simply aren't enough people and PGP sure as hell
              isn't a high priority.  Push all you like.  Into /dev/null.
              Don't waste your time trying to get SWW to do anything, just
              build your own.  -been there, done that

7/29    Our Kerberos logins allow us to connect to and from any computers
        in the cs/eecs domain.  Can you use Kerberos to connect to and
        from other computers (ie. say I wanted to connect to the cs/eecs
        machines from my home computer through home ip.  how do i do that
        with kerberos?)
        \_ Dump kerberos.  Use ssh.
           \_ what are the advantages of kerberos over s(sh/login/cp)?
                \_ not many.  kerberos was around first, but ssh is more
                   useful.  one of the few advantages is kerberos can be
                   used to secure NFS connections, but the EECS/CS dept.
                   doesn't do that.
                        \-often what is more relevant thanthe "advantages
                        and disads" is kerberos is something that needs
                        kind of an institutional buy in, while ssh is much
                        more of a "self-help" product ... a little bit like
                        say AFS vs NFS. --psb
            \_ kerberos doesn't work well across the boundaries of kerberos
               domains.  Like, for example, to/from you home computer.
               ssh does.

7/30    Anyone know if and HTTP-FILE-UPLOAD will be encrypted if you're
        using SSL on the server and the form POSTs to an https URL?
        \_ Watch it with tcpdump and find out.  tcpdump rules.  -- schoen
        \_ it should. HTTP file upload is basically a pretty way of
           including the contents of a file into an HTTP POST query.
           The query *is* the file transmission, so if the query is
           encrypted...
           \_ I like that, making a statement as a question.  "Hey, server,
              did you know that the contents of the file foo are
              050775 117475 152557 033201 042626 110101 003330 133077?"
              "Of course!"