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| 1998/6/30-7/1 [Uncategorized] UID:14271 Activity:nil |
6/29 what statistical packages are available on soda?
\_ ls /usr/ports/math |
| 1998/6/30-7/2 [Computer/SW/Languages/Tcl] UID:14272 Activity:high |
6/30 I want to do some unix GUI programming. What's the difference
between Xlib and Motif windows programming? Is one easier
than the other and is one more commonly used?
\_ Didn't Sun put in millions of $$$ promoting Java???
No one even suggest it?
\_ Motif is cooler looking and the "standard", but non-free, so
most hobbiests stick to Xlib
\_ How about the MIT Athena toolkit?
\_ there's plenty of X toolkits you can use: gtk, Xaw, Xaw3d and
so on. You learn more about X with Xlib . Is this a learning
project or an effert to get working code?
\_ Use tk, it's much easier than either, and runs on Mac/Win as well.
\_ gtk! http://www.gimp.org/gtk http://www.gnome.org -mogul
\_ Is gtk like tk? Does gtk interface to tcl? What are
the benefits of using gtk instead of tcl? I checked teh
gtk FAQ, but apparently these questions are not frequently
asked. Thanks. -emin
\_ yes gtk is just like tk. in fact the 'g' in gtk simply
means 'graphical'.
\_ What do you mean? Tk is a graphical toolkit. How
is gtk different, and what advantages does it have
over tk? I think tk is pretty cool and unless there
is an advantage in using gtk I would rather stick
with a tested, trusted, well-supported package like tk.
--emin
\_ YOU SHOULD USE GTK INSTEAD OF TK BECAUSE GTK IS WAY KEWL
AND IT USES THE GNU PUBLIC LICENSE SO ITS REALLY FREE,
FREE, FREE SOFTWARE THE WAY THAT LINUS AND RMS AND GOD
INTENDED, NOT LIKE TK THAT USES THE EVIL BEREKELEY-STYLE
LICENSE THAT WOULD LET PEOPLE WRITE SOFTWARE IN TCL AND
THEN SELL IT FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!1 FREE FREE FREE
SOFTWARE RULES, DOWN WITH ALL NOT-COMPLETELY-FREE SOFTWARE
CONSPIRACIES. THANK YOU.
\_ YEA! FUK ENE1 THT WANTZ 2 MAIK MUNEY FRUM THEYRE
WERK!!@!!!11
\_ I thought the GPL only requires source release. It
doesn't forbid commercial use, per se. Just that the
bastard capitalist coders can't tolerate having
the public see how bad their code really is.
\_ Xlib is lower-level, and would require more work to get anything
good-looking or useful. If you're the type that would write
something in assembly for performance, then program away in Xlib!
If you want ease of coding, use a toolkit library.
\_ I tried to get an O'Rielly book but I'm not sure which one
to start out with. There's a whole series of X books.
\_ "O'Reilly". (if you can't remember that, just say "ORA") |
| 1998/6/30-7/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:14273 Activity:moderate |
6/30 I think that if someone's thinking (gak) about throwing away
Soda Mk. IV, it would be a worthy end for it if someone were
to get a truck and dispose of it like Mogul and I and someone
else did with that other big huge Sequent full of 286s way
back when; take it to the same dump and beat the bejesus
out of it with the CSUA bat. Seems to me to be a worthy,
dignified end; far better than having it languish somewhere
as a really fancy flowerpot or refrigerator, although putting
it in the office, bolting a fridge into it, and keeping that
stocked with ASUC-supplied beer would be pretty cool. -John
\- I thougt donating it to SRL and letting them smash it with
GIANT ROBOTS was the plan?
\_ yesh yesh! THE HAND O GOD vs The SEQUENT
\_ How long d'ya think that old sequent could stand up to
a continuous barrage from SRL's SODA CANNON of DOOM!
\_ What a poetic end to a former soda. Blasted to bits by
soda cans.
sledgehammer. DOOSH!!
\_ I was going to take it to srl and fill it with explosives
for the show, but the fire department didn't like that idea.
-raytrace
\_ Dignified, maybe, but I'll admit I felt a little foolish when we
failed to make even the slightest dent in the old machine's case,
even with the Mighty CSUA Bat. SEQUENT: BUILT FORD TOUGH. -mogul
\_ Well if I get to haul it away to the junkyard, I will use my
sledgehammer. DOOSH!! -ERic
\_ Can we afford to ship it to Switzerland to let Rev. Solomon run
over it with his tank?
\_ Last I heard, his holiness wasn't going to be getting
his tank after all. |
| 1998/6/30-7/2 [Uncategorized] UID:14274 Activity:low |
6/30 How do you start a newsgroup: ucb.os.microsoft.sucks
\_ http://www.net.berkeley.edu/dcns/usenet/ucbcreate.html but try
"ucb.flame.os.nt" or "ucb.os.nt.critics" or something. |
| 1998/6/30-7/2 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14275 Activity:very high |
6/29 Mulan was great. I should start dating more Asian girls.
\_ You got turned on by a cartoon character???
Man, get a life.
\_ Anyone else noticed Mulan's alarming likeness to caos?
\_ Who's caos? Is she cute?
\_ She's more babe than you can handle!
\_ Is there a picture of her somewhere?
\_ http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~chaos
She is a general manager at OCF.
Bookmark it!! --- Elaine's #1 fan
\_ Oh boy. What kind of (white man's) taste do
you have? She is butt ugly.
\_ You haven't seen her in person,
have you? She is a HOT babe!!!
--- Elaine's #1 fan
\_ you dont seriously think she'd put a good picture
up on he web and attract hordes of drooling
net.geeks and freaks.
\_ Don't bother. She is butt ugly.
\_ http://www.mulan.com
\_ <DEAD>infopad.eecs/~chaotic/images/stav1.gif<DEAD>
\_ Are you caucasian? Because cute Asian girls will only date
non-asians.
\_ They suck cock really well too! White cock only, though,
sorry Chinaboy.
\_ Do asian chicks have a preference over white cocks
to asian ones?
\_ Dude, I don't care if you're white or asian. If you're
eecs major you're freaking butt ugly as hell. That's
just given.
\_ Most Asians girls I've seen that date white guys are
\_ Attractive == good in bed. What else do you date
a woman for? To show off to your friends? Grow up.
butt ugly. Not sure what those guys are thinking.\
\_ Remember, attractive != beautiful
\_ Don't be stupid.
\_ As an Asian who was once concerned about this very problem,
I have to wholedeartedly agree. Caucasians know how to choose
the worst looking ones.
\_ Then again, Asian girls know how to choose the most
butt ugly guys. They're either butt ugly white guys
or Asian frat punks with the same lowered Integras
and unplugged muffler crap.
\_ yeah...caucasians date the fuglist asians. But then
the fine asian chicks usually date fugly caucasians.
Or they are both just plain fugly. I don't think
asian men have much to worry about ... all caucasians
are doing is removing fugliness from the gene pool.
\_ thats cuz caucasians do round robin, doing 1 chic 2 another
\_ thats cuz caucasians are only looking for the best blowjobs
\_ You're only look in Berkeley where all women are ugly.
Go somewhere else and see that all the real babes, both
Asian and others only date white guys.
\_ Dating Asian Girls: the motd topic that WOULD NOT DIE!!!
\_ It has been my experience that I date mostly caucasians because
the large majority of men that approach me are caucasian.
\_ I assume you are female. I also assume you are butt ugly.
\_ She's on CSUA. No assumption necessary.
\_ So that means that all CSUA guys are also butt
ugly?
\_ There IS a reason why the CS labs are in the
lower floors with no windows so outsiders can
look in...
\_ Hahaha...You guys are so funny! But I'd have to disagree with you
I have seen some caucatians with some fine asian chics. Seen them
with Korean, Chinese and Japanese... [formatting corrected]
\_ I think SWF are totally georgous and attractive. AM should consider
alternatives.
\_ If I 'come out' and admit I have white fetish will I
get flamed as much as people w/ asian fetish? (guy)
\_ White isn't a fetish. It's normal. White chicks are
the standard. How can that be a fetish?
\_ You're livin in Hollywood bud. Snap out of it.
\_ If majorities ruled, Asian is clearly the standard;
think of all the Chinese and Indians out there!
\_ It's just as well that the Asian girls are going out with ugly
\_ wrong, cmlee you twink. -tom.
white guys, because that leaves all the HOT ASIAN GUYS for me.
\_ shut up, aspo.
\_ shut up, tom.
\_ there are no HOT ASIAN GUYS. only tiny tipped itty
\_ can't we all just get along? be happy.
bitty committee boys.
\_ Maybe the hot ones don't go out with you because you
are so butt-ugly. I got me some sexy asian ass. |
| 1998/6/30 [Recreation/Dating] UID:14276 Activity:nil |
6/30 I think Asian guys are really sexy. Arians are butt-ugly.
\_ I think small penises are really sexy. Big ones are butt-ugly. |
| 1998/6/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14277 Activity:nil |
6/30 Who wiped out the motd. You know, I think there should be an
motd greatest hits collection somewhere.
\_ alt.motd |
| 1998/6/30-7/2 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:14278 Activity:high |
6/30 Come play a bitchin' 3D internet game. Wulfram wants more
test players! For more info see <DEAD>www.bolt-action.com<DEAD> and
<DEAD>wulfram.gagames.com<DEAD>. Or like send email to jon@bolt-action.com.
\_ When I see it on OGR, I'll think about it.
\_ OGR?
\_ You Will. |
| 1998/6/30-7/2 [Uncategorized] UID:14279 Activity:kinda low |
6/30 Do you have a 4.0 browser and a desire to decapitate kchang?
http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~seano/happy_kchang.html
\_ you got the head and torso mixed up. |