Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1998:June:04 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
1998/6/4-11 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:14171 Activity:nil 66%like:14387
6/3     ssh-1.2.23 installed, bugs to mconst.
1998/6/4-12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:14172 Activity:nil
06/04   Scotch is now running BIND ver. 8.1.2; if you experience name-lookup
        problems from CSUA machines, please e-mail "hostmaster@csua". --brg
1998/6/4-8 [Uncategorized] UID:14173 Activity:kinda low
6/4     Has someone been recompiling MH programs?  I had repl aliased to
        repl -cc all, which used to work, but it doesn't anymore...
        \_ RTFMOTD
        \_ more specifically, read the official motd.  you realise you
           can be taken out and horsewhipped for asking a question that
           was answered there, right?  also, you should be putting stuff
           like that in your .mh_profile, not aliasing it.  -lila
           \_ fuck off - jeph (not the guy who asked in the first place)
                \_ She was obviously just teasing and also provided some
                   useful information.  jeph you're a twink.
                \_ wow, how uptight
1998/6/4-5 [Recreation/Food] UID:14174 Activity:very high
6/4     Why do Americans insist on going to expensive restaurants so that they
        can feel cultured?
        \_ Because when you are an overworked middle-class corporate
          stooge working 50-60 hours a week, having someone else
          cook for you is an "effective time management strategy".
        \_ cuz it doesn't work as well when we go to cheap restaurants.
        \_ maybe that is why US consumes so much yogurt- lots of culture there.
        \_ That's why they need to date Asian female-- to fill in the
           hollow cultureless male shell.
           \_ shut up, achoibot.
        \_ Why do geeks insist on going to cheap greasy franchises
           so that they become fat, unenlightened nerds?
        \_ cuz culture is about being 3L33T!
        \_ What do you mean by expensive?  If you get paid > $25/hour, what
           would be strange about eating at a restaurant which charges
           $20 for a meal?  I admit that as a student it seems insane to
           pay more than $5 for a meal, but when you are working and making
           money things seem different.  Oh yeah, dates tend to be more
           enjoyable if you eat at a nice restaurant as opposed
           to Bongo Burger. -emin
                \_ Why is that?!?! It shouldn't matter unless you're dating
                   someone who's too materialistic anyway.
                   \_ or someone who cares about their digestive tract.
                   \_ I think I was unclear.  _I_ enjoy going on a date more
                      when we eat at a nice restaurant where the food is good,
                      the atmosphere is nice and you can here each other
                      talk, instead of some loud, dirty, smelly
                      hole in the wall.  When I was a student
                      I liked cheap and plentiful restaurants.
                      Speaking of which, any new graduates looking for
                      software development jobs should check out my company
                      at or /csua/pub/jobs/OPC_Tech.  -emin
                   \_ "my pocketbook is bigger than your pocketbook and
                      my top meal expenditure is larger than yours" --chris
                      \_ That's why you married a rich looser.
        \_ are YOU American, emin?
1998/6/4-8 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:14175 Activity:moderate
6/4     Anyone have experience with as web host provider? Good?
        Bad? Comparable alternatives?
        \_ Good.  No comparable alternatives.  -tom
        \_ Best experience i've ever had with a web provider. They
                provide competent and beyond-the-call-of-duty technical
                support, FAQs, etc. -appel
           \_ I'm using it for two of my web sites ( and
     and would definitely recommend it to
              other folks.  Haven't had such a good experience with their
              tech support though.   -genie
           \_ I plan on having several CGI scripts. They list a 1000cgi
              seconds/day. I highly doubt I'll reach that limit, but just
              so I have a reference, what type of program with how many
              uses per day would come close to hitting that quota?
                \_ run your CGI with "time foo.cgi" to see the amount of
                   CPU time it takes.  It's basically a non-issue unless
                   you're grabbing nude pictures out of a database. -tom
                   \_ Though wall-clock time on your system and wall-clock
                      time on their system may be rather different.
                      Is it an issue if you're grabbing pictures of clothed
                      people from a DB? :-)
                      \_ You're not charged for wall-clock time, you're charged
                         for CPU time.  They run boxes very similar to soda,
                         so CPU time here should be comparable.  It is unlikely
                         that you'll get enough hits to matter if you're
                         grabbing pictures of clothed people from a db.  -tom
1998/6/4-5 [Uncategorized] UID:14176 Activity:nil
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