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1998/5/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:14061 Activity:nil 53%like:32165
5/6     what happened to /usr/local/csua/jobs/ ?
        \_ Look two lines up.
1998/5/7-8 [Transportation/Car] UID:14062 Activity:nil
5/6     1984 Honda Accord 5sp HB, 180k mi, needs ~$500 of repairs due to
        an accident (right rear wheel knocked out of alignment, needs
        suspension parts) but otherwise generally reliable, $250/bo.  -phr
1998/5/7 [Uncategorized] UID:14063 Activity:nil
5/6     So is the BBQ still on tomorrow?
1998/5/7 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:14064 Activity:nil
5/6     What is a good online apartment finder?
1998/5/7 [Computer/SW/Languages, Finance/Shopping] UID:14065 Activity:low
5/6     Recommendations for where to buy $50 list price programming books
        cheap? - http://amazon.com? Barnes & Noble? book clubs? -- Thanks!
        \_ That would depend on the title. Check http://www.acses.com
           for a stylish comparison shopping agent for new books (or
           http://www.mxbf.com for used or out of print books)
           \_ Try http://www.books.com  Most of the books there are cheaper
              than both amazon and b&n.
              \_ Except they're part of Cendant Corp... evil, evil company.
        \_ ugh, <DEAD>www.bookpool.com!<DEAD> Where have you people been?
           \_bookpool rules.
1998/5/7-8 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:14066 Activity:low
5/6     Hi, I'm building my own Linux server from scratch. Can someone tell
        me what the approximate performance gain I would get by using two
        SCSI drives (one for kernel/binary/swap, the other one for user only)
        versus two EIDE-4 drives? There is a pretty sizable price gap. THANKS.
        \_ post to ucb.os.linux for access to clueful opinions
        \_ Serving what? With only two drives SCSI will most likely not gain
           enough of a performance advantage to justify the cost, unless you
           get 10000 rpm Ultra drives on a fast SCSI card or something. That
           said, I always buy SCSI for the flexibility it affords. EIDE
           is an icky PC hack. -dim
                \_ RAID!  (And yes EIDE is an icky hack but its ok for home)
           \_ I'm serving a heavy load web server (10000 hits per day) with
                                                        \_ that is NOT a heavy
                                                           load - that's less
                                                           than 1/second - a
                                                           286 can serve that
                                                           web load (might
                                                           need a 486 for the
                                                           cgi load)
              heavy CGI-scripting and Postgres. APPROXIMATELY what is the
              ball park performance gain I would get from SCSI vs. EIDE? THANKS
              \_ That's going to depend on which drives you are comparing,
                 which will matter much more than SCSI vs. EIDE. --dim
                \_ DUUUDE!  SEAGATE ELITE 23!!!  23 GIGS OF PURE P0WER!!!
        \_ Since SCSI can be better pipelined much easier, and does not
           load the CPU when accessing data, it is probably much more
           effective for a server machine.  For personal use, where
           most of the time you are only doing one thing at a time,
           it doesn't make a difference.
           \_ though if you want to multi boot, EIDE has really fucking
              annoying limits on what cylinders it can boot from.  just pay
              for the scsi.  you'll be happier
                \_ DUUUDE! I MULTIBOOT WIN95, WIN98 BETA, WINNT 351, WINNT4
                WORKSTATION, NT4 SERVER, OS2/ WARP, OS2 MERLIN, MSDOS 6.2,
                NT5 BETA1 SERVER AND WORKSTATION, BEOS, LINUX, FREEBSD,
                SOLARIS X86, RHAPSODY BETA 0, CMS, CVS, VMS, AND THE S000PER
                SECRET PENTAGON CREATED ULTIMAX OS!!!!!  DUUUDE!!!! I USE
                EIDE!!!! IT REWLZ!!!!!
                \_ D00D!!1  You forgot the super-secret beta of PhotoshopOS --
                   Coming soon!  -- kahogan
                   \_ D00EWDE!@!! IT WAS S0 SECRET I DIDNT WANNA BE KILLED FOR
                      SAYING IT EXISTED!@!!! BUT I INSTALLED THAT FIRST!
1998/5/7 [Academia/Berkeley, Academia/StanfUrd] UID:14067 Activity:high 66%like:14047
5/6     Who won the College Jeopardy?
        \_ watch next week and find out
        \_ Is it true that Jeopardy contestants get all the questions and
           answers (or just categories) beforehand, in the form of a huge
           book, much like those 5000 SAT Vocabulary Words books?
                \_ More or less, YES. They tell you the category, some
                   specific fields to study, etc. Think of the movie
                   "The Game Show" but they give you  A LOT of answers.
            \_  I was on College Jeopardy from Berkeley back in 1993 and I
                can tell you that you are totally wrong!  They NEVER gave
                us the categories before we walked up to those leturns and
                started taping.  They did tell us in the interviews that
                we might want to study "college oriented areas" like pop
                music, colleges, films, and current events.  But they
                never told us, "You will need to study Black history and
                Architecture and British Lit."  In all fairness though, I
                was a chem major then and I did get a Chem Lab category.
                                                        --thomjeff
        \_  The guy from Harvey Mudd wins it.  Beats U of Alabama and MIT.
                \_ Mudd geeks rewl.  -tom
            Gotta wtch tomorrow to see the Stanford chick get booed and
            razzed by the audience.  Alex had to plead for the audience
            to let up on her.  Beautiful.
            \_ Beautiful?  Try childish.
             \_ Childish? Try GET A SENSE OF HUMOR YOU BRAINDEAD GEEK! It's
                people like you who ought to have termites unleashed into
                your rectum to eat up all the sticks that are stuck up there
                your (collective) rectum to eat up all the sticks that
                have gotten STUCK UP YOUR ASS
                \_ That's funny!
1998/5/7-8 [Politics/Domestic] UID:14068 Activity:high
5/7     FORBIDDEN CITY COP - UC Theater - 9pm - go see it
        \_ Low budget Asian, low budget American or something else?
                \_ low budget Asian movie in low budget American theatre.
           \_ Ya, they should learn to make big budget movies like
              Waterworld and the Postman.
              \_ Why did you take my comment as editorial?  I was simply
                 asking for a factual non-editorial description.
              \_ Actually, the lesson here is don't allow Kevin Costner
                 to make movies.
                 \_ To think... he was the first choice to be President
                    in Air Force One. *shudder*
              \_ Or Titanic
              \_ totally hilarious HK movie.  don't miss it.
1998/5/7-8 [Uncategorized] UID:14069 Activity:nil
5/7     Project documentation - are IEEE standards a good fit or
        are there more compact/less onerous standards? Looking for
        example formats on the Web didn't yield any results.
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