Berkeley CSUA MOTD:1998:March:04 Wednesday <Tuesday, Thursday>
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1998/3/4 [Politics/Domestic] UID:13753 Activity:moderate
3/3     Recent MSNBC headline: "American Beats Out Kwan"
        *sigh*
        \_ Ya, so?  You expected better from Gatesnbc news?
        \_ not how I would have worded it, but it's hardly inaccurate
        \_ Not how I would have put it, but is this inaccurate?
           And stop censoring me, arselick.
1998/3/4 [Computer/Rants] UID:13754 Activity:nil
3/3     For those who said Jim Barksdale "admitted to being a Bill Gates
        admirer", read CNET's homepage today. The main headline is:
        "Gates gets grilled by Senate, Jim Barksdale and Scott McNealy."
1998/3/4 [Uncategorized] UID:13755 Activity:nil
3/3     [All Jim Barksdale crap removed]
1998/3/4 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:13756 Activity:nil 57%like:13758
3/3     Intel is cool in my book now. They adopted StrongARM.
        Well, Merced looks pretty good too.     -muchandr
        \_ And you told me not to work there ;) -emarkp
1998/3/4 [Recreation/Food/Alcohol] UID:13757 Activity:nil
3/4     Support the smoking ban!
          The smoking ban is an unreasonable peice of legislation. It
          is a ban. That means that there are no exceptions no matter
          what. The next step is to ban smoking in any room containing
          more than ten people where alcohol is served because that is
          just like a bar. Even if it is your home or workplace.-nesim
          \_ The ban does have exceptions: namely when the bar is operated
             entirely by the owners.  If you want to die from second-hand
             smoke, you're free to do so.  You're not allowed to have working
             conditions that force your employees to do the same.
          \_ sounds sensible. you're not one of those nasty smokers, by
             chance?
         \_ the difference between alcohol and smoking is smoking affect
            other people, where as alcohol doesn't.
                \_ How many drunk drivers kill people every year?
        \_ I am sick and tired of people smoke in public areas. If I
           died of 2nd hand smoking, I will come back as a ghost and
           take a fucking smoker with me.
                \_ Just one?
        \_ Bars aren't public places. Even without smoking they are pretty
           bad for your health.
1998/3/4 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:13758 Activity:nil 57%like:13756
3/3     Intel is cool in my book now. They adopted StrongARM.
        \_ they're killing StorngARM, by jacking up licensing or somesuch,
           I hear.
        Well, Merced looks pretty good too.     -muchandr
        \_ And you told me not to work there ;) -emarkp
        \_ I am not saying it is a good place to work. They are cool
        for finally recognizing that x86 must die.      -muchandr
        \_ I think they've been aware the x86 needed to die a long time ago
           but market forces prevailed over technology choices.  You can't
           just up and change your basic cpu architecture over night and
           expect everyone will just recompile their OS, apps, reinstall,
           buy new chips, all new whatever, etc, etc, just because you made
           a poor long term architectural decision as a company 15+ years
           earlier.
           \_  Apple, PowerPC.  Whatever you think of the platform, the
               transition itself was comfortable and smooth (simile
               self-censored)  -pld
                \_ Much like when I make love. -anonymous
                \_ It was reasonably smooth.  There are still problems running
                   old software on the new platform.  It wasn't perfect.  That
                   means lost money to some companies (customers) who would
                   see the hassle but not the benefit (I don't entirely agree
                   with this attitude but its the way things are).  Thus,
                   squeezing every last drop out of the x86 was a better move
                   for Intel than trying to switch to something else (what?)
                   and do emulation/translation.  Maybe the merced or whatever
                   will be the cool next step and whatever comes after won't
                   do x86 at all.  But given the incredibly deep level of
                   x86 entrenchment, I doubt you'll see an x86 free world in
                   less than 10 to 15 years.  The current line of chips from
                   the 486 to P][ are powerful enough for what the bulk of
                   business users need a computer for.  They're not going to
                   switch and upgrade everything just because a new version
                   of something is out there.  That costs money.
1998/3/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:13761 Activity:very high 80%like:13983 80%like:14293
03/04   motd nuked
        \_ Awaiting the fallout...
        \_ Cool! - #1 Motd Anti-Fan
                \_ If you were with it, you know that you can't combine
                   fandom, a positive, with anti-anything, a negative.
                   \_ This makes absolutely no logical sense.
                        \_ Obviously you're not with it.  End of story.
        \_ Bastard [...]
                \_ try again. --#2 psb fan
                        \_ aw, I missed it.  What'd he say?  -psb #1 Fan
                                \-yeah, what did i say? --OTPSB
        \_ Bastard motherfucker smallminded bastard censor fascist pig.  When
           the brownshirted dictator oppressors come to your house to round
           _you_ up and take you to the death camp for daring to think thoughts
           that _they_ found unacceptable, don't expect me to cry for you,
           bastard.  Rather, I'll spit on your cold, unmarked grave.
           Remember that the long slow slide toward complete erosion of our
           personal freedom of expression started right here, right now, today
           with the smallminded censors of the glorious soda wall.
           \_ i.e. you suck?
1998/3/4 [Politics/Domestic/California, Recreation/Dating] UID:49812 Activity:nil
3/4     Can someone post the age of consent again? Thanks. I remember
        Hawaii is 14, California is 18, what else?
        Age of Consent Laws in the United States
        ----------------------------------------
          Age 14:  Hawaii, Pennsylvania
              15:  Colorado, South Carolina
              16:  Alabama, Connecticut, Deleware, District of Columbia,
                   Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine,
                   Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana,
                   Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North
                   Carolina, Ohio, Rhode Island, South Dakata, Utah, Vermont,
                   Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming
              17:  Louisiana, Missouri, New Mexico, New York, Texas
              18:  Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, Calif., Florida, Idaho,
                   Illinois, Mississippi, North Dakata, Oklahoma, Oregon,
                   Tennessee, Virginia, Wisconsin
                I suggest checking out Hawaii :)
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